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Hi Ken

Something I observed recently may or may not be of assistance here.

As Liam is totally non oral I am in no way an expert

We had an RSS family from America stay with us recently there 6 yr

old son(RSS) is probably very similar to your son, and my 8 yr old

non RSS son Cameron is a very picky eater as well,but, while they

where all together(We had 4 altogether sitting round the table)both

these kids ate alot more than usual.

We think because they where all chatting and watching what each

other was up to and eating.

When look at our normal mealtime Cameron is either by himself or

Liam is there annoying and not having to eat or Damian and I are

nagging him to finish his dinner and compare it to having other kids

chatting all getting on with it, i dont even think they thought

about eating.

If i could provide that enviroment every night I would, but it has

made me try and reduce the stress at the table.

All this and Cam isnt rss, but we did notice our RSS friend ate more

too.

Just a thought

Jody

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I need some advice.

>

> For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8 year

> old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats

several

> recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn. Once

> in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

>

> So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky eater

> to eat differnt kinds of food.

>

> We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV or

> have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

>

> How have you done this?

>

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Ken M

> :)

>

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Ken,

Unfortunately, I don't think this is just a RSS issue. My non-RSS

son is extremely picky & stubborn. He won't try anything new, even

if I am positive he would like it!

Kim C.

Subject: Different Foods

Hi everyone,

I need some advice.

For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8 year

old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats several

recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn. Once

in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky eater

to eat differnt kinds of food.

We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV or

have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

How have you done this?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Ken M

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Hi Jody,

Once in a whhile, when is in a group setting, he will eat

more but he won't try anything new.

I think what I am going to have to do is let him get really hungry,

then offer only a new food. I know for me, when I am starving, any

food tastes great.

We shall see how this works.

Ken M

:)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I need some advice.

> >

> > For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8

year

> > old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats

> several

> > recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn.

Once

> > in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

> >

> > So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky

eater

> > to eat differnt kinds of food.

> >

> > We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV

or

> > have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

> >

> > How have you done this?

> >

> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ken M

> > :)

> >

>

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Today Liam wanted steak, I was making hamburgers, so I cut a few pecies,like I

would steak and he ate it! Said he liked it too...

When said later " Do you want more hamburger? " he said " I don't like

hamburger " ...

A lot of it with Liam is the thought of the food....

R

Mom to Jed (13) Asthma, tics, CAPD

Liam (5) Asthma, Epilepsy, Hearing impaired,

SGA, Hypothyriod, Sensory Issues, Food Allergies.

Orlando Fl

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ken,

i have to aggree my 3 year old is way mort picky than jacob rss/sga. he (my

three year old ) won't eat cheese and a whole host of other things. but with

jacob who is 9 when he not having a good eating day we have lots to offer his be

loves the cearel bars cherry apple you know. he loves yogurt best when in a tube

or shake form. always have ice crean better in cones. snack mixes you know like

chexs. trail mix. things like that.

cara mom to jacob

kimc wrote:

Ken,

Unfortunately, I don't think this is just a RSS issue. My non-RSS

son is extremely picky & stubborn. He won't try anything new, even

if I am positive he would like it!

Kim C.

Subject: Different Foods

Hi everyone,

I need some advice.

For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8 year

old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats several

recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn. Once

in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky eater

to eat differnt kinds of food.

We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV or

have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

How have you done this?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Ken M

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hey jody!!

christopher is the same way!! every type of beef we make we tell

him it is steak!!

jodie c

>

> Today Liam wanted steak, I was making hamburgers, so I cut a few

pecies,like I would steak and he ate it! Said he liked it too...

> When said later " Do you want more hamburger? " he said " I

don't like hamburger " ...

> A lot of it with Liam is the thought of the food....

>

> R

> Mom to Jed (13) Asthma, tics, CAPD

> Liam (5) Asthma, Epilepsy, Hearing impaired,

> SGA, Hypothyriod, Sensory Issues, Food Allergies.

> Orlando Fl

>

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> Ken,

>

> Unfortunately, I don't think this is just a RSS issue. My non-RSS

> son is extremely picky & stubborn. He won't try anything new, even

> if I am positive he would like it!

>

> Kim C.

Whenever I read something like this, I think of children in countries

where there are only a few choices of foods. So, like it or lump it,

you eat it or starve. You learn to like it.

Unless your child has an eating disorder (and RSS children definitely

do), I would put food in front of a child that I had prepared for the

day and he/she either eats it or goes hungry until the next mealtime.

There will always be foods that some people dislike: spinach, beets,

liver, rhutabega, peas, oysters . . . those are obvious ones. They

are strong flavored or have strange textures. So, I wouldn't make a

fuss if a child doesn't eat a particular food on his plate.

But we do our children a disservice when we allow them to control what

is, or is not, eaten at a meal. Or what you will prepare. Or that

you will prepare multiple meals to satisfy the cravings of one child.

Or that you will narrow down the choice of foods cooked to satisfy a

picky eater.

Trust me. Your child will not starve. As soon as he figures out you

are determined and committed to cooking a meal that is well balanced

for the entire family - no ifs, ands, or buts - eating meals will

become less a vehicle for who's in charge and more at nutritional

soundness.

And this is really simple to enforce. No scenes. No tantrums. You

prepare a plate. You place it in front of the child. In a reasonable

amount of time you take away the plate. You can save it for the next

mealtime (which may be between lunch and dinner), or toss it. No

words are spoken. It just " is " what it " is " . The only thing I'd add:

If snack time is sugar time, then they definitely get the meal again.

No cookies, crackers, or other goodies in between healthy meals if

healthy meals aren't eaten.

You'd be amazed how quickly the message gets across.

Dianne

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Hi Ken...i have an 8 yr old Rss son called . He eats the same things day

after day and has done since he was a baby. I cannot get him to try any new

stuff at all no matter what i bribe him with, who he eats with or what different

things i offer him. will not even try a different brand of the same type

of porridge that he eats. Fortunately eats alot of what he likes so he

has never needed to be tube fed but this is a huge problem for us which we dont

know how to resolve. If ate a hot dog or a pizza i would sing and dance

and shout it from the rooftops. eats baby porridge, bananas, yogurt and

pringles. (And various types of crisps and biscuits) Nothing else although he

drinks alot of chocolate soya milk. All i can say is that as long as he keeps

eating what he is eating, i now try not to worry. I realise this mail is no help

at all to you, but if nothing else you know there are others having the same

problems. We will keep trying and will let you know

if we have any joy. In the meantime if does eat a hotdog i have promised

him a spaceship, so its probably best if he doesnt try one just yet. Must try to

keep my bribes under control. Good luck.xxx

Liz.K. mum to Jessie 10, 8 (rss) and a very large bump due in 2 weeks.

kmerrith wrote:

Hi Jody,

Once in a whhile, when is in a group setting, he will eat

more but he won't try anything new.

I think what I am going to have to do is let him get really hungry,

then offer only a new food. I know for me, when I am starving, any

food tastes great.

We shall see how this works.

Ken M

:)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I need some advice.

> >

> > For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8

year

> > old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats

> several

> > recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn.

Once

> > in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

> >

> > So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky

eater

> > to eat differnt kinds of food.

> >

> > We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV

or

> > have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

> >

> > How have you done this?

> >

> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ken M

> > :)

> >

>

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<< will not even try a different brand of the same type of porridge that

he eats.>>

Liam is the same way... he can tell if the brand is different..

the only thing he will except different brands on is pudding, as long as it is

vanillia and the non refridgearated tye he is okay.Anything else has to be the

same as the first one he ever had....

R

Mom to Jed (13) Asthma, tics, CAPD

Liam (5) Asthma, Epilepsy, Hearing impaired,

SGA, Hypothyriod, Sensory Issues, Food Allergies.

Orlando Fl

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Ken,

We have eight year old twins and Abby is RSS. We have the same

problems with her. Maybe I'm imagining things, but I think it's a

texture problem. There are days when she can gulp down a bowl of

macaroni and cheese in a matter of minutes and other days when she

takes one little piece in her mouth and chews for " hours " . My

husband thinks she is being stubborn, but after having observed her

all this time, it seems to me there are days when she is more

comfortable eating than others.

Abby hates to try anything new either. I finally went against every

grain in my body and started playing games with her food. I read

somewhere about taking fishsticks and making a little " river " of

squeeze cheese on it and putting goldfish on the top. Amazingly

enough, that worked. Even though she may not be hungry, her

imagination keeps her interested in eating it. Of course, that's

just until the next time when she turns her nose up again. I wait a

couple of months and then she's fascinated again.

I laugh at myself going through the grocery store as I'm doing my

best to lose weight, but looking for the most fattening foods I can

find for her. We buy squeeze butter and put it on whatever she

wants. Yesterday I made her angel hair pasta and she wanted ketchup

on top! Yuck! But I put it on and was surprised that she ate it.

Abby's favorite snack is ritz crackers dipped in mayonaise. It

sounds disgusting to me and I think our family thinks we're crazy

when she spends the night with them, but anything to get her to eat.

She also loves deviled ham on ritz crackers.

Sherri D. - Mom to (almost - Feb 17) 8 year old twins - Abby (RSS),

Sam (nonRSS)

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I need some advice.

>

> For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8 year

> old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats

several

> recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn. Once

> in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

>

> So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky eater

> to eat differnt kinds of food.

>

> We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV or

> have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

>

> How have you done this?

>

> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks

>

> Ken M

> :)

>

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Hi Sherri,

Thanks for the info.

I think part of 's problem is texture related, he likes soft

textured foods, but that doesn't explain why he likes potato chips or

Oreo's

Ken M

:)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I need some advice.

> >

> > For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8 year

> > old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats

> several

> > recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn. Once

> > in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

> >

> > So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky eater

> > to eat differnt kinds of food.

> >

> > We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV or

> > have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

> >

> > How have you done this?

> >

> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ken M

> > :)

> >

>

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>

> Hi,

>

> While I wish I could follow that, Emerence will not eat certain

> foods/textures. And like many I cannot take away food that will

> keep her blood sugar up even if I do have to make her something

> different. And she is an eater too so I am lucky.

I specifically said that RSS children have particular problems. I

quote: " Unless your child has an eating disorder (and RSS children

definitely do), "

went on to say:

> Poor kids in other countries are different than our kids. They are

> famished and keenly feel hunger while ours could just turn up their

> noses and not know the difference.

That is simply not always true. Many country's diets are just quite

limited in comparison to ours. That is what I was referring to, and I

made that quite clear. (Or so I thought). I was not talking about

hunger or famished children. That is a different issue entirely.

Still, it is interesting, as long as you've brought it up, that you

won't find finicky eaters amongst the hungry. They love whatever they

get.

We do our " normal " children no favors when we allow them to dictate

mealtimes. They grow up to be extremely fussy eaters with narrow

diets that often are not nutritionally sound.

The mother of one of my piano students is a nutritionist/dietician and

we used to have quite the conversations about modern mothers and how

they fuss over their children's diets. Although, to a point, that's

often been true in the past, it was much more so today.

Of course treats are something to get excited about when they are

unavailable in a region of the world for whatever reason, be that

poverty or limited resources. In fact, our own children would do much

better if treats were more limited and not used as a reward for good

behavior.

RSS children have different problems, and I'm not speaking to that

issue at all.

Dianne - Ian's grandmother

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Hi Ken... definately has a problem with texture. He will eat very smooth

things like yogurt or baby porridge... or very crunchy things like pringles and

biscuits... he wont eat anything in between. The only exception is bananas which

i cant explain. Trying different textures always makes him gag so we always try

him with similar textured things. Sooner or later we will find something he

likes i hope. Liz.K

kmerrith kkm@...> wrote:

Hi Sherri,

Thanks for the info.

I think part of 's problem is texture related, he likes soft

textured foods, but that doesn't explain why he likes potato chips or

Oreo's

Ken M

:)

> >

> > Hi everyone,

> >

> > I need some advice.

> >

> > For some time now we have been trying to get (my 8 year

> > old son) to eat a larger variety of foods. Presently he eats

> several

> > recipes that are all pasta, hotdogs, peas, pizza and corn. Once

> > in a while he will have a little milk and or a yogurt.

> >

> > So how do you get an rss child who is a really really picky eater

> > to eat differnt kinds of food.

> >

> > We have tried rewards (if you eat this then you can watch TV or

> > have cake etc.) So far nothing has worked.

> >

> > How have you done this?

> >

> > Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Ken M

> > :)

> >

>

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