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Could you do something like this girl: 'I take my oxygen tank swimming' Just a thought, Erna

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Subject: ambivalenceTo: Breathe-support Date: Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:33 PM

My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants a signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit....if I tell my doctor I do the exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok...nor will my pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when doing even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing intense cariac exercises... .The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had a fit when I told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water so much! I just absolutely love it...but I hae to tell my docs that I am not using oxygen in case something happens. I just don't know what to do. I can take another instructors class and not say anything to her...but I really like my present instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

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Joyce Rudy

Why do you do them without oxygen? You can find a way to take oxygen.

Are your sats dropping below 90% as you do them? If so, its unwise. If

they're staying above 90% then ok, but for some reason I suspect they

aren't.

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> My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants

a

> signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit....if I tell my doctor I

do the

> exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok...nor

will my

> pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when

doing

> even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing

intense

> cariac exercises....The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had

a fit

> when I told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water

so

> much! I just absolutely love it...but I hae to tell my docs that I am

not

> using oxygen in case something happens. I just don't know what to do.

I can

> take another instructors class and not say anything to her...but I

really

> like my present instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

>

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Joyce,

Honestly my friend there are times I just want to shake you! LOL Remember a few weeks ago how short of breath and sick you felt when carrying something and climbing stairs? That's why you need to use the oxygen when you are exercising.

Your lungs are damaged. You need supplemental O2 in order for your lungs to be able to supply adequate oxygen to your body. The only person you are hurting by pretending this is not true is yourself.

If you need oxygen at all you need it most when you are exercising. I go to the gym and take an exercise class 5 days a week using my oxygen. Two days a week I take a pool exercise class and do so with my oxygen. I put a 50 foot tubing on my tank and do everything that everyone else can do. Sometimes I'm the only one with oxygen and sometimes there are 3 or 4 of us.

Considering all the other things you've been through and all the other adjustments you've made this is just one more. Don't hurt yourself by pretending you don't need oxygen. We all love you and want you around here with us!

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-support Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:33:39 AMSubject: ambivalence

My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants a signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit....if I tell my doctor I do the exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok...nor will my pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when doing even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing intense cariac exercises... .The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had a fit when I told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water so much! I just absolutely love it...but I hae to tell my docs that I am not using oxygen in case something happens. I just don't know what to do. I can take another instructors class and not say anything to her...but I really like my present instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

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Joyce, I love to swim too and would love to do it again. At the rehab they have a pool for other rehab patients I guess and every time I go past the area I want to go there instead. How can you swim and use oxygen, that's what I want to know?To: Breathe-support Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:33:39 AMSubject: ambivalence

My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants a signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit....if I tell my doctor I do the exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok....nor will my pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when doing even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing intense cariac exercises... .The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had a fit when I told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water so much! I just absolutely love it...but I hae to tell my docs that I am not using oxygen in case something happens. I just don't know what to do. I can take another instructors class and not say anything to her...but I really like my present instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

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I am in the pool twice a week. I participate in a water exercise class using my oxygen and then when that's over I usually move over to one of the lanes and swim for 15 or 20 minutes. I put my tank next to the pool and have a 50 legnth of tubing attached. Using that I can swim back and forth in the lane. It took some getting used to, learning how not to get tangled up in the tubing and keeping the cannula in place while swimming but it's all working fine for me now.

Like you I love the water and I love to swim. It's so nice to have access to a pool and be able to get in there a couple of times a week!

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:51:21 AMSubject: Re: ambivalence

Joyce, I love to swim too and would love to do it again. At the rehab they have a pool for other rehab patients I guess and every time I go past the area I want to go there instead. How can you swim and use oxygen, that's what I want to know?

From: "BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com" <BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com>To: Breathe-support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:33:39 AMSubject: ambivalence

My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants a signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit....if I tell my doctor I do the exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok....nor will my pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when doing even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing intense cariac exercises... .The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had a fit when I told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water so much! I just absolutely love it...but I hae to tell my docs that I am not using oxygen in case something happens. I just don't know what to do. I can take another instructors class and not say anything to her...but I really like my present instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

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thanks Beth. I'll have to look into that. I have thought of asking but thought it couldn't be possible.To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:57:55 AMSubject: Re: ambivalence

,

I am in the pool twice a week. I participate in a water exercise class using my oxygen and then when that's over I usually move over to one of the lanes and swim for 15 or 20 minutes. I put my tank next to the pool and have a 50 legnth of tubing attached. Using that I can swim back and forth in the lane. It took some getting used to, learning how not to get tangled up in the tubing and keeping the cannula in place while swimming but it's all working fine for me now.

Like you I love the water and I love to swim. It's so nice to have access to a pool and be able to get in there a couple of times a week!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Terry Oettinger <iltopaint (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, January 15, 2010 7:51:21 AMSubject: Re: ambivalence

Joyce, I love to swim too and would love to do it again. At the rehab they have a pool for other rehab patients I guess and every time I go past the area I want to go there instead. How can you swim and use oxygen, that's what I want to know?

From: "BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com" <BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com>To: Breathe-support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:33:39 AMSubject: ambivalence

My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants a signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit....if I tell my doctor I do the exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok....nor will my pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when doing even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing intense cariac exercises... .The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had a fit when I told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water so much! I just absolutely love it....but I hae to tell my docs that I am not using oxygen in case something happens. I just don't know what to do. I can take another instructors class and not say anything to her...but I really like my present instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

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Beth- I asked the instructor if I could use a long tube and she said no, it would interfer with the other students. They w9ouldn't be able to pass me by and would get intangled with it..that is why I ahve been doing it without oxygen. My 02 is at the side of the pool an dwhen I feel I need it I just swim over and use it for a few minutes...but none of my doctors will ok that and and the staff at my medically supervised exercise had a fit when I told them that! I guess my swimming days are over...that makes me so sad...I love it so. We don'thave a rehab facility with a pool or even a rehap facility. so sad....but you are right. I can't even climb stairs and hold things well...I'm going to kill myself in the pool but I just can't seem to give it up! It is so hard for me. Joyce R AZ birds

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No they drop significantly below 90...if I wallk without 02 from the sofa to the kitchen my stats drop into th elow 80's...and I just can't grasp why. I know my lungs are not good but psychologically I feel so good! It's just so hard for me...my mind wants to be active and run around and my body doesn't like it. It is so frustrating! it is so frustrating and it confuses me...Joyce r AZ birds

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We have members who do swim and use oxygen. Rehab facilities should be able to

assist you. In most you'll have to bring your own oxygen but that can be done.

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> Joyce, I love to swim too and would love to do it again. At the rehab they

have a pool for other rehab patients I guess and every time I go past the area I

want to go there instead. How can you swim and use oxygen, that's what I want

to know?

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> To: Breathe-support

> Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:33:39 AM

> Subject: ambivalence

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> My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants a

> signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit.....if I tell my doctor I do the

> exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok...nor will my

> pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when doing

> even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing intense

cariac

> exercises... .The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had a fit when I

> told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water so much! I just

> absolutely love it...but I hae to tell my docs that I am not using oxygen in

> case something happens. I just don't know what to do. I can take another

> instructors class and not say anything to her...but I really like my present

> instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

>

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mary beth

when i read rudy joyce's post i started to respond,

but deleted it

i was yelling at her in writing

glad you said you wanted to shake her

i remember figuring out how to swim with long tubes attached to the o2

and you just said the same thing

i go in the water without o2, but limit what i do

no more swimming, just standing in shallow end and walking slowly

Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: ambivalenceTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 7:48 AM

Joyce,

Honestly my friend there are times I just want to shake you! LOL Remember a few weeks ago how short of breath and sick you felt when carrying something and climbing stairs? That's why you need to use the oxygen when you are exercising.

Your lungs are damaged. You need supplemental O2 in order for your lungs to be able to supply adequate oxygen to your body. The only person you are hurting by pretending this is not true is yourself.

If you need oxygen at all you need it most when you are exercising. I go to the gym and take an exercise class 5 days a week using my oxygen. Two days a week I take a pool exercise class and do so with my oxygen. I put a 50 foot tubing on my tank and do everything that everyone else can do. Sometimes I'm the only one with oxygen and sometimes there are 3 or 4 of us.

Considering all the other things you've been through and all the other adjustments you've made this is just one more. Don't hurt yourself by pretending you don't need oxygen. We all love you and want you around here with us!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: "BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com" <BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com>To: Breathe-support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:33:39 AMSubject: ambivalence

My doc has cleared me for exercise but now my aquafit instructor wants a signed note that says I am ok to do aquafit....if I tell my doctor I do the exercises without oxygen she won't sign a not to give the ok...nor will my pulmodude Dr hodges in Phoenix....they all think I need my oxygen when doing even minimal exercise let alone jumping around a swim pool doing intense cariac exercises... .The people at the Pendleton Center aboslutey had a fit when I told them I was doing that without air! But, UI love the water so much! I just absolutely love it...but I hae to tell my docs that I am not using oxygen in case something happens. I just don't know what to do. I can take another instructors class and not say anything to her...but I really like my present instructor. Joyce Rudy AZ birds

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Well, she says it will disrupt the class if I have a long tube and people would not be able to get around it. it would not work...I don't know if that is a ADA claim ornot.;....but don't want to stop others from enjoying the class! Joyce R AZ birds

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Joyce,

I don't know if your swim instructor can say no to your using oxygen in the pool. Sounds like an ADA claim.

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 10:09:55 AMSubject: Re: ambivalence

Beth- I asked the instructor if I could use a long tube and she said no, it would interfer with the other students. They w9ouldn't be able to pass me by and would get intangled with it..that is why I ahve been doing it without oxygen. My 02 is at the side of the pool an dwhen I feel I need it I just swim over and use it for a few minutes...but none of my doctors will ok that and and the staff at my medically supervised exercise had a fit when I told them that! I guess my swimming days are over...that makes me so sad...I love it so. We don'thave a rehab facility with a pool or even a rehap facility. so sad....but you are right. I can't even climb stairs and hold things well...I'm going to kill myself in the pool but I just can't seem to give it up! It is so hard for me. Joyce R AZ birds

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rudy joyce

maybe you can just hang out at the shallow end of the pool and walk, or float on your back, less strenuous stuff

Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania

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Subject: Re: ambivalenceTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, January 15, 2010, 10:37 PM

Well, she says it will disrupt the class if I have a long tube and people would not be able to get around it. it would not work...I don't know if that is a ADA claim ornot.;....but don't want to stop others from enjoying the class! Joyce R AZ birds

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