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Hello,

I was born with a cleft lip and palate and have had 32 surgeries so far. I had

braces for 5 years when I was younger and had them put back on June last year

in prep for jaw surgery. I had upper jaw surgery, major nose reconstruction,

cheek bone and bone graft surgery. The surgery went well and the results are

amazing I look so much better now and have a smile that I like. if I had to do

the surgery again I would without a doubt,

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Hi yes i got the messages,

Do you know where i could get this book, " How to Survive

Orthognathic Surgery e-Book " . it a little $$$$ on the site and book

stores?

> >

> > Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had trrouble with my

moth

> > and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had braces and other stuff

for

> > about 13 years and i'm still not happy with the out come, so i

> > went to a new othro and he told me that my jaws need to be

> > relocated. But even that may not work bc i can't breath out of

my

> > noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i did.

> >

> > They want to have surgery on my noise t open my air ways so

i

> > would breath and maybe my tounge will do the normal thing

and

> > stop pushing my teeth forward.

> >

> > But to have it all fixed i would need to have the sugery on my

> > jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet but i wanted to

know

> > whow the surgery was and how long and bad was the

recovery?

> >

> > I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about 4 years ago

and

> > they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun. I did have much

pain

> > but i had a lot of swelling and it took a long time to go away

about

> > a year i guess it was.

> >

> > i could use some insice as to how it went for you and would

you

> > do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

> >

>

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Hi Truby,

I am having much the same situation as you are. I am still preop

though. I will have upper and lower jaw surgery and lower nose

septum repair during the first surgery, and a second upper nose

reconstruction at a later date. It is a long process, but not as

long as the 13 years you have already gone through. Right now, they

are moving my straight teeth out of position. At least out of

position for my current jaw location. Once that is done (I am

hoping for about 18 months in braces preop), I will have the jaw and

lower nose surgery, and the second nose surgery I am thinking will

be in about 6 months (I hope). There are lots of posts on the board

about recovery and outcomes, and lots of pictures in the photo

gallery, and reviewing these will help you get a better idea of the

process this type of surgery encompasses. I spent about a month

looking at daily posts before I even began posting!! lol It just

helped me better understand what I would be dealing with, and helped

me make my decision about what I wanted to do.

I am sure some post op vets will post to you also. But take some

time and go through a few weeks of past posts and you will get a

feel for the types of issues and concerns people who are just post

op, a few months post op and those who are mostly through the entire

process post op are having. It really helps, and you can do that

while you are waiting for replies.

Good luck with your research!

Hugs,

Fran

>

> Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had trrouble with my moth

> and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had braces and other stuff

for

> about 13 years and i'm still not happy with the out come, so i

> went to a new othro and he told me that my jaws need to be

> relocated. But even that may not work bc i can't breath out of my

> noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i did.

>

> They want to have surgery on my noise t open my air ways so i

> would breath and maybe my tounge will do the normal thing and

> stop pushing my teeth forward.

>

> But to have it all fixed i would need to have the sugery on my

> jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet but i wanted to know

> whow the surgery was and how long and bad was the recovery?

>

> I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about 4 years ago and

> they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun. I did have much pain

> but i had a lot of swelling and it took a long time to go away

about

> a year i guess it was.

>

> i could use some insice as to how it went for you and would you

> do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

>

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Hi Fran,

Thanks for the help. i know i still have a long road ahead and alot

of questions to find aswers too but i hope i will be able to find my

way.

have your heard of the book to help you know what going on and

how to deal?

thnaks Tiff

-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " fran "

<franesmith2000@y...> wrote:

>

> Hi Truby,

> I am having much the same situation as you are. I am still

preop

> though. I will have upper and lower jaw surgery and lower nose

> septum repair during the first surgery, and a second upper

nose

> reconstruction at a later date. It is a long process, but not as

> long as the 13 years you have already gone through. Right

now, they

> are moving my straight teeth out of position. At least out of

> position for my current jaw location. Once that is done (I am

> hoping for about 18 months in braces preop), I will have the

jaw and

> lower nose surgery, and the second nose surgery I am

thinking will

> be in about 6 months (I hope). There are lots of posts on the

board

> about recovery and outcomes, and lots of pictures in the photo

> gallery, and reviewing these will help you get a better idea of

the

> process this type of surgery encompasses. I spent about a

month

> looking at daily posts before I even began posting!! lol It just

> helped me better understand what I would be dealing with, and

helped

> me make my decision about what I wanted to do.

>

> I am sure some post op vets will post to you also. But take

some

> time and go through a few weeks of past posts and you will get

a

> feel for the types of issues and concerns people who are just

post

> op, a few months post op and those who are mostly through

the entire

> process post op are having. It really helps, and you can do that

> while you are waiting for replies.

>

> Good luck with your research!

> Hugs,

> Fran

>

>

> >

> > Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had trrouble with my

moth

> > and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had braces and other stuff

> for

> > about 13 years and i'm still not happy with the out come, so i

> > went to a new othro and he told me that my jaws need to be

> > relocated. But even that may not work bc i can't breath out of

my

> > noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i did.

> >

> > They want to have surgery on my noise t open my air ways so

i

> > would breath and maybe my tounge will do the normal thing

and

> > stop pushing my teeth forward.

> >

> > But to have it all fixed i would need to have the sugery on my

> > jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet but i wanted to

know

> > whow the surgery was and how long and bad was the

recovery?

> >

> > I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about 4 years ago

and

> > they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun. I did have much

pain

> > but i had a lot of swelling and it took a long time to go away

> about

> > a year i guess it was.

> >

> > i could use some insice as to how it went for you and would

you

> > do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

> >

>

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Can this person be blocked? They're just hawking a web site.

>

>Reply-To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>To: orthognathicsurgerysupport

>Subject: [Orthognathic Surgery Support ] Re: Need help this with this

>Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:49:20 -0000

>

>Hi,

>

>Im not sure if you got my previous reply. This is my 1st time here :)

>Anyway, there's this book with detailed personal accounts of before

>and after surgery. Very helpful in my opinion. It has a section on how

>long it took the person to recover with a description of each month,

>day et al..

>Visit the site www.orthognathic.com

>All the best !

>

> >

> > Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had trrouble with my moth

> > and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had braces and other stuff for

> > about 13 years and i'm still not happy with the out come, so i

> > went to a new othro and he told me that my jaws need to be

> > relocated. But even that may not work bc i can't breath out of my

> > noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i did.

> >

> > They want to have surgery on my noise t open my air ways so i

> > would breath and maybe my tounge will do the normal thing and

> > stop pushing my teeth forward.

> >

> > But to have it all fixed i would need to have the sugery on my

> > jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet but i wanted to know

> > whow the surgery was and how long and bad was the recovery?

> >

> > I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about 4 years ago and

> > they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun. I did have much pain

> > but i had a lot of swelling and it took a long time to go away about

> > a year i guess it was.

> >

> > i could use some insice as to how it went for you and would you

> > do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

> >

>

>

>

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And worse, the web site is hawking a book that several members have

found to be expensive and unworthy. It is my belief that you can get

all the information you need from your doctors, and that this site,

site 2, and Fiddlesticks' Geocities site will provide any

ancillary details and discussions you may need. And you won't have to

fork over the big bucks to get any of them!

Best,

cammie

> > >

> > > Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had trrouble with my

moth

> > > and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had braces and other stuff

for

> > > about 13 years and i'm still not happy with the out come, so i

> > > went to a new othro and he told me that my jaws need to be

> > > relocated. But even that may not work bc i can't breath out of

my

> > > noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i did.

> > >

> > > They want to have surgery on my noise t open my air ways so i

> > > would breath and maybe my tounge will do the normal thing and

> > > stop pushing my teeth forward.

> > >

> > > But to have it all fixed i would need to have the sugery on my

> > > jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet but i wanted to

know

> > > whow the surgery was and how long and bad was the recovery?

> > >

> > > I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about 4 years ago and

> > > they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun. I did have much

pain

> > > but i had a lot of swelling and it took a long time to go away

about

> > > a year i guess it was.

> > >

> > > i could use some insice as to how it went for you and would you

> > > do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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I bought this book right when I found out about this sx. I would NOT

buy it again. It is mainly a personal diary of this guy that went

through the surgery. You can get all of that here on this site. It

was quite a waste of money. I might be able to email it to you if I

still have it on my computer.

Krystal

> > >

> > > Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had trrouble with my

> moth

> > > and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had braces and other stuff

> for

> > > about 13 years and i'm still not happy with the out come, so i

> > > went to a new othro and he told me that my jaws need to be

> > > relocated. But even that may not work bc i can't breath out of

> my

> > > noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i did.

> > >

> > > They want to have surgery on my noise t open my air ways so

> i

> > > would breath and maybe my tounge will do the normal thing

> and

> > > stop pushing my teeth forward.

> > >

> > > But to have it all fixed i would need to have the sugery on my

> > > jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet but i wanted to

> know

> > > whow the surgery was and how long and bad was the

> recovery?

> > >

> > > I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about 4 years ago

> and

> > > they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun. I did have much

> pain

> > > but i had a lot of swelling and it took a long time to go away

> about

> > > a year i guess it was.

> > >

> > > i could use some insice as to how it went for you and would

> you

> > > do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

> > >

> >

>

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Krystal - I would be interested in seeing this ebook. Would it be

possible for you to email it to me if it is still on your computer? I

had contemplated buying it but then read that it was a waste of

money, so I didn't bother. I'm having my surgery next June for an

underbite; my procedures will include a BSSO to set back my mandible

and a LeFort 1-piece to advance my maxilla and drop it down in front.

Thank you in advance for emailing it if you can. ~~~ Diane (Idaho)---

In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " kr_ziegler "

<kr_ziegler@y...> wrote:

>

> I bought this book right when I found out about this sx. I would

NOT

> buy it again. It is mainly a personal diary of this guy that went

> through the surgery. You can get all of that here on this site. It

> was quite a waste of money. I might be able to email it to you if

I

> still have it on my computer.

>

> Krystal

>

>

> > > >

> > > > Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had trrouble with my

> > moth

> > > > and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had braces and other

stuff

> > for

> > > > about 13 years and i'm still not happy with the out come, so

i

> > > > went to a new othro and he told me that my jaws need to be

> > > > relocated. But even that may not work bc i can't breath out

of

> > my

> > > > noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i did.

> > > >

> > > > They want to have surgery on my noise t open my air ways so

> > i

> > > > would breath and maybe my tounge will do the normal thing

> > and

> > > > stop pushing my teeth forward.

> > > >

> > > > But to have it all fixed i would need to have the sugery on

my

> > > > jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet but i wanted to

> > know

> > > > whow the surgery was and how long and bad was the

> > recovery?

> > > >

> > > > I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about 4 years ago

> > and

> > > > they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun. I did have much

> > pain

> > > > but i had a lot of swelling and it took a long time to go

away

> > about

> > > > a year i guess it was.

> > > >

> > > > i could use some insice as to how it went for you and would

> > you

> > > > do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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I agree. You need to send an e-mail to the group moderator. He has to

contact the group's owner to take action.

>

> Can this person be blocked? They're just hawking a web site.

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Krystal , thanks for the forward yea if you have it

i'd like to look at it. truby28@... thanks a

bunch

--- dmd13cyto wrote:

> Krystal - I would be interested in seeing this

> ebook. Would it be

> possible for you to email it to me if it is still on

> your computer? I

> had contemplated buying it but then read that it was

> a waste of

> money, so I didn't bother. I'm having my surgery

> next June for an

> underbite; my procedures will include a BSSO to set

> back my mandible

> and a LeFort 1-piece to advance my maxilla and drop

> it down in front.

> Thank you in advance for emailing it if you can. ~~~

> Diane (Idaho)---

> In orthognathicsurgerysupport ,

> " kr_ziegler "

> <kr_ziegler@y...> wrote:

> >

> > I bought this book right when I found out about

> this sx. I would

> NOT

> > buy it again. It is mainly a personal diary of

> this guy that went

> > through the surgery. You can get all of that here

> on this site. It

> > was quite a waste of money. I might be able to

> email it to you if

> I

> > still have it on my computer.

> >

> > Krystal

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi I'm a 23 year old female, and i have had

> trrouble with my

> > > moth

> > > > > and teeth as far back as 2yrs old. i had

> braces and other

> stuff

> > > for

> > > > > about 13 years and i'm still not happy with

> the out come, so

> i

> > > > > went to a new othro and he told me that my

> jaws need to be

> > > > > relocated. But even that may not work bc i

> can't breath out

> of

> > > my

> > > > > noic so he wants my to see and ENT , and i

> did.

> > > > >

> > > > > They want to have surgery on my noise t open

> my air ways so

> > > i

> > > > > would breath and maybe my tounge will do the

> normal thing

> > > and

> > > > > stop pushing my teeth forward.

> > > > >

> > > > > But to have it all fixed i would need to

> have the sugery on

> my

> > > > > jaws. They have not told me i need it , yet

> but i wanted to

> > > know

> > > > > whow the surgery was and how long and bad

> was the

> > > recovery?

> > > > >

> > > > > I have had my wisdom * lowwer take ot about

> 4 years ago

> > > and

> > > > > they cut in to the jaw and that was not fun.

> I did have much

> > > pain

> > > > > but i had a lot of swelling and it took a

> long time to go

> away

> > > about

> > > > > a year i guess it was.

> > > > >

> > > > > i could use some insice as to how it went

> for you and would

> > > you

> > > > > do it again if you had the choise. Thanks

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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