Re: Biliopancreatic Diversion?

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You are right, people should know what they are getting into! I get kind of

lazy sometimes and don't take my vitamins but then I think, suck it up, you

knew going into this that " normal " was going to be more work! So I pack my

protein powders and vitamins with me, sometimes reluctantly, but I do it

because I knew going into this it was part of the deal. Did my surgeon tell

me this? No, I learned from those who have been there and done that!

Thanks guys!

I went to my surgeon's support group this weekend, first one in many month

and I was talking with a woman that I knew some 10 years ago, she was

worried about the hair loss and such. Asked her what she was eating and

drinking, found out she wasn't eating much of anything, had some acid

problems. Anyway, I refer her to vitalady's website so she can read up on

the importance of protein when one woman who was sitting with us, who is in

training to be a new mentor, says we should get all our protein from food

not supplements. Okay, her skin was so white and dry looking I did all I

could to ask her if her complexion always looked like that or something that

happened after surgery. I really wish people would do the research and

learn from those who have been there, not what some doctor tells them when

they are not living in those shoes!

Open RNY 12/30/02

Biliopancreatic Diversion?

I have a co-worker that needed to lose @ 80 to 100 lbs and had a

biliopancreatic diversion? I am probably butchering the name of the

surgery but someone out there will probably know what I am talking

about. She had it @ 18 months ago and is an absolute disaster. She

can't stop losing weight and looks like a ghost. Supposedly with

this surgery her stomach was removed entirely?? which would explain

why she is in the bathroom constantly. She did NO (and I mean NO)

research prior to the surgery and picked the surgeon because she

liked the hospital where he did the surgery at. She had no clue they

removed her stomach entirely and wanted to lose weight because her

boyfriend told her to. She has nothing but fuzz on her head and has

lost pretty much all her hair.

She comes up today to show me her bloodwork results (the first she

has ever had done since surgery) and her ferritin is 1.9 and her

hermatocrit and hemoglobin are in the tank. She did not even have a

clue what they were or what the readings meant. She is now taking

ferrous sulfate which I don't think is going to help her. She has

never taken B12 in any form and just started taking an over the

counter generic multi-vitamin a few weeks ago. I had to really suck

in my anger because she is doing NOTHING to help herself and acts

like the big victim. I am going to have a frank talk with her that

she has got to pick up the slack and take care of herself or she is

liable to ruin her health permanently or possibly die of

malnutrition. She is pursuing a revision where they are going to go

in and try and recreate some sort of stomach for her. I feel like I

need more info before I talk to her so I am turning to the experts.

Any help or info would be appreciated. I want to talk to her because

she walks around moaning about how this is terrible surgery, etc.

when really she did all of this to herself. Granted, the surgeon

should not have done this surgery on her (from what I understand) but

as we all know, we have to know what we are getting into. I have

people at work ask me all the time if I am having all the problems

with that risky, terrible surgery like she had and I am tired of it.

This surgery saved my life, my health and my sanity and I want people

to know it. Okay, off the soap box... Help me out here guys, anyone

know anything about this surgery?

R in Nashville

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In a message dated 1/28/04 2:06:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jonnysgirl81@... writes:

>

> I know that one of the docs in New York does a Adjustable Banding and once

> they SMO person has some weight off converts to a DS. Makes the surgery

> safer (less weight - less fatty liver - hopefully better breathing and more

> mobility).

>

>

is the adjustable banding able to remain without

converying to a Ds...?

do you have the name of this doctor?

thanks,

laura

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In a message dated 1/27/2004 11:08:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jwbry@... writes:

> I think the BPD is one procedure most surgeons reserve for Super-MO folks,

> which your co-worker certainly was not. As I understand it (and somebody

> jump in here if I'm not correct), the better surgeons after most of the

> weight is off, it's revised to an RNY so you don't get that

> malnourishment

> and constant diarrhea that can go along with the BPD.

The BPD aka DS is and can be done on anyone who qualifies for weight loss

surgery, although the insurance companies seem to only be approving it for those

who are SMO. Some doctors will only do it on some patients; for some doctors it

is their preferred surgery; others prefer not to do it at all. However, I have

never heard of anyone being revised from a DS to an RNY (not that it hasn't

happened, just that I've never heard of it). More common is a revision from a

failed RNY to a DS.

Judy

Silver Spring, MD

Lap Proximal RNY 7/23/02

Drs. and Rabkin/SF

55/5'3 " - 257/140

size 22/XXL - 6/S

bmi 46/24

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I know that one of the docs in New York does a Adjustable Banding and once

they SMO person has some weight off converts to a DS. Makes the surgery

safer (less weight - less fatty liver - hopefully better breathing and more

mobility).

Marjie

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The stomach is reduced, but not removed in the BPDS procedure. BPDS

patients will have the same iron and calcium absorption problems as RNY

patients. It is rare for a BPDS patient to have a B-12 deficiency

because enough of the stomach is left to produce an adequate amount of

Intrinsic Factor to separate b-12 from protein. Since they have a short

common channel, they are prone to protein and fat soluble vitamin (ADEK)

malabsorption.

Ray Hooks

For WLS nutrition info, visit

http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com

angela6237220 wrote:

>

> I have a co-worker that needed to lose @ 80 to 100 lbs and had a

> biliopancreatic diversion? I am probably butchering the name of the

> surgery but someone out there will probably know what I am talking

> about. She had it @ 18 months ago and is an absolute disaster. She

> can't stop losing weight and looks like a ghost. Supposedly with

> this surgery her stomach was removed entirely?? which would explain

> why she is in the bathroom constantly. She did NO (and I mean NO)

> research prior to the surgery and picked the surgeon because she

> liked the hospital where he did the surgery at. She had no clue they

> removed her stomach entirely and wanted to lose weight because her

> boyfriend told her to. She has nothing but fuzz on her head and has

> lost pretty much all her hair.

>

> She comes up today to show me her bloodwork results (the first she

> has ever had done since surgery) and her ferritin is 1.9 and her

> hermatocrit and hemoglobin are in the tank. She did not even have a

> clue what they were or what the readings meant. She is now taking

> ferrous sulfate which I don't think is going to help her. She has

> never taken B12 in any form and just started taking an over the

> counter generic multi-vitamin a few weeks ago. I had to really suck

> in my anger because she is doing NOTHING to help herself and acts

> like the big victim. I am going to have a frank talk with her that

> she has got to pick up the slack and take care of herself or she is

> liable to ruin her health permanently or possibly die of

> malnutrition. She is pursuing a revision where they are going to go

> in and try and recreate some sort of stomach for her. I feel like I

> need more info before I talk to her so I am turning to the experts.

> Any help or info would be appreciated. I want to talk to her because

> she walks around moaning about how this is terrible surgery, etc.

> when really she did all of this to herself. Granted, the surgeon

> should not have done this surgery on her (from what I understand) but

> as we all know, we have to know what we are getting into. I have

> people at work ask me all the time if I am having all the problems

> with that risky, terrible surgery like she had and I am tired of it.

> This surgery saved my life, my health and my sanity and I want people

> to know it. Okay, off the soap box... Help me out here guys, anyone

> know anything about this surgery?

>

> R in Nashville

>

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