Re: Watery Diarrhea...at best mushy!!! HELP

[Guest guest]

> ***WARNING: Nasty details Included in this post, Read at your own risk!

>

> I am new to the SCD diet, only been doing it for 5 weeks however I have a

plethora of questions! I'm only going to address one for now. Before I was ever

diagnosed I had Diarrhea for a little over 3 years and for those 3 years I would

say 80-85% of the time it was straight water, Meaning if anyone were to have

walked by door and heard me defecating they would have thought i was peeing

instead. The best I would get would be just slightly more solid than that. I

didn't have flares. Just 3 years straight of Water poop with GOD AWEFUL STENCH!

So my questions in regard to this are when others talk about having Diarrhea

what consistency are you all dealing with? AND My first three weeks on SCD I

went immediately to solid poos, at times it was almost too solid. My entire

digestive system was very confused and delighted with the change! Then a loose

stool came followed by looser and now for 10 days its been the straight water

again. When you all talk about flares how long do they typi!

> cally last and do you digress clear back to water torture or just go to a

looser than firm stool?? Any and all answers will be so greatly appreciated!!

> And so it is,

> Amber

> 25 year old very inqusitive and

> eager to learn the most i can about

> my condition and how to heal myself

> without the use of medication.

> Diagnosed with Indeterminate

> colitis in Jan. 2010. Tests showed

> " Marker's " for Chrons and UC said

> Doc. After 3 years of Diarrhea

>

It's pretty typical to swing between extremes like this when first starting SCD.

It means the diet

is going to work for you, but it is going to take time and there will be lots of

two steps forward,

one big step back moments such as this one. Remember, healing on SCD is not

linear. And it

can take a long time. You are not going to heal 3 years of D with a month on

SCD, however

desirable that would be as an outcome.

So, in order to figure out what happened, were you keeping track of what you

were eating before

the change? And what you are eating now?

You may have had some immediate die off or reduction of inflammation that

provided the relief

and then something you ate either triggered some more bacterial or yeast

overgrowth or a

return to an inflamed gut. For example, did you eat some roughage or a lot of

sweet stuff?

Or perhaps you simply ate something your body did not tolerate well, and it will

take a week

or two or three to get over it - because at this stage in healing, the intestine

is very sensitive.

The best thing to do for flares is return to intro - to eat broths and other

intro food - whatever

you tolerated best early on.

It's encouraging, though, that you got such good early results, because it means

SCD will

work for you once you get a better sense of what you are doing - which is part

of the

steep learning curve on SCD - listening to and understanding your body's

responses to

various food/stimuli.

Mara

[Guest guest]

YAY! I did something right! I have been journaling all consumption since i started! I actually started on a general diet not the intro diet listed by Elaine.

Sep 1-4: Scrambled Eggs, Almonds, Walnuts, Raisins, Cod Loins, Butter, Welches Juice homeade Gelatin

Sep 4-9- same but added cooked carrots

Sep 9-11: same as 4-9 but added cooked zuchinni and cooked squash

Sep 11- 13: Added Cooked Onions

Sep 13: Added Cooked Green Peppers

Sept 14-16: Added Hamburger, Garlic, Oregano, cumin, paprika, red pepper

Sept 16-17: Added 1/2 extremely ripe banana

Sept 18: Removed banana ( stools weren't as firm as they had been..just slight change) but didn't want to risk it. I put it on the " try again later list"

Sep 19- 21: Added Mild cheddar Cheese

Sept 21- 23: Added Lettuce

Sept 23-25: Added Green beans cooked

Sept 25: added a commercial salad dressing ( brianna's real french vinagarette) thought label looked ok...but had a bad feeling about it. AND Turkey from a deli but all the ingredients said was in it was turkey , salt , and water. So i don't think it was that.

NIGHT of 26- FLARE STARTED

Sept 26- Oct 6: Went back to everything i was eating from 19th and before.

Flare is still really bad...pure water...little bit of bloody mucous now I think

Oct. 5 and Oct 6: I started juicing a mixture of carrots, celery, apples, and spinach. only one cup each day

Maybe i should also mention:

since Sept. 1st i had been rotating applying essential oils to the soles of my feet. Mostly Clove, but also used cedarwood and geranium

All along I took a multivitamin, cod liver oil, and a b-complex liquid

AND: I started experiencing flu-like symptoms on Sept 6. including a sore throat that lasted until sept 28th!!! Yesterday (aug 5) i started having a slight sore throat again.

Thank you so much for your quick and helpful reply!!

[Guest guest]

Amber, I think it is important to start with the intro diet and advance slowly.

With watery D, I would start with the soups and dry curd cottage cheese if you

tolerate dairy. You need to let your gut calm down. Also there is no legal

commercial dressing that I know of, in fact there is hardly anything commercial

that is legal. To get the best results- especially in the beginning- make your

own. Deli turkey is also not legal. Beware poultry as it often has additives and

read the labels carefully. Only buy poultry that is minimally processed with

maybe a few percent water added. Never with flavorings or broths.

A good guide to stages is pecanbread.com. It is a site for kids with ASD and

they are non dairy..We can have legal SCD yogurt and legal cheeses. You may want

to wait a while to add hard cheese.

I think you will feel better on this plan. Don't feel bad as it is common to

make mistakes in the beginning. It is a lot to learn.

PJ

One of the first mistakes made is to think if it is legal- you can eat it. Some

of the foods- whole nuts, raisins, are very advanced.

>

> YAY! I did something right! I have been journaling all consumption since i

started! I actually started on a general diet not the intro diet listed by

Elaine.

> Sep 1-4: Scrambled Eggs, Almonds, Walnuts, Raisins,  Cod Loins, Butter,

Welches Juice homeade Gelatin

> Sep 4-9- same but added cooked carrots

> Sep 9-11: same as 4-9 but added cooked zuchinni and cooked squash

> Sep 11- 13: Added Cooked Onions

> Sep 13: Added Cooked Green Peppers

> Sept 14-16: Added Hamburger, Garlic, Oregano, cumin, paprika, red pepper

> Sept 16-17: Added 1/2 extremely ripe banana

> Sept 18: Removed banana ( stools weren't as firm as they had been..just slight

change) but didn't want to risk it. I put it on the " try again later list "

> Sep 19- 21: Added Mild cheddar Cheese

> Sept 21- 23: Added Lettuce

> Sept 23-25: Added Green beans cooked

> Sept 25: added a commercial salad dressing ( brianna's real french

vinagarette) thought label looked ok...but had a bad feeling about it. AND

Turkey from a deli but all the ingredients said was in it was turkey , salt ,

and water. So i don't think it was that.

> NIGHT of 26- FLARE STARTED

> Sept 26- Oct 6: Went back to everything i was eating from 19th and before.

> Flare is still really bad...pure water...little bit of bloody mucous now I

think

>  

> Oct. 5 and Oct 6: I started juicing a mixture of carrots, celery, apples, and

spinach. only one cup each day

>  

> Maybe i should also mention:  

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> since Sept. 1st i had been rotating applying essential oils to the soles of my

feet. Mostly Clove, but also used cedarwood and geranium

>  

> All along I took a multivitamin, cod liver oil, and a b-complex liquid

>  

> AND: I started experiencing flu-like symptoms on Sept 6. including a sore

throat that lasted until  sept 28th!!! Yesterday (aug 5) i started  having a

slight sore throat again.

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> Thank you so much for your quick and helpful reply!!

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[Guest guest]

I'll let the more experienced folks comment more, but I did want to say that I had a mild sore throat for weeks at the beginning of the diet. Couldn't figure it out! It went away eventually and hasn't ever come back.

Marla

IBS-D 20 yrs

SCD 11/09

Questran

From: Amber

Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:59 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: Watery Diarrhea...at best mushy!!! HELP

YAY! I did something right! I have been journaling all consumption since i started! I actually started on a general diet not the intro diet listed by Elaine.

Sep 1-4: Scrambled Eggs, Almonds, Walnuts, Raisins, Cod Loins, Butter, Welches Juice homeade Gelatin

Sep 4-9- same but added cooked carrots

Sep 9-11: same as 4-9 but added cooked zuchinni and cooked squash

Sep 11- 13: Added Cooked Onions

Sep 13: Added Cooked Green Peppers

Sept 14-16: Added Hamburger, Garlic, Oregano, cumin, paprika, red pepper

Sept 16-17: Added 1/2 extremely ripe banana

Sept 18: Removed banana ( stools weren't as firm as they had been..just slight change) but didn't want to risk it. I put it on the " try again later list"

Sep 19- 21: Added Mild cheddar Cheese

Sept 21- 23: Added Lettuce

Sept 23-25: Added Green beans cooked

Sept 25: added a commercial salad dressing ( brianna's real french vinagarette) thought label looked ok...but had a bad feeling about it. AND Turkey from a deli but all the ingredients said was in it was turkey , salt , and water. So i don't think it was that.

NIGHT of 26- FLARE STARTED

Sept 26- Oct 6: Went back to everything i was eating from 19th and before.

Flare is still really bad...pure water...little bit of bloody mucous now I think

Oct. 5 and Oct 6: I started juicing a mixture of carrots, celery, apples, and spinach. only one cup each day

Maybe i should also mention:

since Sept. 1st i had been rotating applying essential oils to the soles of my feet. Mostly Clove, but also used cedarwood and geranium

All along I took a multivitamin, cod liver oil, and a b-complex liquid

AND: I started experiencing flu-like symptoms on Sept 6. including a sore throat that lasted until sept 28th!!! Yesterday (aug 5) i started having a slight sore throat again.

Thank you so much for your quick and helpful reply!!

[Guest guest]

For me (2 mos on diet), my definition of diarrhea is loose, mushy stools,

with urgency and pain. The first few weeks on the diet, any time I ate

something that did not agree with me (acorn squash, greasy ground beef

twice) I got what I refer to as " the runs " - water and fine pieces of stool

almost exploding and/or pouring out of me. This lasted for two days each

time it happened. I haven't tried anything new for a while for fear of this

happening again - I get SO dehydrated when it does!!

Hope this is helpful ~ Janine

Beauty is Life when Life unveils her holy face. But you are Life and you are

the veil. -Kahlil Gibran

Watery Diarrhea...at best mushy!!! HELP

***WARNING: Nasty details Included in this post, Read at your own risk!

I am new to the SCD diet, only been doing it for 5 weeks however I have a

plethora of questions! I'm only going to address one for now. Before I was

ever diagnosed I had Diarrhea for a little over 3 years and for those 3

years I would say 80-85% of the time it was straight water, Meaning if

anyone were to have walked by door and heard me defecating they would have

thought i was peeing instead. The best I would get would be just slightly

more solid than that. I didn't have flares. Just 3 years straight of Water

poop with GOD AWEFUL STENCH! So my questions in regard to this are when

others talk about having Diarrhea what consistency are you all dealing with?

AND My first three weeks on SCD I went immediately to solid poos, at times

it was almost too solid. My entire digestive system was very confused and

delighted with the change! Then a loose stool came followed by looser and

now for 10 days its been the straight water again. When you all talk about

flares how long do they typically last and do you digress clear back to

water torture or just go to a looser than firm stool?? Any and all answers

will be so greatly appreciated!!

And so it is,

Amber

25 year old very inqusitive and

eager to learn the most i can about

my condition and how to heal myself

without the use of medication.

Diagnosed with Indeterminate

colitis in Jan. 2010. Tests showed

" Marker's " for Chrons and UC said

Doc. After 3 years of Diarrhea

------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

I'll let the more experienced folks comment more, but I did want to say that I had a mild sore throat for weeks at the beginning of the diet. Couldn't figure it out! It went away eventually and hasn't ever come back. MarlaIBS-D 20 yrsSCD 11/09QuestranFrom: Amber Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 8:59 PMTo: BTVC-SCD Subject: Re: Watery Diarrhea...at best mushy!!! HELPYAY! I did something right! I have been journaling all consumption since i started! I actually started on a general diet not the intro diet listed by Elaine.Sep 1-4: Scrambled Eggs, Almonds, Walnuts, Raisins, Cod Loins, Butter, Welches Juice homeade GelatinSep 4-9- same but added cooked carrotsSep 9-11: same as 4-9 but added cooked zuchinni and cooked squashSep 11- 13: Added Cooked OnionsSep 13: Added Cooked Green PeppersSept 14-16: Added Hamburger, Garlic, Oregano, cumin, paprika, red pepperSept 16-17: Added 1/2 extremely ripe bananaSept 18: Removed banana ( stools weren't as firm as they had been..just slight change) but didn't want to risk it. I put it on the " try again later list"Sep 19- 21: Added Mild cheddar CheeseSept 21- 23: Added LettuceSept 23-25: Added Green beans cookedSept 25: added a commercial salad dressing ( brianna's real french vinagarette) thought label looked ok...but had a bad feeling about it. AND Turkey from a deli but all the ingredients said was in it was turkey , salt , and water. So i don't think it was that.Yeah - it was the turkey from the deli and the commercial salad dressing. It doesn't matter what they say, that kind ofstuff is just off limits for a long, long while. Unfortunately, you are learning the hard way what this stuff can do to you when you are in the delicate process of healing - it can cause a major upset that lasts a long time and is hard to get back under control immediately. The good news is you most likely won't repeat that mistake for a while. stick to homemade for now. The reaction was immediate, so there's no disputing it. For right now I would take out the almonds, walnuts and raisin and fresh lettuce. Stick to fiish, gelatin, eggs, broth and well cooked and peeled carrots and zucchini. Butter and oil is okay. Hamburger as long as you tolerate it. Just eat that for several days and see if anything improves. Some people say that when you have D, you should take out the eggs. It never made a bit of difference to me, so that's not universal, but you might try a few days without eggs to see if that helps you or not. Or youcould take out the egg white, which is the part of the egg that most people are reactive to. The broth - which actually I don't notice on your list - is anti-inflammatory and helps the intestines heal. Mara

[Guest guest]

In

addition to the other excellent advice from group members, I wanted to also

caution you about supplements as they can be a source of “hidden”

illegals.

Can

you give us the names of the supplements you are currently taking, in

particular the B-Complex liquid? I can’t remember ever finding a

B-complex or B vitamin in a liquid form that was SCD-legal, they all contained

something that is off-limits while on SCD. This is why I give myself B12 by

injection! We can check the ingredient list on those things you are

taking and see if there is a problem.

It

can be very helpful to stop taking all supplements during a symptom flare, even

essential oils used on skin. Just focus on foods until you get the

combination right, until you have identified all of your safe or core foods,

and your symptoms start disappearing. Then when you feel your digestion

is stable again you can try adding one supplement at a time, checking the

ingredient list of each supplement very carefully. I would start off with

a legal probiotic first, as that is the most critical, followed by a

multivitamin.

My

experience has been that in the case of some supplements, I didn’t

realize they were causing the problem until I stopped taking it, even a tiny

dose can impact the body. So my routine when I have a symptom flare is to

fall back to my version of the intro. diet for a day or two, stop all

supplements including L. Acidophilus, then advance to my safest foods for a few

weeks or months, before starting to add back one supplement at a time over a 2

or 3 week period. I’ve caught more problem supplements by using

this method.

Kim M.

SCD 6+ years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 7 years

neurological & spinal deterioration 4 years

currently dealing with skin issues on hands and arms

(carcinomas)

[Guest guest]

At 07:59 PM 10/6/2010, you wrote:

YAY! I did something right! I

have been journaling all consumption since i started! I actually started

on a general diet not the intro diet listed by Elaine.

Sep 1-4: Scrambled Eggs, Almonds, Walnuts, Raisins,

Cod Loins, Butter, Welches Juice homeade Gelatin

Sep 4-9- same but added cooked carrots

Sep 9-11: same as 4-9 but added cooked zuchinni and cooked

squash

Sep 11- 13: Added Cooked Onions

Sep 13: Added Cooked Green Peppers

Sept 14-16: Added Hamburger, Garlic, Oregano, cumin, paprika, red

pepper

Sept 16-17: Added 1/2 extremely ripe banana

Sept 18: Removed banana ( stools weren't as firm as they had

been..just slight change) but didn't want to risk it. I put it on the

" try again later list "

Sep 19- 21: Added Mild cheddar Cheese

Sept 21- 23: Added Lettuce

Sept 23-25: Added Green beans cooked

Sept 25: added a commercial salad dressing ( brianna's real french

vinagarette) thought label looked ok...but had a bad feeling about it.

AND Turkey from a deli but all the ingredients said was in it was turkey

, salt , and water. So i don't think it was that.

Well, you were doing pretty well up until you used that commercial salad

dressing. And the deli turkey.

I got soooo sick on deli meat -- your best bet is to roast a turkey

breast and thin-slice it yourself.

And:

http://www.briannassaladdressing.com/flavors/french-vinaigrette.html

#

Ingredients: canola oil, water, white vinegar, apple cider

vinegar, salt, garlic, spices, mustard flour, citric acid,

xanthan gum, mixed tocopherols

(natural antioxidant -- vitamin e).

There's your culprit, right there -- all gums are SCD illegal. I don't

think it's happenstance that you ate deli turkey and that salad dressing,

and then had a flare.

NIGHT of 26- FLARE

STARTED

Sept 26- Oct 6: Went back to everything i was eating from 19th and

before.

Flare is still really bad...pure water...little bit of bloody mucous now

I think

Oct. 5 and Oct 6: I started juicing a mixture of carrots, celery,

apples, and spinach. only one cup each day

Maybe i should also mention:

since Sept. 1st i had been rotating applying essential oils to the soles

of my feet. Mostly Clove, but also used cedarwood and geranium

All along I took a multivitamin, cod liver oil, and a b-complex

liquid

What are the ingredients in your multivitamin and in the b-complex

liquid?

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

uggggh. Back to step one! Maybe I'll get it right THIS time! I'm going down to just the chicken broth recipe ( can i eat the chicken in it too for my first day back on intro?) and welches no sugar gelatin and apple cider gelatin. I had a feeling i needed to go back to in intro diet, the even more strict than i had done in the first place but I quite frankly was scared to because since i started this i have went from 115lbs to 100lbs! I don't want to look anymore skeletal than i already do! I have a few more questions to get me rolling on the right track...

What about my vitamins should i just start with them on this first day? (cod liver oil, whole food multivitamin, b-complex liquid, probiotic)

On another note, I was reading lots about juicing, borrowed a real nice one from my mom two days ago and was juicing the last two days. I had a good feeling about it but i'm not sure when is the right time to add that? It is all raw foods...2 apples, handful of spinach, handful of carrots, and 1 stalk of celery. Although I am doing tons of reading on everything I'm scared i may not be understanding it all correctly.

In my rationale, I'm allowed to have juices from the beginning (book mentions grape and pure apple). This mixture IS a juice. I shouldn't start with RAW foods according to boo, and these are raw. I can't start with raw because of all the fibrous material hard on my digestive system BUT the juice removes all that. This diet is all for maximizing what your body can absorb and minimizing what it can't and it seems to me the juicer is putting these raw vegetables into a form that should be easily absorbable to the damaged digestive tract not to mention WAY more rich in nutrients. I'm probably way off base? Anyone have experience with juicing? Should i wait until ive done the intro a few days or is it allowed in intro?

My mom is reading pecanbread.com stages in the other room and just read something to me that I interpret as juicing IS okay in stage 1. So after a few days of intro. She may have just answered my question. But i'd still like to hear the knowledge you all have on it!

And so it is,

Amber

[Guest guest]

At 09:44 AM 10/7/2010, you wrote:

Anyone have experience with

juicing? Should i wait until ive done the intro a few days or is it

allowed in intro?

Juicing is acceptable, but you should not use a mixture of juices.

Introduce ONE juice at a time. Otherwise, you will not know what item you

might be reacting to.

Also, all juices MUST be diluted at the start of the diet.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

uggggh. Back to step one! Maybe I'll get it right THIS time! I'm going down to just the chicken broth recipe ( can i eat the chicken in it too for my first day back on intro?)definitely. And have it a lot - as often as you get hungry. Lots of small meals are helpful on intro. and welches no sugar gelatin and apple cider gelatin. I had a feeling i needed to go back to in intro diet, the even more strict than i had done in the first place but I quite frankly was scared to because since i started this i have went from 115lbs to 100lbs! I don't want to look anymore skeletal than i already do! I have a few more questions to get me rolling on the right track... What about my vitamins should i just start with them on this first day? (cod liver oilCod liver oil is okay - as long as it has no additives. What probiotic are you taking? What are the ingredients of the whole food multivitamin? Kim suggested you might want to check the ingredients of the b-complex liquid or get that in IV form. , whole food multivitamin, b-complex liquid, probiotic) On another note, I was reading lots about juicing, borrowed a real nice one from my mom two days ago and was juicing the last two days. I had a good feeling about it but i'm not sure when is the right time to add that? It is all raw foods...2 apples, handful of spinach, handful of carrots, and 1 stalk of celery. Although I am doing tons of reading on everything I'm scared i may not be understanding it all correctly. In my rationale, I'm allowed to have juices from the beginning (book mentions grape and pure apple). This mixture IS a juice.You can juice apple and grape from the beginning, but remember to dilute them before drinking or making into gelatin. For anything else, I would wait a few days to see if this little flare is going to clear up or not quickly. Once you begin to firm up, then you can introduce other kinds of juice. But remember to introduce things slowly, one at a time, so you know what you react to and what is fine. Eat lots of gelatin and broth. If you do dairy, you can also make the cheesecake (w/out crust) on the intro (with minimal honey) - although you may want to wait a few days for that one, since it contains eggs - but once you start improving you can intro it. That will help with the weight - the recipe is in the book. Mara

[Guest guest]

lol, wow I'm having a rough time. I've got my gelatin cooling in fridge I made this morning but I'll have to save that for when my flare is over and make new batches with the juice diluted! Knew to dilute the straight juice I drink but didn't think about diluting it in gelatin form!

Cod Liver Oil: Cod liver Oil, gelatin, glycerin, soybean oil

Bcomplex with B-12: Purified Water, Sorbitol, Vegetable glycerin, citric acid, potassium sorbate, natural flavor. It also says on it : NO artifical color or flavor, NO sugar, NO milk, NO lactose, NO soy, NO gluten, NO wheat, NO yeast, NO fish. Sodium free

Multivitamin is the Garden of Life Living Multi Optimal Formula. http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/SUPPLEMENTS/LivingNutrients/LivingMultiOptimal/tabid/667/Default.aspx

I got started on that vitamin back in january before i got diagnosed and was trying " the maker's diet". It was the one reccommended for that diet.

Probiotic: PB8 Pro-Biotic Acidophilus For Life: 14 billion Good Bacteria

http://www.vitacost.com/Nutrition-Now-PB-8-Pro-Biotic-Acidophilus-for-Life#IngredientFacts

[Guest guest]

At 11:05 AM 10/7/2010, you wrote:

Cod Liver Oil: Cod liver

Oil, gelatin, glycerin, soybean oil

Bcomplex with B-12: Purified Water, Sorbitol, Vegetable glycerin,

citric acid, potassium sorbate, natural flavor. It also says on it

: NO artifical color or flavor, NO sugar, NO milk,

NO lactose, NO soy, NO gluten, NO wheat,

NO yeast, NO fish. Sodium free

Sorbitol and " natural flavor " are not SCD-legal -- sorbitol is

a sugar alcohol and can feed the bad bacteria, and who knows what the

" natural flavor " is?

Multivitamin is the Garden of Life Living Multi Optimal Formula.

http://www.gardenoflife.com/ProductsforLife/SUPPLEMENTS/LivingNutrients/LivingMultiOptimal/tabid/667/Default.aspx

This has enough illegals in it to make my head spin. Red algae,

chlorella, spirulina, all the " extracts " that you don't know

what they did to them to extract them from the whole food, plus sorbitol

and croscarmelose sodium -- you DON'T want this multi-vitamin!

I got started on that vitamin back in january before i got diagnosed and

was trying " the maker's diet " . It was the one reccommended for

that diet.

Probiotic: PB8 Pro-Biotic Acidophilus For Life: 14 billion Good

Bacteria

http://www.vitacost.com/Nutrition-Now-PB-8-Pro-Biotic-Acidophilus-for-Life#IngredientFacts

Again, not legal.

Proprietary Blend (Rice Maltodextrin, Inulin, Lactobacillus

acidophilus, Lactobacillus plantarum, Lactobacillus rhamnosus,

Lactobacillus casei, Lactobacillus paracasei, Lactobacillus salivarius,

Bifidobacterium Bifidum and Bifidobacterium longum)

Maltodextrin is not legal. Inulin (FOS) is not legal, and neither is

anything with bifidus in it. Paracasei and salivarius is also not

legal.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

wow. Its amazing I was able to get good results initially at all! Maybe I should just be inspired that my body was still responding when I was still putting all that bad stuff in it. Hopefully If i get all these kinks worked out, I'll start having a quick turn around!

Once again thank you

[Guest guest]

THis one sounds bad. " Natural flavor " can be sugar, for

one thing. And sorbitol is a sugar alcohol and all those feed the

badbuggies. I had to take a Benadryl a couple of weeks ago for a

test, and it had sorbitol in it. Even just the amount in a very

small pill sure let the bad buggies party it up for a few unhappy

days! Thank goodness I only had to take one! So there

are two illegals right there.

Bcomplex with B-12: Purified Water, Sorbitol, Vegetable glycerin,

citric acid, potassium sorbate, natural flavor. It also says on it

: NO artifical color or flavor, NO sugar, NO milk, NO lactose, NO soy, NO

gluten, NO wheat, NO yeast, NO fish. Sodium free

[Guest guest]

What surgery did you get? My dr has been hinting towards removing parts or all

of colon

>

> >wow. Its amazing I was able to get good results

> >initially at all! Maybe I should just be

> >inspired that my body was still responding when

> >I was still putting all that bad stuff in it.

> >Hopefully If i get all these kinks worked out,

> >I'll start having a quick turn around!

>

> Well, when you removed all the grains and stuff,

> your body was able to relax a little.

>

> Then you threw those gums in the salad dressing

> and who-knows-what in the deli turkey at it, and it said, " ack, ack! "

>

> One of the things we see is that as you start to

> heal, there's something called " unmasking, " where

> things you previously apparently tolerated just fine suddenly cause trouble.

>

> I think that's what happened here.

>

> I've been going around the bush with a couple

> supplements that I apparently did well with

> before my surgery, but then had to go off, and

> now I can't tolerate them. I keep hoping, but I

> think I'm going to have to give up on them.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>

[Guest guest]

At 02:17 AM 10/8/2010, you wrote:

What surgery did you get? My dr

has been hinting towards removing parts or all of colon

My surgery was not related directly to the colon. I had endometrial

(uterine) cancer. They removed the uterus, Fallopian tubes, ovaries, and

a number of lymph nodes.

My major concern was that one of the first places uterine cancer spreads

is to the colon, and therefore, I did not know, going into the surgery,

if I would come out with an intact gut. Fortunately, it had not

spread.

My mentor on SCD was pointed at surgery, and did FANATICAL SCD for 14

months -- and her doctor said he would not have believed she was the same

patient if he had not diagnosed her himself. She went from a gut which

" looked like bloody lace, " to " no lesions. " But it

took FANATICAL ADHERENCE.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

At 02:17 AM 10/8/2010, you wrote:

What surgery did you get? My dr

has been hinting towards removing parts or all of colon

My surgery was not related directly to the colon. I had endometrial

(uterine) cancer. They removed the uterus, Fallopian tubes, ovaries, and

a number of lymph nodes.

My major concern was that one of the first places uterine cancer spreads

is to the colon, and therefore, I did not know, going into the surgery,

if I would come out with an intact gut. Fortunately, it had not

spread.

My mentor on SCD was pointed at surgery, and did FANATICAL SCD for 14

months -- and her doctor said he would not have believed she was the same

patient if he had not diagnosed her himself. She went from a gut which

" looked like bloody lace, " to " no lesions. " But it

took FANATICAL ADHERENCE.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle