Re: Monday on Oprah: January 12, 2004

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/10/04 1:34:32 PM Central Standard Time,

fabmsm2002@... writes:

> I found that picture of the women's breasts that was on the Oprah show.

> Mine looked exactly like that. I was ashamed enough with out the comments

made

> by the host. I guess if enough people like you and are willing to spend

> money on your products you can say insulting things. Maureen

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Exactly what " insulting things " were said and by whom?

What people are spending money on what products?

I do not understand why there is any issue of " shame " here. A

physical deformity that results from dramatic weight loss should not be a shame

inducing thing. I can understand being self-conscious and worrying that others

might be " turned off " by the appearance, but " shame? "

I watched the Oprah show -- I did not see any disparagement by Oprah.

She expressed shock and surprise at the woman's breasts -- she had never seen

anything like it before, and stated that (I'm sure none of us had either,

before having our dramatic weight loss). She expressed a normal reaction,

gratitude that her body was not so afflicted -- and suggested that those of us

(including ourselves) who complain about our bodies should not do so -- there

are

obviously many others out there whose plight is far worse -- she stated that

she would never complain about her own breasts again.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

[Guest guest]

That's exactly how I felt about Oprah's comments.

in NJ

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> I found that picture of the women's breasts that was on the Oprah

show. Mine looked exactly like that. I was ashamed enough with out

the comments made by the host.

> I guess if enough people like you and are willing to spend money

on your products you can say insulting things. Maureen

>

[Guest guest]

To me, it was Oprah's expression of disgust at what the woman's boobs

looked like before, never considering that many people are dealing

with bodies that are either similar or even worse and can't afford

PS. My boobs were pretty close to that woman's even before WLS,

probably made worse by years of yo-yo dieting, and I'm sure there are

many others out there. I was fortunate enough to be able to self-pay

for my BR when insurance denied, but many are not so fortunate. She

made me feel awful about what I looked like before, even though I no

longer look like that. I took huge offense at her remarks. She was

very positive about the results, but someone in her postion should

not be so insulting, knowing there are so many others with the same

problem who have to just live with it. She went over the top, IMO.

in NJ

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>>

> Exactly what " insulting things " were said and by whom?

> What people are spending money on what products?

>

> I do not understand why there is any issue of " shame " here.

A physical deformity that results from dramatic weight loss should

not be a shame inducing thing. I can understand being self-conscious

and worrying that others might be " turned off " by the appearance,

but " shame? "

> I watched the Oprah show -- I did not see any disparagement

by Oprah. She expressed shock and surprise at the woman's breasts --

she had never seen anything like it before, and stated that (I'm sure

none of us had either, before having our dramatic weight loss). She

expressed a normal reaction, gratitude that her body was not so

afflicted -- and suggested that those of us (including ourselves) who

complain about our bodies should not do so -- there are obviously

many others out there whose plight is far worse -- she stated that

> she would never complain about her own breasts again.

>

> Beth

>

[Guest guest]

Like hers do not look the same way when she is on one of her diets?

Or at least close?

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Re: Monday on Oprah: January 12, 2004

> To me, it was Oprah's expression of disgust at what the woman's

boobs

> looked like before, never considering that many people are dealing

> with bodies that are either similar or even worse and can't afford

> PS. My boobs were pretty close to that woman's even before WLS,

> probably made worse by years of yo-yo dieting, and I'm sure there

are

> many others out there. I was fortunate enough to be able to

self-pay

> for my BR when insurance denied, but many are not so fortunate.

She

> made me feel awful about what I looked like before, even though I

no

> longer look like that. I took huge offense at her remarks. She

was

> very positive about the results, but someone in her postion should

> not be so insulting, knowing there are so many others with the

same

> problem who have to just live with it. She went over the top,

IMO.

>

> in NJ

> **************************

>

>

> >>

> > Exactly what " insulting things " were said and by whom?

> > What people are spending money on what products?

> >

> > I do not understand why there is any issue of " shame "

here.

> A physical deformity that results from dramatic weight loss should

> not be a shame inducing thing. I can understand being

self-conscious

> and worrying that others might be " turned off " by the appearance,

> but " shame? "

> > I watched the Oprah show -- I did not see any

disparagement

> by Oprah. She expressed shock and surprise at the woman's

breasts --

> she had never seen anything like it before, and stated that (I'm

sure

> none of us had either, before having our dramatic weight loss).

She

> expressed a normal reaction, gratitude that her body was not so

> afflicted -- and suggested that those of us (including ourselves)

who

> complain about our bodies should not do so -- there are obviously

> many others out there whose plight is far worse -- she stated that

> > she would never complain about her own breasts again.

> >

> > Beth

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am seeing this from a completely different perspective. Oprah had

stated that she was complaining about her own breast not being perky and

realized that there are those among us who have a much worse problem.

Basically she was saying that she didn't have much to complain about

anymore, that hers were actually looking pretty good. And to be honest,

I haven't complained much about my boobs since seeing the show. The

worst mine have gotten is a D.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/356/hoping for close to 200

On Sat, 10 Jan 2004 22:48:00 -0000 " watnext2001 "

writes:

> To me, it was Oprah's expression of disgust at what the woman's boobs

>

> looked like before, never considering that many people are dealing

> with bodies that are either similar or even worse and can't afford

> PS. My boobs were pretty close to that woman's even before WLS,

> probably made worse by years of yo-yo dieting, and I'm sure there

> are

> many others out there. I was fortunate enough to be able to

> self-pay

> for my BR when insurance denied, but many are not so fortunate. She

>

> made me feel awful about what I looked like before, even though I no

>

> longer look like that. I took huge offense at her remarks. She was

>

> very positive about the results, but someone in her postion should

> not be so insulting, knowing there are so many others with the same

>

> problem who have to just live with it. She went over the top, IMO.

>

> in NJ

> **************************

>

>

> >>

> > Exactly what " insulting things " were said and by whom?

> > What people are spending money on what products?

> >

> > I do not understand why there is any issue of " shame " here.

>

> A physical deformity that results from dramatic weight loss should

> not be a shame inducing thing. I can understand being

> self-conscious

> and worrying that others might be " turned off " by the appearance,

> but " shame? "

> > I watched the Oprah show -- I did not see any disparagement

>

> by Oprah. She expressed shock and surprise at the woman's breasts

> --

> she had never seen anything like it before, and stated that (I'm

> sure

> none of us had either, before having our dramatic weight loss). She

>

> expressed a normal reaction, gratitude that her body was not so

> afflicted -- and suggested that those of us (including ourselves)

> who

> complain about our bodies should not do so -- there are obviously

> many others out there whose plight is far worse -- she stated that

> > she would never complain about her own breasts again.

> >

> > Beth

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, what she said, but especially HOW she said it, sounds so benign when

you put it that way, but it wasn't. She was making a huge deal of it, and it

was mortifying to anyone who's body was not the norm. I've heard her freak out

(literally) before when talking about boobs that are larger than DDD. This is

her style...she actually (knowingly or unknowingly) puts people down, while

building herself up as normal. Believe me, Miss Perfect is not so perfect.

And, since I was an object of her embarrassing remarks several times in the

past, I'm no longer a fan of hers. Of course, the last straw was her promotion

of

Dr. Phil. I will give credit where credit's due, and she is a great

philanthropist, but we know the Dr. Phil issue speaks for itself.

in NJ

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In a message dated 1/11/2004 12:16:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,

loriowen@... writes:

> I am seeing this from a completely different perspective. Oprah had

> stated that she was complaining about her own breast not being perky and

> realized that there are those among us who have a much worse problem.

> Basically she was saying that she didn't have much to complain about

> anymore, that hers were actually looking pretty good. And to be honest,

> I haven't complained much about my boobs since seeing the show. The

> worst mine have gotten is a D.

> Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

[Guest guest]

> Thought you all might want to know about this. It would be interesting to

know how Oprah deals with this subject.

> > MONDAY'S SHOW: Randy : Inside a Gastric Bypass

** all this talk about Randy, has anyone ever confirmed whether Star

has gastric bypass or not? it was rumored that she had it done in the early

summer I think, I saw the show twice over the holidays and didn't think she

looked much different, they were all talking about dieting and apparently

had all lost some weight.

????????

sue