RE: Re: Is there Love after WLS (Geekville)

[Guest guest]

I just can't let this rest! I are a [married] GEEK who runs a home

network with my Macintosh, my PC, my DW's Macintosh Cube (wirelessly

connected) and a Mac notebook with wireless connectivity, plus a

networked laser printer. I have spend the better part (actually, it

was worse, not better!) of yesterday and today diagnosing and fixing

what turned out to be a home network router that was going bad,

port-by-port, getting a new one, installing and configuring it, and

then trying to get the printer recognized by it (long geeky story

about that, too!). Now, everything works again. I prefer to work on

my Macintosh, but I keep the PC for some chores that I can only do

with a PC and also to watch TV while I am in my office (the video

card in the PC also receives cable TV). Because I had what added up

to an LBL last year, I can caution you to BEWARE OF GEEKS BEARING

LIFTS!

Get him a Mac, Debbie! (Ceep uses one)

--Steve

At 6:32 PM -0800 1/23/04, Debbie McNeice wrote:

>Cindy, then you are looking UNDER the wrong computers. LOL If they are MAC's

>(ok...no offense to MAC users <grin>) then try a REAL computer! ONLY kidding

>guys....no flaming here. My hubby has been bugging me for a MAC for his

>graphic work. So this is ONLY a joke. <phew>

[Guest guest]

Geek or not, you're a cool, sweet and caring guy, Steve. We

all know you are - and we also know you're a little cheeky,

and we love you for it, brother dear!

Sharon in D.C.

RE: Re: Is there Love after WLS

(Geekville)

I just can't let this rest! I are a [married] GEEK who runs

a home

network with my Macintosh, my PC, my DW's Macintosh Cube

(wirelessly

connected) and a Mac notebook with wireless connectivity,

plus a

networked laser printer. I have spend the better part

(actually, it

was worse, not better!) of yesterday and today diagnosing

and fixing

what turned out to be a home network router that was going

bad,

port-by-port, getting a new one, installing and configuring

it, and

then trying to get the printer recognized by it (long geeky

story

about that, too!). Now, everything works again. I prefer

to work on

my Macintosh, but I keep the PC for some chores that I can

only do

with a PC and also to watch TV while I am in my office (the

video

card in the PC also receives cable TV). Because I had what

added up

to an LBL last year, I can caution you to BEWARE OF GEEKS

BEARING

LIFTS!

Get him a Mac, Debbie! (Ceep uses one)

--Steve

At 6:32 PM -0800 1/23/04, Debbie McNeice wrote:

>Cindy, then you are looking UNDER the wrong computers. LOL

If they are MAC's

>(ok...no offense to MAC users <grin>) then try a REAL

computer! ONLY kidding

>guys....no flaming here. My hubby has been bugging me for a

MAC for his

>graphic work. So this is ONLY a joke. <phew>

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At 10:00 AM -0500 1/24/04, The Bucks wrote:

>Geek or not, you're a cool, sweet and caring guy, Steve. We

>all know you are -

Why thanky', Ma'am!

>and we also know you're a little cheeky,

One of my better traits, I must, in all humility, admit...

>and we love you for it, brother dear!

>Sharon in D.C.

Such a nice warm reply on such a cold day in D.C. Thanks again!

--Steve

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At 10:14 AM -0800 1/26/04, Debbie McNeice wrote:

>Ok, you guys are killing ME!!!!!! Here I have an un-employed Geek (he's 55

>at the end of Feb. and no one want to hire him for what he is worth. Some

>how working for $10.00 an hour after making $80,000 a year just doesn't

>thrill him....heck he would work for $40,000 but they keep telling him he is

> " over qualified " .) and a MAC just isn't in the budget. Now, he is on line

>checking out MAC's!

Oooooh, Debbie, that hurts so much to read. The unemployment picture

for older (and even younger) qualified people in this country is a

bleak testament to something gone way wrong. However, I dare not

venture into politics on this list. But, I really feel for your

hubby, and for you in that matter. I can recall one month, back in

the '70's, when I was out of work with no job in sight. I was

crushed, and I kept thinking of my father, who, much like Willie

Lohman ( " Death of a Salesman " ) was finally resigned to failure. I

didn't want to become a failure like my dad, and at that time my

whole sense of self worth was dominated by my employment status. My

then-wife once said to me, " You poor, scared-shitless little man! " I

admit that I was a wreck, but I will never forgive her for that

comment (and I divorced her in 1978). For me, I was darned lucky to

have been at some of the right places at some of the right times, and

I went on to significant professional achievement and managed to

retire, unscathed, a year ago, just shy of my 63rd birthday. DW just

retired at the end of 2003. As Federal Gummint retirees, we both

have pretty-well-guaranteed health insurance and pensions, and though

we will live on about half of what our salaries had been, we have

absolutely no complaints; we count ourselves among the superbly

fortunate. But, I know that if I needed a job today, I would

probably face the same trials that your hubby is going through. From

the way that you write, I sense that you give hubby a lot of

emotional support. That is wonderful of you, and I am sure that his

life is so much the richer for that support, because a man unable to

find work can often feel like a man whose genitals have been taken

from him. It is a hollow, emotionally draining feeling.

>Steve, he was roaring with laughter when I read him your email, since he has

>been there done that.

I am so glad that he can still laugh!

Tell him that at first I cursed Mr. Bill [Gates], because the port on

the router into which the PC had been plugged was the first to go,

and I suspected that it was a PC problem (even installed a new

Ethernet card to no avail) until the port that supported the Mac went

next, etc. I can't begin to tell you how much I learned about the

innards of Windows XP until I convinced myself that the problem had

to lie elsewhere.

>As a matter of fact, we have at least two desk tops

>and a Sony Vaio lap top all networked (the sony is wireless) and we share

>files back and forth. He wants to know when he gets his LIFT? LOLOLOL

Well, I suspect from your chuckle that you already know of a

quick[ie] fix for that one! ()

I sure hope that things get better for hubby and for all the

wonderfully qualified people in this country who want to work, but

just cannot find jobs.

--Steve

[Guest guest]

Don will be 56 in March. Has been unemployed since Dec 02. The

company is now closing, we hear, so we should be glad he got out with

SOMETHING.

Anyway, he interview for a job this week for which he is

overqualified, but was part of what he did. Actually sounds

interesting and the benefits are GREAT. Med ins for $20/month???

There's a quick $800 into my pocket instantly for the cobra which

we're about to lose. But he made about what did, and the pay

from this would be appx equal to his unemployment. The benefits might

be worth it, but um, he sorta has another job. LOL! I don't think I

can work him 16 hrs a day here and then have him give another 10 to

some company who only wants to give him MONEY.

However, as Steve mentioned, the male ego is somewhat involved in a

paycheck. For a born salesman, the size of the paycheck isn't about

what that much money will buy. It's taken years to figure out that

the dollars on his check were more like notches on a belt. 200

notches not so good. 500 notches very good. 10,000 notches, much

better. He was happy in COMMISSIONED sales, which gives this poor

security freak the heebie jeebies. LOL!

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

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RE: Re: Is there Love after WLS (Geekville)

> At 10:14 AM -0800 1/26/04, Debbie McNeice wrote:

> >Ok, you guys are killing ME!!!!!! Here I have an un-employed Geek

(he's 55

> >at the end of Feb. and no one want to hire him for what he is

worth. Some

> >how working for $10.00 an hour after making $80,000 a year just

doesn't

> >thrill him....heck he would work for $40,000 but they keep

telling him he is

> > " over qualified " .) and a MAC just isn't in the budget. Now, he is

on line

> >checking out MAC's!

>

> Oooooh, Debbie, that hurts so much to read. The unemployment

picture

> for older (and even younger) qualified people in this country is a

> bleak testament to something gone way wrong. However, I dare not

> venture into politics on this list. But, I really feel for your

> hubby, and for you in that matter. I can recall one month, back

in

> the '70's, when I was out of work with no job in sight. I was

> crushed, and I kept thinking of my father, who, much like Willie

> Lohman ( " Death of a Salesman " ) was finally resigned to failure. I

> didn't want to become a failure like my dad, and at that time my

> whole sense of self worth was dominated by my employment status.

My

> then-wife once said to me, " You poor, scared-shitless little man! "

I

> admit that I was a wreck, but I will never forgive her for that

> comment (and I divorced her in 1978). For me, I was darned lucky

to

> have been at some of the right places at some of the right times,

and

> I went on to significant professional achievement and managed to

> retire, unscathed, a year ago, just shy of my 63rd birthday. DW

just

> retired at the end of 2003. As Federal Gummint retirees, we both

> have pretty-well-guaranteed health insurance and pensions, and

though

> we will live on about half of what our salaries had been, we have

> absolutely no complaints; we count ourselves among the superbly

> fortunate. But, I know that if I needed a job today, I would

> probably face the same trials that your hubby is going through.

From

> the way that you write, I sense that you give hubby a lot of

> emotional support. That is wonderful of you, and I am sure that

his

> life is so much the richer for that support, because a man unable

to

> find work can often feel like a man whose genitals have been taken

> from him. It is a hollow, emotionally draining feeling.

>

> >Steve, he was roaring with laughter when I read him your email,

since he has

> >been there done that.

>

> I am so glad that he can still laugh!

>

> Tell him that at first I cursed Mr. Bill [Gates], because the port

on

> the router into which the PC had been plugged was the first to go,

> and I suspected that it was a PC problem (even installed a new

> Ethernet card to no avail) until the port that supported the Mac

went

> next, etc. I can't begin to tell you how much I learned about the

> innards of Windows XP until I convinced myself that the problem

had

> to lie elsewhere.

>

> >As a matter of fact, we have at least two desk tops

> >and a Sony Vaio lap top all networked (the sony is wireless) and

we share

> >files back and forth. He wants to know when he gets his LIFT?

LOLOLOL

>

> Well, I suspect from your chuckle that you already know of a

> quick[ie] fix for that one! ()

>

> I sure hope that things get better for hubby and for all the

> wonderfully qualified people in this country who want to work, but

> just cannot find jobs.

>

> --Steve

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

>

>

>

>

>

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-----Original Message-----

From: Steve Goldstein

Oooooh, Debbie, that hurts so much to read. The unemployment picture for

older (and even younger) qualified people in this country is a bleak

testament to something gone way wrong. However, I dare not venture into

politics on this list.

****** Steve I think that you are so right. He will be retiring in March

from Boeing (23 years he did for them). So we won't be so bad off. I think

he just wants a job where he will be appreciated again. Not that I don't

appreciate him....I bless every day we have had together. He keeps asking

why we didn't meet 20 years ago. And why DIDN'T my father bring him home to

meet me (unbelievably we really WERE that close. He was on a submarine that

sat in front of one that my father was working on....AND we were BOTH

attending a local community college at the SAME TIME! Too weird.)

>Steve, he was roaring with laughter when I read him your email, since

>he has been there done that.

I am so glad that he can still laugh!

******* Oh yes, he can still laugh. He was SOOO glad to get laid

off...moral at Boeing was horrible (probably still is) and HE was miserable.

Not to mention he is a bit of a nut case...but he is MY nut case.

Tell him that at first I cursed Mr. Bill [Gates], because the port on the

router into which the PC had been plugged was the first to go, and I

suspected that it was a PC problem (even installed a new Ethernet card to no

avail) until the port that supported the Mac went next, etc. I can't begin

to tell you how much I learned about the innards of Windows XP until I

convinced myself that the problem had to lie elsewhere.

****He was roaring with laughter once again.....and saying SEE I told you we

need a MAC....see what you guys have STARTED.

>As a matter of fact, we have at least two desk tops and a Sony Vaio lap

>top all networked (the sony is wireless) and we share files back and

>forth. He wants to know when he gets his LIFT? LOLOLOL

Well, I suspect from your chuckle that you already know of a quick[ie] fix

for that one! ()

***** Since I live with a man who is perpetually 16....well....we won't even

GO there. <very evil grin>

I sure hope that things get better for hubby and for all the wonderfully

qualified people in this country who want to work, but just cannot find

jobs.

***** knows how to come out on top (ok...pun intended)....he will find

something and it will be the RIGHT something.

Debbie & in Gig Harbor

--Steve

[Guest guest]

Oh man! I am so glad that isn't a salesman. NOT that he couldn't

be.....but that isn't really what he is all about. He putters around

building computers for friends (and I can't get him to charge labor...he

only EVER charges for the parts!)(this last one will get our hair cut ---and

mine colored---for " free " for a VERY long time). He works so hard on the dog

club's webpage that they have NO idea (the local one AND the National one)

just WHAT they are getting for FREE! And yet....still no one wants to hire

this very talented and creative man. Unfortunately for ...I am the

security freak....and this is all driving me nuts....and I can't talk about

it with him....because it makes him feel like I don't believe he can take

care of us. Thank goodness we have (as of March) TWO retirements. And my

medical is separate from his....so we don't have to worry about that. I know

I can get my Kay business going...but I do worry about him. A guy has

to have something worth doing.

Debbie &

in Gig Harbor

(170cm medial)

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http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice

-----Original Message-----

From: Vitalady

For a born salesman, the size of the paycheck isn't about what that much

money will buy. It's taken years to figure out that the dollars on his

check were more like notches on a belt. 200 notches not so good. 500

notches very good. 10,000 notches, much better. He was happy in COMMISSIONED

sales, which gives this poor security freak the heebie jeebies. LOL!

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

[Guest guest]

Ok, you guys are killing ME!!!!!! Here I have an un-employed Geek (he's 55

at the end of Feb. and no one want to hire him for what he is worth. Some

how working for $10.00 an hour after making $80,000 a year just doesn't

thrill him....heck he would work for $40,000 but they keep telling him he is

" over qualified " .) and a MAC just isn't in the budget. Now, he is on line

checking out MAC's!

Steve, he was roaring with laughter when I read him your email, since he has

been there done that. As a matter of fact, we have at least two desk tops

and a Sony Vaio lap top all networked (the sony is wireless) and we share

files back and forth. He wants to know when he gets his LIFT? LOLOLOL

Debbie &

in Gig Harbor

(170cm medial)

ladybostons@...

http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore

http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice

-----Original Message-----

From: sabine

Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:45 PM

I have to agree....buy the guy a MAC.....they're great for graphics....

Cindy

Steve Goldstein wrote:

> I just can't let this rest! I are a [married] GEEK who runs a home

> network with my Macintosh, my PC, my DW's Macintosh Cube (wirelessly

> connected) and a Mac notebook with wireless connectivity, plus a

> networked laser printer. I have spend the better part (actually, it

> was worse, not better!) of yesterday and today diagnosing and fixing

> what turned out to be a home network router that was going bad,

> port-by-port, getting a new one, installing and configuring it, and

> then trying to get the printer recognized by it (long geeky story

> about that, too!). Now, everything works again. I prefer to work on

> my Macintosh, but I keep the PC for some chores that I can only do

> with a PC and also to watch TV while I am in my office (the video card

> in the PC also receives cable TV). Because I had what added up to an

> LBL last year, I can caution you to BEWARE OF GEEKS BEARING LIFTS!

>

> Get him a Mac, Debbie! (Ceep uses one)

>

> --Steve

>