Re:Candida and less fruit?

[Guest guest]

Not everyone has trouble with yeast and perhaps you have a real leg up

here having left fruit alone for awhile, anyhow. Also, there's real

controversy here as to whether or not you need to ditch fruit for awhile.

My doctor is one who says no, so I didn't (good thing as I only have

salad for veggies that work and I cannot eat more than a couple ounces of

protein, max, at a time). Why don't you just see how things go for

awhile?

I started the SCD diet over a week ago. Prior to that, I didn't eat

fruit for several months thinking that I had to never eat fruit with

yeast problem. Then I went to the doc and he said to start the SCD diet

and now I'm eating fruit again. Oh, how I'm LOVING that taste in my mouth

again. But should I take it easy? I'm having like 1/2 banana, 2 kiwis,

and 1 pear a day. I may switch it up some, but for the most part, it's

about like that much daily. I'm sure I'm going overboard... is this a

problem with yeast?

Tamara

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure I have a leg up at all. I got a " female " yeast infection recently

which I haven't had in years. For the most part, all that was under control...

and I got that when I was off fruit

I can only have a few oz. of protein each time too. Why can't you have more than

that? What happens?

I think I will cut down the fruit a tad and see what happens. The other person

posted that I should cook the fruit. I wonder what happens to the fruit when

it's cooked.

Tamara

[Guest guest]

> I'm not sure I have a leg up at all. I got a " female " yeast infection recently

which I haven't had in years. For the most part, all that was under control...

and I got that when I was off fruit

>

> I can only have a few oz. of protein each time too. Why can't you have more

than that? What happens?

>

> I think I will cut down the fruit a tad and see what happens. The other person

posted that I should cook the fruit. I wonder what happens to the fruit when

it's cooked.

Pears are good when you have yeast. Apparently the yeast don't like

their sugar - so you can make pear sauce - which is great for beginners.

You may have had some bacterial die off and now your yeast are surging

and showing up vaginally - they are probably in the rest of your system

as well, but you recognize the signs there more easily.

We have a yeast file in our files section on the website.

Also try to get ahold of some s. boulardii, which

is a non colonizing yeast that eat pathogenic

yeast up for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Mara

[Guest guest]

How about carrot juice and toss a garlic in it. I heard they are good antifungal!

Thanks

Rani

Subject: Re:Candida and less fruit?To: BTVC-SCD Date: Saturday, September 11, 2010, 12:09 PM

I'm not sure I have a leg up at all. I got a "female" yeast infection recently which I haven't had in years. For the most part, all that was under control... and I got that when I was off fruit I can only have a few oz. of protein each time too. Why can't you have more than that? What happens?I think I will cut down the fruit a tad and see what happens. The other person posted that I should cook the fruit. I wonder what happens to the fruit when it's cooked.Tamara

[Guest guest]

never knew that about pears mara - thought green apples were safest - thanks!!

Eileen

>

> > I'm not sure I have a leg up at all. I got a " female " yeast infection

recently which I haven't had in years. For the most part, all that was under

control... and I got that when I was off fruit

> >

> > I can only have a few oz. of protein each time too. Why can't you have more

than that? What happens?

> >

> > I think I will cut down the fruit a tad and see what happens. The other

person posted that I should cook the fruit. I wonder what happens to the fruit

when it's cooked.

>

> Pears are good when you have yeast. Apparently the yeast don't like

> their sugar - so you can make pear sauce - which is great for beginners.

>

> You may have had some bacterial die off and now your yeast are surging

> and showing up vaginally - they are probably in the rest of your system

> as well, but you recognize the signs there more easily.

>

> We have a yeast file in our files section on the website.

> Also try to get ahold of some s. boulardii, which

> is a non colonizing yeast that eat pathogenic

> yeast up for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

>

> Mara

>

[Guest guest]

Tamara,

It sounds like you are already figuring out that we have to test

ourselves. Sorry about that yeast infection; I know most of us can

be sympathetic. The reason for cooking fruit at first is that seeds

and raw fiber can annoy some people's guts. It didn't bother me,

though, and since the only veggies I can have are salad, other than my

Intro days, I have just kept on with my salads. Ditto to fresh fruit

except on bad days or flares. Then of course I am NOT eating salad and I

do cook most stuff.

I had twenty years with literally no protein. When all this started

for me I suddenly lost a lot of food groups, like all animal products,

dairy, eggs, nightshade, gluten. I did fine for several years

(or thought I did) with rice and corn along with beans and lentils.

Then I lost corn and legumes. This started the no-protein period of

my life, and trying to have a smidgeon of energy and manage hypoglycemia

was a nightmare. Eventually a med for leaky gut became available in

pure form and I used that for 18 months and got enough of an improvement

that I could start gingerly try chicken, which I started with literally a

baby bite. I was up to about half an ounce last summer when I

started the diet, and have now worked up to two ounces sometimes. I

suppose I ought to try to work it up some more but I've never been a

heavy protein eater and don't really care for a big steak or a quarter of

a chicken or anything. Growing up in a family of vigorous carnivores,

they all thought I was crazy.

I do take HCl with protein meals. And veggie enzymes. They do help,

but if I eat more than a couple of ounces I just feel too full and a

little sick. So I am thinking at least for now that two ounces IS

my serving size.

It's probably a good idea to play around with your fruit quantities and

also see whether cooking helps you or not. We all do a lot of

experimenting around here.

I'm not sure I have a leg up at all. I got a " female " yeast

infection recently which I haven't had in years. For the most part, all

that was under control... and I got that when I was off fruit

I can only have a few oz. of protein each time too. Why can't you

have more than that? What happens?

I think I will cut down the fruit a tad and see what happens. The

other person posted that I should cook the fruit. I wonder what happens

to the fruit when it's cooked.

Tamara

[Guest guest]

Weyull... Such generalizations can't be made across the board. At least not if

you include me. Honey isn't legal in THIS body. A carb seems to be a carb here

and pears are no less of an offense. However their cousins apples seem to be

less-offensive and oranges MORE... which means that I remain somewhat puzzled.

With me vaginal candida infections seem to start w/ colon over-growth. And, as

Rani suggested, s.boullardi has really helped.

Blessings,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant,

and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled

past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet,

SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! Magnesium/Vits

A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

<<Pears are good when you have yeast. Apparently the yeast don't like

their sugar - so you can make pear sauce - which is great for beginners.

You may have had some bacterial die off and now your yeast are surging

and showing up vaginally - they are probably in the rest of your system

as well, but you recognize the signs there more easily. >>

>

> How about carrot juice and toss a garlic in it.  I heard they are good

antifungal!

> Thanks

> Rani

>

>

[Guest guest]

<<never knew that about pears mara - thought green apples were safest - thanks!!

Eileen>>

My body fully agrees w/ you, Eileen.

>

> >

> > > I'm not sure I have a leg up at all. I got a " female " yeast infection

recently which I haven't had in years. For the most part, all that was under

control... and I got that when I was off fruit

> > >

> > > I can only have a few oz. of protein each time too. Why can't you have

more than that? What happens?

> > >

> > > I think I will cut down the fruit a tad and see what happens. The other

person posted that I should cook the fruit. I wonder what happens to the fruit

when it's cooked.

> >

> > Pears are good when you have yeast. Apparently the yeast don't like their

sugar - so you can make pear sauce - which is great for beginners. You may have

had some bacterial die off and now your yeast are surging and showing up

vaginally - they are probably in the rest of your system as well, but you

recognize the signs there more easily.

We have a yeast file in our files section on the website.

> > Also try to get ahold of some s. boulardii, which

> > is a non colonizing yeast that eat pathogenic

> > yeast up for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

> >

> > Mara

> >

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