Re: Candida and less fruit?

[Guest guest]

In the beginning all fruit and veggies should be peeled seeded and cooked. Is

that how you are eating them? It does sound like alot of fruit every day. I

would cut it back to one as your introducing new foods. The banana needs to be

ripe with lots of spots but it doesn't have to be cooked. Katy

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[Guest guest]

Katy, no, I haven't been seeding and cooking them. I wonder if that means all

fruit, like even kiwi? I can't imagine seeding those, but do we cook all fruit?

Tamara

[Guest guest]

> Katy, no, I haven't been seeding and cooking them. I wonder if that means all

fruit, like even kiwi? I can't imagine seeding those, but do we cook all fruit?

It's a good idea to cook and deseed when you are a beginner (except bananas)

because

it helps de-stress the system. Seeds can have rough bits going down the

intestinal track,

and if there is any inflammation there, or fissures or ulceration, they can

re-scratch the

surface and make things worse.

OTOH, since all this is individual, if you are absolutely sure your digestion is

handling

something well, like kiwis, you can eat them. Maybe try them cooked first

though, even

if you are okay with the seeds. This makes the sugars more attainable and

easier to

digest, which is good for all people with compromised gut.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Tamara

It

all depends on your body. Some folks need to be careful with how many

fruits they eat per day, others have to be more careful with other candida

triggers. All depends on how well your digestion is functioning, and how

severe your candida-related symptoms.

For

example, when I had major issues with a candida overgrowth back when I started

SCD, through trial and error I learned that one serving of fruit (cooked or

diluted juice) every other day was all I could handle, or suffer a surge in

candida-related symptoms. I had to limit or stop eating other candida trigger

foods as well. Eventually I got my candida levels back under control, so

now I can handle one or two servings of cooked or juiced fruit per day.

That is all my digestion and pancreas can handle. But that’s

me.

Unless

you’re bothered by candida-related symptoms, I wouldn’t

worry. If you start getting symptoms, then you know you can cut back a

bit on fruit, or other trigger foods.

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I

started the SCD diet over a week ago. Prior to that, I didn't eat fruit for

several months thinking that I had to never eat fruit with yeast problem. Then

I went to the doc and he said to start the SCD diet and now I'm eating fruit

again. Oh, how I'm LOVING that taste in my mouth again. But should I take it

easy? I'm having like 1/2 banana, 2 kiwis, and 1 pear a day. I may switch it up

some, but for the most part, it's about like that much daily. I'm sure I'm

going overboard... is this a problem with yeast?

Tamara

[Guest guest]

At 06:48 AM 9/11/2010, you wrote:

but do we cook all

fruit?

Yes, at the beginning of the diet.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Tamara, that'd be one kiwi over my daily limit of carbs but everybody's

different. You'll just have to see how you do.

Blessings,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant,

and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled

past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet,

SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! Magnesium/Vits

A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

>

> I started the SCD diet over a week ago. Prior to that, I didn't eat fruit for

several months thinking that I had to never eat fruit with yeast problem. Then I

went to the doc and he said to start the SCD diet and now I'm eating fruit

again. Oh, how I'm LOVING that taste in my mouth again. But should I take it

easy? I'm having like 1/2 banana, 2 kiwis, and 1 pear a day. I may switch it up

some, but for the most part, it's about like that much daily. I'm sure I'm going

overboard... is this a problem with yeast?

>

> Tamara

[Guest guest]

On the other hand the LESS ripe a banana is, the better for me.

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant,

and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled

past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet,

SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! Magnesium/Vits

A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

[Guest guest]

Tamara- so sorry to hear you are feeling badly. Can you get medical help? You

should not be without food for too long. I hope you can get enough liquids in to

keep from dehydrating. If you are feeling this sick, a stronger laxative either

food or medication may be too painful. I hope you will feel better soon.

PJ

>

> I wanted to stop in and say thank you to all who responded. I'm so not well

right now, that I can barely get all this out in the post. I'm suffering so

badly with pancreatic failure and not being able to get hardly any food in me.

Constipation, mini-convulsions from my body considering foods toxic to me, etc.

I have mercury poisoning too. What a mess this body is ya know? Well, I am back

to eating the fruits because if I put meat in my mouth, I'm shaking so bad. I

had about 3 oz. of meat two days ago and about 5 oz. yesterday and let me tell

you, I nearly landed in the hospital from the toxins going throughout my body.

I'm having to do enemas pretty frequently to try to clear my liver, but because

of the constipation, I think I'm moving the toxins from the bile to the rest of

the body, making me more toxified. All I know to do is eat fruit with its fiber,

drink water, and do the enemas to try to move these bowels. I'm drinking my food

(I really would like a Vitamix, but I only have a cheap blender) and blending

cooked carrots, zucchini, celery, apples, and pears, sometimes adding a little

bit of avocado to try to get some fats in me and sometimes a little bit of

really ripe banana. If anyone knows more about what I can do to try to get my

stools to come out, I'm open to hearing it!

>

> Sorry for the rambling and not breaking up my paragraphs... I hate that

myself! lol

>

> Tamara

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your kind words, PJ. I went in for a CAT scan thinking this was

pancretic cancer, but they thought it was all in my head and sent me home with a

script for nausea and to take Tylenol. Nice, 'eh?

Then went to a local doc who is an MD but tries to heal people through

nutrition, thus getting me on the SCD diet. He is the one that ordered the CT

scan to be sure this isn't cancer. Sure enough, it's not.

It is some kind of pancreatic failure (not making enzymes I guess to break down

the food) and I know I have a gallstone now. But, why I can't eat protein? I'm

thinking it's a stomach acid problem. Well, we see him tomorrow, but I don't

know what he will say in regards to the mercury (some docs don't believe that

dangerous metals from dental procedures have much to do with health).

I have been able to eat a lot more food in the latter part of today than the

earlier part. It's taking a long time, but I now am abel to eat cooked and

blended veggies and fruits and I got almost 1 tsp. of Flax Oil in my body today

without horrific reactions.

I'm not dehydrated; had that tested last week and I drink plenty of water, but

now we have found out today that the water is flouridated (ugh!). We are trying

to get a juicer and a Vitamix so I can get these nutrients in me. My husband is

looking at the Champion juicer. Will take a while for delivery and I'm hungry

)

Tamara

[Guest guest]

I wish they would not be so quick to say " all in your head " without more

evaluation. I don't know why you are having a hard time with protein foods.

Seems there would be some way you could eat them.

It is a relief to know you don't have pancreatic cancer- thank goodness- and

good to know you have a supportive doctor. Please keep him informed of all your

symptoms so he can find a good solution.

SCD is very helpful but does not replace good medical care for things like

gallstones which are very painful and may be giving you the spasms and

discomfort.

I hope you feel better soon,

PJ

>

> Thanks for your kind words, PJ. I went in for a CAT scan thinking this was

pancretic cancer, but they thought it was all in my head and sent me home with a

script for nausea and to take Tylenol. Nice, 'eh?

>

> Then went to a local doc who is an MD but tries to heal people through

nutrition, thus getting me on the SCD diet. He is the one that ordered the CT

scan to be sure this isn't cancer. Sure enough, it's not.

>

> It is some kind of pancreatic failure (not making enzymes I guess to break

down the food) and I know I have a gallstone now. But, why I can't eat protein?

I'm thinking it's a stomach acid problem. Well, we see him tomorrow, but I don't

know what he will say in regards to the mercury (some docs don't believe that

dangerous metals from dental procedures have much to do with health).

>

> I have been able to eat a lot more food in the latter part of today than the

earlier part. It's taking a long time, but I now am abel to eat cooked and

blended veggies and fruits and I got almost 1 tsp. of Flax Oil in my body today

without horrific reactions.

>

> I'm not dehydrated; had that tested last week and I drink plenty of water, but

now we have found out today that the water is flouridated (ugh!). We are trying

to get a juicer and a Vitamix so I can get these nutrients in me. My husband is

looking at the Champion juicer. Will take a while for delivery and I'm hungry

)

>

> Tamara

>

[Guest guest]

If anyone knows more about what I can do to try to get my stools to come out,

I'm open to hearing it!

Can you tolerate cooked asparagus? It helps me a lot when I had c.

Frances

[Guest guest]

Tamara, can you tolerate nuts or beans at all? I've been constipated my whole life. I just started working with a nutritionist who has me eating nuts (to lube the intestines) and beans to get everything moving out. You didn't have those foods listed so I don't know how your body would react. I'm so sorry you have to deal with all of this. Some doctors can be soooooo frustrating. UC-C 12/09SCD 1/10Daily, CLO, Magnesium, bromelain, acidophilus Mom of 2 crazy monkeys :-)

If anyone knows more about what I can do to try to get my stools to come out, I'm open to hearing it!

Can you tolerate cooked asparagus? It helps me a lot when I had c.

Frances

[Guest guest]

Tamara, I am so sorry you are having so much trouble and I hope they will

get the pancreas and gallstone problems fixed real soon.

I suppose there are a number of problems that could keep you from eating

protein, but here's what it was for me. I had longer than you want

to KNOW when I couldn't eat any protein at all, not even vegetable.

I produced (then, at least, I think it's some better now) absolutely no

HCl in my stomach but even taking it I couldn't manage protein. Not

until a long course of treatment for leaky gut. After that I was

able to slowly, very slowly, starting with one tiny bite of chicken, work

back up. When I started the diet 13+ months ago I had worked up to

max servings of half an ounce of chicken. Now I am up to two

ounces, which is plenty. I never was a heavy protein eater. I

also can manage beef now, and eggs. But I still can't eat protein

until noon. Later in the day is much better for me.

Good luck,

It is some kind of pancreatic failure (not making enzymes I guess to

break down the food) and I know I have a gallstone now. But, why I can't

eat protein? I'm thinking it's a stomach acid problem. Well, we see him

tomorrow, but I don't know what he will say in regards to the mercury

(some docs don't believe that dangerous metals from dental procedures

have much to do with health).

[Guest guest]

Yeah, Mara. That's TERRIBLE!! Please keep us posted!!!

Artful Carol

> >

> > I wanted to stop in and say thank you to all who responded. I'm so not well

right now, that I can barely get all this out in the post. I'm suffering so

badly with pancreatic failure and not being able to get hardly any food in me.

Constipation, mini-convulsions from my body considering foods toxic to me, etc.

I have mercury poisoning too. What a mess this body is ya know? Well, I am back

to eating the fruits because if I put meat in my mouth, I'm shaking so bad. I

had about 3 oz. of meat two days ago and about 5 oz. yesterday and let me tell

you, I nearly landed in the hospital from the toxins going throughout my body.

I'm having to do enemas pretty frequently to try to clear my liver, but because

of the constipation, I think I'm moving the toxins from the bile to the rest of

the body, making me more toxified. All I know to do is eat fruit with its fiber,

drink water, and do the enemas to try to move these bowels. I'm drinking my food

(I really would like a Vitamix, but I only have a cheap blender) and blending

cooked carrots, zucchini, celery, apples, and pears, sometimes adding a little

bit of avocado to try to get some fats in me and sometimes a little bit of

really ripe banana. If anyone knows more about what I can do to try to get my

stools to come out, I'm open to hearing it!

> >

> > Sorry for the rambling and not breaking up my paragraphs... I hate that

myself! lol

> >

> > Tamara

> >

>

[Guest guest]

<<I wish they would not be so quick to say " all in your head " without more

evaluation.>>

HA! Most of us have heard this - directly or covertly -

MANY times. What an HONEST doc will say under such circumstances is, " It's NOT

in MY head. I don't have a clue! " and leave it at that!!

Artful Carol

>

> I wish they would not be so quick to say " all in your head " without more

evaluation. I don't know why you are having a hard time with protein foods.

Seems there would be some way you could eat them.

[Guest guest]

At 06:42 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote:

I wish they would not be so

quick to say " all in your head " without more

evaluation.

Women frequently get " it's all in your head, " in particular

from male doctors. It's worse if you happen to be fat. Everything

is because you are fat.

For 25 years, I was told that my gut issues were because I was fat. Never

mind that the fat came about after the gut issues started. It wasn't

until I found SCD that I could begin to give up the self-blame and

self-hatred for not " having the will power to take care of

myself. "

We're coming up on the 16th anniversary of the loss of a dear friend who

happened to be plus-sized. Judy had had symptoms for a long time, had

gone to the doctor multiple times, and was told to " stop stuffing

your face and lose some weight and it will all clear up. " She was

told that if she cared about herself, she would exercise some discipline

and lose weight. By the time they admitted that it wasn't her weight, she

was Stage 4 ovarian cancer -- diagnosed in February, she was gone in

September.

Judy actually saved my life with her experience. Slightly less than

three years ago, I became symptomatic with endometrial cancer. I went to

my doctor, and was told to " stop stuffing your face and lose some

weight and it will all clear up. " Thanks to Judy, I didn't accept

that, and went to see a gynecologist -- who diagnosed the cancer.

Last year, I asked my GP about LDN. She did not know anything about it

and was reluctant to prescribe it, but sent me to a rheumatologist. I

waited three months to see him, and then was told, " You have to

expect inflammation when you're fat. " He didn't actually say it, but

implied was " stop stuffing your face and lose some weight and it

will all clear up. " Meanwhile, I was dealing with pain so severe

that I would get up in the morning, feeling okay after a night's sleep,

but within a few hours, I would be feeling nauseated and sick from pain.

Reaching out with one hand to pick up a small mug of water hurt so bad I

cried. Through the good graces of a friend who is a medical practitioner,

I was able to get a prescription for LDN -- and LDN has made a major

difference.

I don't think LDN would have worked nearly as well without SCD, and the

mammoth amounts of healing achieved with diet.

But I do think it's criminal that a person has to beg and beg and beg for

help, only to be dismissed with " it's all in your

head. "

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Marilyn,

Its not just overweight women who are subjected to this. I am 5'8 and 120

pounds. I have mast cell disease which meant that I was having anaphylactic

reactions a lot.I had 6 hour attacks of palpitations, severe vomiting, diarrhea

,shaking,faintness and dizziness for 15 years. A cardiologist once told me that

I should see a psychiatrist.

So it doesn't matter if you are heavy or thin. A bad doctor is a bad doctor!

Take care,

June

P.S. I was a hospice nurse for 8 years and heard several stories of women who

were not taken seriously because they were heavy. One had a football sized

tumor. Don't let doctors minimize your symptoms!

June

> >I wish they would not be so quick to say " all in

> >your head " without more evaluation.

>

> Women frequently get " it's all in your head, " in

> particular from male doctors. It's worse if you

> happen to be fat. Everything is because you are fat.

[Guest guest]

At 03:57 PM 9/14/2010, you wrote:

So it doesn't matter if you are

heavy or thin. A bad doctor is a bad doctor!

No argument there!

And -- my hat's off to you as a hospice nurse. We had hospice for my

Mom's last four months last year, and her nurse was just

spectacular. Made it possible for Mom to stay in her own home,

instead of having to go to a nursing home, which she feared,

terribly.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Tamara,

A while ago posted about a nutritionist named Hurd and her

success with her beans protocol. Your situation sounds a little similar to what

talks about. 's thread starts here.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BTVC-SCD/message/50024 You should google

Hurd's website. She also has a book you can get at amazon.

Good luck!

Dawn

> > >

> > > I wanted to stop in and say thank you to all who responded. I'm so not

well right now, that I can barely get all this out in the post. I'm suffering so

badly with pancreatic failure and not being able to get hardly any food in me.

Constipation, mini-convulsions from my body considering foods toxic to me, etc.

I have mercury poisoning too. What a mess this body is ya know? Well, I am back

to eating the fruits because if I put meat in my mouth, I'm shaking so bad. I

had about 3 oz. of meat two days ago and about 5 oz. yesterday and let me tell

you, I nearly landed in the hospital from the toxins going throughout my body.

I'm having to do enemas pretty frequently to try to clear my liver, but because

of the constipation, I think I'm moving the toxins from the bile to the rest of

the body, making me more toxified. All I know to do is eat fruit with its fiber,

drink water, and do the enemas to try to move these bowels. I'm drinking my food

(I really would like a Vitamix, but I only have a cheap blender) and blending

cooked carrots, zucchini, celery, apples, and pears, sometimes adding a little

bit of avocado to try to get some fats in me and sometimes a little bit of

really ripe banana. If anyone knows more about what I can do to try to get my

stools to come out, I'm open to hearing it!

> > >

> > > Sorry for the rambling and not breaking up my paragraphs... I hate that

myself! lol

> > >

> > > Tamara

> > >

> >

>