Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Arianne A 2:1 ratio conserver isn't adequate though. There are 5:1 and 6:1 conservers readily available so don't let her limit you unnecessarily. There are many great conservers out there. Funny, I was talking to my oxygen driver yesterday and we talked about conservers and the ones they would switch people who were having trouble to. > > Hi folks, just to let you know the therapist was here from my oxygen company. She is the gal who was originally supposed to come the first time. She tested me on a conserver with a 2/1 ration and my sats didn't budge from 96/97, even going up & down stairs. I am so delighted. She also told me that the company will give us (no charge), the use of equipment to take on vacation. My hubby is so pleased. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I did fantastically well on the 2:1 ratio conserver. She wasn't trying to limit me, just trying different ratios for my needs. She was very good. My sat level didn't move from 96 through the whole test, even going up and down the stairs. I just used it to swiffer my upstairs and I only went down to 94, and there were times I know I was holding my breath. When I came back downstairs and shut it off, I was at 93.----- "Bruce" wrote: > > > > Arianne> > A 2:1 ratio conserver isn't adequate though. There are 5:1 and 6:1> conservers readily available so don't let her limit you unnecessarily.> There are many great conservers out there. Funny, I was talking to my> oxygen driver yesterday and we talked about conservers and the ones they> would switch people who were having trouble to.> > > >> > Hi folks, just to let you know the therapist was here from my oxygen> company. She is the gal who was originally supposed to come the first> time. She tested me on a conserver with a 2/1 ration and my sats didn't> budge from 96/97, even going up & down stairs. I am so delighted. She> also told me that the company will give us (no charge), the use of> equipment to take on vacation. My hubby is so pleased.> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 With my D tank, the oxygen will now last me 8 hours. With my M tank it will last me 3 hours.----- "Arianne" wrote: > > > > > I did fantastically well on the 2:1 ratio conserver. She wasn't trying to limit me, just trying different ratios for my needs. She was very good. My sat level didn't move from 96 through the whole test, even going up and down the stairs. I just used it to swiffer my upstairs and I only went down to 94, and there were times I know I was holding my breath. When I came back downstairs and shut it off, I was at 93.> > > > > > ----- "Bruce" wrote: > > > > > > > > Arianne> > > > A 2:1 ratio conserver isn't adequate though. There are 5:1 and 6:1> > conservers readily available so don't let her limit you unnecessarily.> > There are many great conservers out there. Funny, I was talking to my> > oxygen driver yesterday and we talked about conservers and the ones they> > would switch people who were having trouble to.> > > > > > >> > > Hi folks, just to let you know the therapist was here from my oxygen> > company. She is the gal who was originally supposed to come the first> > time. She tested me on a conserver with a 2/1 ration and my sats didn't> > budge from 96/97, even going up & down stairs. I am so delighted. She> > also told me that the company will give us (no charge), the use of> > equipment to take on vacation. My hubby is so pleased.> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Ann, I'm so happy that you know a conserver will work for you. That is indeed wonderful news. The increase in time you'll get out of your tanks will amaze you. If the time comes that you find the 2:1 conserver isn't working for you at least you know now that's 4:1 and 5:1's exist and you can request them. So happy for you! Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 3:29:25 PMSubject: Re: Re: Wonderful News I did fantastically well on the 2:1 ratio conserver. She wasn't trying to limit me, just trying different ratios for my needs. She was very good. My sat level didn't move from 96 through the whole test, even going up and down the stairs. I just used it to swiffer my upstairs and I only went down to 94, and there were times I know I was holding my breath. When I came back downstairs and shut it off, I was at 93. ----- "Bruce" <brucemoreland@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Arianne> > A 2:1 ratio conserver isn't adequate though. There are 5:1 and 6:1> conservers readily available so don't let her limit you unnecessarily.> There are many great conservers out there. Funny, I was talking to my> oxygen driver yesterday and we talked about conservers and the ones they> would switch people who were having trouble to.> > > >> > Hi folks, just to let you know the therapist was here from my oxygen> company. She is the gal who was originally supposed to come the first> time. She tested me on a conserver with a 2/1 ration and my sats didn't> budge from 96/97, even going up & down stairs. I am so delighted. She> also told me that the company will give us (no charge), the use of> equipment to take on vacation. My hubby is so pleased.> >> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Thank you Beth. This conserver will certainly add hours to a tank. My M tank will now last me a whole week at the gym, or take me on an errand or two afterward.----- " Beth" wrote: > > > > > Ann, I'm so happy that you know a conserver will work for you. That is indeed wonderful news. The increase in time you'll get out of your tanks will amaze you. If the time comes that you find the 2:1 conserver isn't working for you at least you know now that's 4:1 and 5:1's exist and you can request them. So happy for you!> Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 > > > > > To: Breathe-Support > Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 3:29:25 PM> Subject: Re: Re: Wonderful News> > > > I did fantastically well on the 2:1 ratio conserver. She wasn't trying to limit me, just trying different ratios for my needs. She was very good. My sat level didn't move from 96 through the whole test, even going up and down the stairs. I just used it to swiffer my upstairs and I only went down to 94, and there were times I know I was holding my breath. When I came back downstairs and shut it off, I was at 93.> > > > > > ----- "Bruce" <brucemoreland@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Arianne> > > > A 2:1 ratio conserver isn't adequate though. There are 5:1 and 6:1> > conservers readily available so don't let her limit you unnecessarily.> > There are many great conservers out there. Funny, I was talking to my> > oxygen driver yesterday and we talked about conservers and the ones they> > would switch people who were having trouble to.> > > > > > >> > > Hi folks, just to let you know the therapist was here from my oxygen> > company. She is the gal who was originally supposed to come the first> > time. She tested me on a conserver with a 2/1 ration and my sats didn't> > budge from 96/97, even going up & down stairs. I am so delighted. She> > also told me that the company will give us (no charge), the use of> > equipment to take on vacation. My hubby is so pleased.> > >> > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Joyce, A conserver is a small device that attaches to the top of a metal oxygen canister or tank. It delivers a bolus of oxygen through the tubing every time you inhale. It is different from a continuous flow regulator which also attaches to the top of the tank but delivers oxygen through the tubing continuously whether you are inhaling or exhaling. A conserver serves the same purpose as the pulse settings on a liquid portable. It delivers oxygen to you only when you inhale. Hope that helps! How are you feeling these days? Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PMSubject: Re: Wonderful News Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 This is an odd question....anybody know what the criteria is for a doctor in deciding whether to put someone on continuous or pulse with their O2?? Take care, hoping everyone has an easy evening. Kathy...fl pf...4/07 Wtg for tx call > > Joyce, > A conserver is a small device that attaches to the top of a metal oxygen canister or tank. It delivers a bolus of oxygen through the tubing every time you inhale. > It is different from a continuous flow regulator which also attaches to the top of the tank but delivers oxygen through the tubing continuously whether you are inhaling or exhaling. > > A conserver serves the same purpose as the pulse settings on a liquid portable. It delivers oxygen to you only when you inhale. > > Hope that helps! How are you feeling these days? >  > Beth > Moderator > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 >  >  > > > > > ________________________________ > > To: Breathe-Support > Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PM > Subject: Re: Wonderful News > >  > Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Kathy In my experience the doctor rarely decides. In general, if pulse or demand work for you satisfactorily, then they are fine to use. If they don't work, then continuous is required. Always, continuous is required for sleep so most use continuous flow at home. There are very few people who can't use some form of pulse or demand when they are at relatively low levels of flow. I'm a person who can't use my pulse very often because of my severe sinus and allergy problems. However, I think if I was on gas instead of liquid there would probably be some form of conserver that would work for me. The demand flow of the Helios equipment just doesn't work adequately. At higher flows most people do find themselves going full time to continuous and at very high flows continuous is the only choice. > > > > Joyce, > > A conserver is a small device that attaches to the top of a metal oxygen canister or tank. It delivers a bolus of oxygen through the tubing every time you inhale. > > It is different from a continuous flow regulator which also attaches to the top of the tank but delivers oxygen through the tubing continuously whether you are inhaling or exhaling. > > > > A conserver serves the same purpose as the pulse settings on a liquid portable. It delivers oxygen to you only when you inhale. > > > > Hope that helps! How are you feeling these days? > >  > > Beth > > Moderator > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 > >  > >  > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: " BlueLiddy@ " BlueLiddy@ > > To: Breathe-Support > > Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PM > > Subject: Re: Wonderful News > > > >  > > Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 now i finally get it!!! yeah Joyce!!! the conserver enables the metal tanks to work on pulse very interesting i have one and didn't even know it the regulator that they gave me for the metal tanks has demand settings and a continuous flow setting when i used the continuous flow setting, the tank was used up very quickly most of the time when i use the metal tanks, i use the demand settings it has taken me 3 years to figure out what you are talking about Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Wonderful NewsTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 5:29 PM Joyce, A conserver is a small device that attaches to the top of a metal oxygen canister or tank. It delivers a bolus of oxygen through the tubing every time you inhale. It is different from a continuous flow regulator which also attaches to the top of the tank but delivers oxygen through the tubing continuously whether you are inhaling or exhaling. A conserver serves the same purpose as the pulse settings on a liquid portable. It delivers oxygen to you only when you inhale. Hope that helps! How are you feeling these days? Beth Moderator Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 From: "BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com" <BlueLiddy (AT) aol (DOT) com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PMSubject: Re: Wonderful News Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Kathy listen to your body [and your oximeter] it will tell you when you need to go from demand to continuous and it will tell you when you need to increase the liters per minute then when you see your doc, you tell the doc what is working best for you the exception is when sleeping, you need continuous flow Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: Wonderful NewsTo: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 6:05 PM KathyIn my experience the doctor rarely decides. In general, if pulse ordemand work for you satisfactorily, then they are fine to use. If theydon't work, then continuous is required. Always, continuous is requiredfor sleep so most use continuous flow at home.There are very few people who can't use some form of pulse or demandwhen they are at relatively low levels of flow. I'm a person who can'tuse my pulse very often because of my severe sinus and allergy problems.However, I think if I was on gas instead of liquid there would probablybe some form of conserver that would work for me. The demand flow of theHelios equipment just doesn't work adequately. At higher flows mostpeople do find themselves going full time to continuous and at very highflows continuous is the only choice.> >> > Joyce,> > A conserver is a small device that attaches to the top of ametal oxygen canister or tank. It delivers a bolus of oxygenthrough the tubing every time you inhale.> > It is different from a continuous flow regulator which also attachesto the top of the tank but delivers oxygen through the tubingcontinuously whether you are inhaling or exhaling.> >> > A conserver serves the same purpose as the pulse settings on aliquid portable. It delivers oxygen to you only when you inhale.> >> > Hope that helps! How are you feeling these days?> > Â> > Beth> > Moderator> > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08> > Â> > Â> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > From: "BlueLiddy@" BlueLiddy@> > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com> > Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PM> > Subject: Re: Wonderful News> >> > Â> > Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Thanks Joyce.........My dr. just put me on the continuous....I have moved from 2lpm to 3lpm. have a easy day. Kathy...fl pf....4/07 Wtg for TX call > > > > > > Joyce, > > > A conserver is a small device that attaches to the top of a > metal oxygen canister or tank. It delivers a bolus of oxygen > through the tubing every time you inhale. > > > It is different from a continuous flow regulator which also attaches > to the top of the tank but delivers oxygen through the tubing > continuously whether you are inhaling or exhaling. > > > > > > A conserver serves the same purpose as the pulse settings on a > liquid portable. It delivers oxygen to you only when you inhale. > > > > > > Hope that helps! How are you feeling these days? > > >  > > > Beth > > > Moderator > > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > From: " BlueLiddy@ " BlueLiddy@ > > > To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com > > > Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wonderful News > > > > > >  > > > Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 I hear yo, Bruce.........I have the big unit for when I am at home, a sequal eclipse and also go thru about 40 of the small tanks every 2 weeks.....for when I am out by myself.......I use the eclipse when I am out with my husband.it is too heavy for me to manuver myself in and out of the car, shopping carts, etc. A couple of times when I was running low on the tanks and wanted to try to push one more stop in, I would switch to pulse.......found out this is NOT a good thing for me to do. I feel like I am not getting enough to breathe all riht. take care and thanks, Kathy....fl PF....4/07 Wtg for TX call > > > > > > Joyce, > > > A conserver is a small device that attaches to the top of a > metal oxygen canister or tank. It delivers a bolus of oxygen > through the tubing every time you inhale. > > > It is different from a continuous flow regulator which also attaches > to the top of the tank but delivers oxygen through the tubing > continuously whether you are inhaling or exhaling. > > > > > > A conserver serves the same purpose as the pulse settings on a > liquid portable. It delivers oxygen to you only when you inhale. > > > > > > Hope that helps! How are you feeling these days? > > >  > > > Beth > > > Moderator > > > Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08 > > >  > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: " BlueLiddy@ " BlueLiddy@ > > > To: Breathe-Support > > > Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PM > > > Subject: Re: Wonderful News > > > > > >  > > > Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 Hi Joyce, I've been wondering how you are doing?To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, January 29, 2010 5:12:09 PMSubject: Re: Wonderful News Please, what is a conservor? Joyce Rudy AZ birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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