Hell - New to group

[Guest guest]

I have been reading on this site for several days. It is all very interesting

and, at this point, overwhelming.

I am interested in buying the book even though I am not as bad as you all are.

I have had diarrhea for a year and I really hurt really bad in the summer, but I

am somewhat better now. I have gone to 2 gastroenterologists ... one was

incompetent... wanted me to take welchol for the diarrhea. I couldn't believe

it ... that was all ... take that med. Think he is working for the drug

company! He did do an endoscopy and colonscopy which turned out be negative,

thank goodness. I decided it might be allergies so I have gone to the best

allergist in the area at Univ of South Florida and he teaches there ... much

know something. Tuesday I get all these needles stuck in, etc., but, oh, if I

can find out some answers. Went to a another gastro last week and he seems a

lot better ... testing for celiac disease, etc., etc., plus malabsorption and

maldigestion problems. Those tests I hope to reveal something. Always have had

problems with my tummy off and on thru my life.

I am older than you all ... had my big 70 this year! That makes me think I am

old ... more than 69. lol

I will order the book today but what is stopping me is I am lactose intolerant.

I see where you all make your own yogurt ... and I would like to eat it but am I

going to have a reaction to it. Now, I can eat storebought yogurt ... no

problem. Last week I had some Greek yogurt which I love and had a reaction. I

take Lactaid when I want to each cheesecake and absolutely no to sour cream.

What about your homemade yogurt? If I don't eat your yogurt, is the program

going to work?

I am sorry to be so lengthly but wanted you to know where I come from.

Sincerely,

PattyAnn

[Guest guest]

Hi PattyAnn,

The homemade yogurt does not contain lactose because it is left to

ferment 24 hours which is enough time for all the lactose to be broken

down by the bacteria into glucose and galactose. Commercial yogurts

contain added milk solids which are full of lactose to make them

thicker and that's why the Greek yogurt gave you a reaction. Trust

me: you'll be able to eat the yogurt, there are plenty of us here who

are extremely lactose-intolerant. There are also nut and coconut milk

yogurt options for those who can't tolerate casein.

If you don't want to wait for your book to arrive, many public

libraries have copies so you could get an idea of what's involved

before you commit to buying your own copy.

fiona

CD

SCD 1998

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:00 PM, pakridge@...

wrote:

>

>

>

> I have been reading on this site for several days. It is all very interesting

and, at this point, overwhelming.

> I am interested in buying the book even though I am not as bad as you all are.

I have had diarrhea for a year and I really hurt really bad in the summer, but I

am somewhat better now. I have gone to 2 gastroenterologists ... one was

incompetent... wanted me to take welchol for the diarrhea. I couldn't believe it

.... that was all ... take that med. Think he is working for the drug company! He

did do an endoscopy and colonscopy which turned out be negative, thank goodness.

I decided it might be allergies so I have gone to the best allergist in the area

at Univ of South Florida and he teaches there ... much know something. Tuesday I

get all these needles stuck in, etc., but, oh, if I can find out some answers.

Went to a another gastro last week and he seems a lot better ... testing for

celiac disease, etc., etc., plus malabsorption and maldigestion problems. Those

tests I hope to reveal something. Always have had problems with my tummy off and

on thru my life.

> I am older than you all ... had my big 70 this year! That makes me think I am

old ... more than 69. lol

>

> I will order the book today but what is stopping me is I am lactose

intolerant. I see where you all make your own yogurt ... and I would like to eat

it but am I going to have a reaction to it. Now, I can eat storebought yogurt

.... no problem. Last week I had some Greek yogurt which I love and had a

reaction. I take Lactaid when I want to each cheesecake and absolutely no to

sour cream.

>

> What about your homemade yogurt? If I don't eat your yogurt, is the program

going to work?

>

> I am sorry to be so lengthly but wanted you to know where I come from.

>

> Sincerely,

> PattyAnn

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi PattyAnn,

Welcome. I'm your age, will be 70 in early December. (Kind of

hard to believe, some days.) I can't do dairy yet, either.

I've been taking L. acidophilus since I started, and am trying to get

brave enough to start the s. boulardii to see if I need that. I tried

dairy after six months and thought I was getting along with it but then

realized I am not. I've been allergic to dairy or lactose intolerant

forever, myself. You might want to try the yogurt, but when you do,

you definitely need to make your own. We make 24 hour yogurt in order to

get most of the lactose out. But some still have troubles. I'm

about to get enough energy to try nut milk yogurt which I think may be

the answer for me. You can also make coconut yogurt. So anyhow, the

answer is, yogurt is great if you can handle it without problems but you

can do the diet without it.

I have been reading on this site for several days. It is all very

interesting and, at this point, overwhelming. I am interested in buying the book even though I am not as bad as you

all are. I have had diarrhea for a year and I really hurt really bad in

the summer, but I am somewhat better now. I have gone to 2

gastroenterologists ... one was incompetent... wanted me to take welchol

for the diarrhea. I couldn't believe it ... that was all ... take that

med. Think he is working for the drug company! He did do an endoscopy and

colonscopy which turned out be negative, thank goodness. I decided it

might be allergies so I have gone to the best allergist in the area at

Univ of South Florida and he teaches there ... much know something.

Tuesday I get all these needles stuck in, etc., but, oh, if I can find

out some answers. Went to a another gastro last week and he seems a lot

better ... testing for celiac disease, etc., etc., plus malabsorption and

maldigestion problems. Those tests I hope to reveal something. Always

have had problems with my tummy off and on thru my life. I am older than you all ... had my big 70 this year! That makes me

think I am old ... more than 69. lol

I will order the book today but what is stopping me is I am lactose

intolerant. I see where you all make your own yogurt ... and I would like

to eat it but am I going to have a reaction to it. Now, I can eat

storebought yogurt ... no problem. Last week I had some Greek yogurt

which I love and had a reaction. I take Lactaid when I want to each

cheesecake and absolutely no to sour cream.

What about your homemade yogurt? If I don't eat your yogurt, is the

program going to work?

[Guest guest]

PattyAnn,

I thought it might be helpful to share some of my story as, like you, I am older

(63) than most people in the group -- and I think that may have affected my

healing rate.

Like you, I have had digestive issues all my life: told I had " spastic colon "

(IBS) in my twenties, occasional bouts of gastro-enteritis, lifetime of

constipation. Apparently, I also had a lifetime intolerance to gluten that was

causing damage to my intestinal tract but didn't have dramatic symptoms until

six years ago (probably brought on by several courses of antibiotics for

persistent urinary tract infections).

After a year in a downward cycle of malabsorption issues, a nutritionist friend

suggested I might be " allergic " to wheat and my stools improved after

eliminating wheat products but I still had my most troublesome symptom which was

horrific pain starting with my first meal and worsening during the day until I

sometimes thought I would lose consciousness.

I consider that pain my best friend now as that is what drove me to to the

internet where I found some reference to SCD. And, unlike so many people who

seem to have no immediate feedback when they ingest an illegal, I can always

tell if there's something amiss (starch is usually the culprit with me).

I will tell you, though, that my progress was very slow. For the first two

years, I would react to eggs and any kind of dairy including the yoghurt.

Through much trial and error, I realized that I was having a histamine reaction

to eggs and dairy -- probably a result of my poor damaged gut leaking proteins

into my body. But now I eat eggs and yoghurt every day and aged cheese almost as

frequently.

After over five years on SCD, I still have trouble with some legal foods -- e.g.

I can't handle too much fruit, honey or too much of anything with a lot of

fiber. (Actually, this was the first summer I could handle raw unpeeled fruit

with no pain.) But I can have about any legal food in moderation. I don't expect

to ever be able to eat starches again but, one of the great things about SCD is

I no longer have what I would call cravings for any illegal foods. Of course,

I'd like to be able to have a chocolate chip cookie (one of my old favorites)

but it doesn't bother me to see other people eating them and I'm never tempted

to " cheat " .

Although my progress has been slow compared to so many others, I think I am

healthier now than I have ever been. As you know, as we get older, time seems to

pass more quickly -- and it's always so satisfying to think back to where you

were six months ago and know that you are getting better in ways you can't even

see. (And there is not much of that going on as we age )

Good luck to you.

Nan

IBS, gluten intolerance

SCD 5+ years

[Guest guest]

Thanks Patti-Ann,

Your story sounds like mine.It gives me hope.

Have a great day,

June

>

> PattyAnn,

>

> I thought it might be helpful to share some of my story as, like you, I am

older (63) than most people in the group -- and I think that may have affected

my healing rate.

>

> Like you, I have had digestive issues all my life: told I had " spastic colon "

(IBS) in my twenties, occasional bouts of gastro-enteritis, lifetime of

constipation. Apparently, I also had a lifetime intolerance to gluten that was

causing damage to my intestinal tract but didn't have dramatic symptoms until

six years ago (probably brought on by several courses of antibiotics for

persistent urinary tract infections).

>

> After a year in a downward cycle of malabsorption issues, a nutritionist

friend suggested I might be " allergic " to wheat and my stools improved after

eliminating wheat products but I still had my most troublesome symptom which was

horrific pain starting with my first meal and worsening during the day until I

sometimes thought I would lose consciousness.

>

> I consider that pain my best friend now as that is what drove me to to the

internet where I found some reference to SCD. And, unlike so many people who

seem to have no immediate feedback when they ingest an illegal, I can always

tell if there's something amiss (starch is usually the culprit with me).

>

> I will tell you, though, that my progress was very slow. For the first two

years, I would react to eggs and any kind of dairy including the yoghurt.

Through much trial and error, I realized that I was having a histamine reaction

to eggs and dairy -- probably a result of my poor damaged gut leaking proteins

into my body. But now I eat eggs and yoghurt every day and aged cheese almost as

frequently.

>

> After over five years on SCD, I still have trouble with some legal foods --

e.g. I can't handle too much fruit, honey or too much of anything with a lot of

fiber. (Actually, this was the first summer I could handle raw unpeeled fruit

with no pain.) But I can have about any legal food in moderation. I don't expect

to ever be able to eat starches again but, one of the great things about SCD is

I no longer have what I would call cravings for any illegal foods. Of course,

I'd like to be able to have a chocolate chip cookie (one of my old favorites)

but it doesn't bother me to see other people eating them and I'm never tempted

to " cheat " .

>

> Although my progress has been slow compared to so many others, I think I am

healthier now than I have ever been. As you know, as we get older, time seems to

pass more quickly -- and it's always so satisfying to think back to where you

were six months ago and know that you are getting better in ways you can't even

see. (And there is not much of that going on as we age )

>

> Good luck to you.

>

> Nan

>

> IBS, gluten intolerance

> SCD 5+ years

>

[Guest guest]

At 01:00 PM 9/11/2010, you wrote:

I will order the book today but

what is stopping me is I am lactose intolerant. I see where you all make

your own yogurt ... and I would like to eat it but am I going to have a

reaction to it. Now, I can eat storebought yogurt ... no problem. Last

week I had some Greek yogurt which I love and had a reaction. I take

Lactaid when I want to each cheesecake and absolutely no to sour

cream.

What about your homemade yogurt? If I don't eat your yogurt, is the

program going to work?

Welcome to the list!

LIke you, I thought I wasn't all that sick when I started SCD. But over

the course of time, I learned that gut issues can cause all sorts of

subtle health issues.

SCD yogurt is fermented for 24 hours to remove all the lactose. If you

are uncertain if all the lactose is removed, you can, once the fermenting

is finished, at some lactaid or lacteeze drops to the yogurt, stir it

around and let it sit for an additional 24 hours to make sure all the

lactose is out -- but generally, SCD yogurt is fine where lactose is

concerned.

Some people have issues with dairy and choose to do SCD dairy free, but

that's not a requirement.

Some people find it works better to go with a probiotic than with yogurt,

although in general, getting your probiotics from whole foods is better

than popping a pill.

Grab your copy of BTVC, read up, and then join the rest of us in taking

control of our health!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

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