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> CBS early morning news just did a story on the down side of

gastric

> bypass. They said that surgeons often tell patients that the

> mortality rate for the surgery is 1 in 500 (I've heard 1 in 200).

> They said a new study actually showed it to be 1 in 50. But, they

> attributed that to a lot of new, inexperienced doctors jumping on

the

> bandwagon.

============ That is a major concern of mine, also. I have two

friends who had GB's by inexperienced surgeons jumping on the

bandwagon. These doctors want to learn how to perform this surgery

and the learning curve is steep, but they have to learn somewhere,

so it is on the patients. Many are stepping right into the Lap

procedure which is a greater learning curve still.

The money for them is intoxicating and they are jumping in without

support staff, nutritionist or the correct aftercare information.

Neither of the two surgeons mentioned above had any type of follow-

up care in place or support meetings for patients.

Both of my friends have gotten all of their after-care information

from me or this list. They have literally been dropped with no

mention of yearly bloodwork, vitamins regimens or necessities, yadda

yadda.

Darn shame.

Carol G

(Whose pet peeve is STILL how the fat community is so abused and

taken advantage of because the perception is we open our pockets to

anything that even smacks of easy weight loss. Next thing you know,

some quack will put a diet pill inside a SF Peep and make a fortune.)

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Yes, Amber! That's exactly what's happening all over the country. The law

protects the doctors, and it's very hard for patients to find out if the doctor

has lost any malpractice suits or been sanctioned somehow. And, to the best

of my knowledge, the hospitals don't even have access to much of that

information. All they have is word of mouth, and if it's across state lines,

that's a

long way to travel.

Again, that recent case of the nurse in NJ who killed all those people, he

was thrown out of several hospitals in PA (right next door to NJ), had been

brought up on murder charges, etc., and the hospital had no knowledge of

it....very, very scary.

in NJ

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> , I do not know about " protected class " but let me tell you what

> happened here in FL. There was an orthopedic surgeon - really, really

> bad. The other ortho surgeons at the hosp put pressure on the hosp to

> pull his surgical privileges after multiple malpractice suits - the hosp

> did so and the bad doc sued the hosp under the fair trade premise, he

> won!!! He is now practicing in TX and the law prevents FL from telling

> TX all the prolems he has had here!! Scary? You betcha.

> Amber/FL - a neurotic RN

>

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There is a website where you can check on doctors/complaints. But I can't

remember where it is right now. Maybe it will come to me later. <VBG>

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Upsetting story on CBS news

CBS early morning news just did a story on the down side of gastric

bypass. They said that surgeons often tell patients that the

mortality rate for the surgery is 1 in 500 (I've heard 1 in 200).

They said a new study actually showed it to be 1 in 50. But, they

attributed that to a lot of new, inexperienced doctors jumping on the

bandwagon. They focused on a woman who had severe complications,

ended up on life support, etc. The good news is that she came

through, and is now healthy & happy.

I don't know who or where they got this study from, but it's scary.

What even more upsetting is that I'm a Real Estate Appraiser, and

it's very easy to check if any people in my profession have been

sanctioned or have lost their license...it's right online at the

National Registry. But, it's often impossible to check if medical

professionals have had any lawsuits amd/or lost their ability to

practice medicine in any state....case in point, that nurse who was

recently arrested in NJ for killing patients, and who had been fired

from several out-of-state hospitals for suspicious behavior, even

having had charges filed in some states.

But, I could go on & on about the medical profession....

in NJ

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I believe each state has their own website. Try looking under Department of

Health and there should be a section for doctors/complaints.

Tina T.

Upsetting story on CBS news

CBS early morning news just did a story on the down side of gastric

bypass. They said that surgeons often tell patients that the

mortality rate for the surgery is 1 in 500 (I've heard 1 in 200).

They said a new study actually showed it to be 1 in 50. But, they

attributed that to a lot of new, inexperienced doctors jumping on the

bandwagon. They focused on a woman who had severe complications,

ended up on life support, etc. The good news is that she came

through, and is now healthy & happy.

I don't know who or where they got this study from, but it's scary.

What even more upsetting is that I'm a Real Estate Appraiser, and

it's very easy to check if any people in my profession have been

sanctioned or have lost their license...it's right online at the

National Registry. But, it's often impossible to check if medical

professionals have had any lawsuits amd/or lost their ability to

practice medicine in any state....case in point, that nurse who was

recently arrested in NJ for killing patients, and who had been fired

from several out-of-state hospitals for suspicious behavior, even

having had charges filed in some states.

But, I could go on & on about the medical profession....

in NJ

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I could be wrong, but I believe they're a " protected class. " If

there is a website, it has to be very new. That's why a doctor can

lose his license in one state, and just move to a different state and

practice again. Their complaint and lawsuit records were kept very

private. There was never a national database to prevent this fraud,

unless it's been developed recently. I sure hope so.

in NJ

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> There is a website where you can check on doctors/complaints. But I

can't remember where it is right now. Maybe it will come to me later.

<

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, I do not know about " protected class " but let me tell you what

happened here in FL. There was an orthopedic surgeon - really, really

bad. The other ortho surgeons at the hosp put pressure on the hosp to

pull his surgical privileges after multiple malpractice suits - the hosp

did so and the bad doc sued the hosp under the fair trade premise, he

won!!! He is now practicing in TX and the law prevents FL from telling

TX all the prolems he has had here!! Scary? You betcha.

Amber/FL - a neurotic RN

Re: Upsetting story on CBS news

I could be wrong, but I believe they're a " protected class. " If

there is a website, it has to be very new. That's why a doctor can

lose his license in one state, and just move to a different state and

practice again. Their complaint and lawsuit records were kept very

private. There was never a national database to prevent this fraud,

unless it's been developed recently. I sure hope so.

in NJ

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> There is a website where you can check on doctors/complaints. But I

can't remember where it is right now. Maybe it will come to me later.

<

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I want to thank everyone for the cards and letters while I was hospitalized

this past 115 days. I think I hold the record right now for days in the

hospital and complications.

For those who haven’t had weight loss surgery, about to have surgery or even

recently had surgery, I want to urge you to not be fearful. My experience is

not typical and I am a dinosaur here. I had an open RNY when I weighed 685

pounds. I was a candidate for death and a walking time bomb. The truth is I

couldn’t walk and talk at the same time, I couldn’t wipe my own butt. Now

three years and eight surgeries later I am healthier, happier and today, I

would have WLS all over again.

A friend asked me today if I am going to survive WLS. The answer is no –

none of us will. The real question is how long will I survive after the

surgery and what will be the quality of my life. WLS is a life change, it is

a tool and whether we use it wisely or eat right past the surgery, once we

have the surgery it is a lifetime change. For the first time in twenty years

I am under 400 pounds and it feels great.

As far as length of survival, my complications were caused by factors other

than the surgery and the doctors have fought hard to save my life. I am

absolutely comfortable with whatever outcome God allows from here forward.

If I died today I would want everyone in the group to know how much I love

and appreciate them and how sure I was that weight loss surgery was the

right choice for me. Fortunately OPEN-RNY is seldom done anymore and the

chances anyone else will have my kind of complications is very small. I

have no hesitation in recommending Dr , Dr Scarbough and their

team to anyone.

I have rambled enough. I just wanted you all to know I am home from the

hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a very

wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year!

Davenport

OPEN-RNY – May 2000 Dr Moody

Revised to distal RNY October, 2003 – Dr

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Welcome back, ! We've missed you. So glad that you are finally out of

the hospital, and in time for Christmas, too.

Keep on plugging away - you are a survivor and a great example for us all!

---

365/194/160

Lap RnY, Distal - Dr. s

Vanderbilt University Hospital

Surgery date June 3, 2002

----- Original Message -----

I just wanted you all to know I am home from the

> hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a very

> wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year!

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Our dear ,

May God bless you abundantly this Christmas season and give you a

peaceful and healthy new year. You are in my prayers and I am very

thankful for you and all of your participation on this list.

" Life is a brief mist " it says in the bible. Each day is a gift and

since WLS I am grateful for each one that is so extremely different

then pre-WLS. We have life again.

My resolution for the New Year is to maintain yet another year. The

hardest task I ever got assigned. Yet I realize in my heart

that " Nothing taste as good as thin taste. " (Old WW adage)

Much love,

Carol G.

> I want to thank everyone for the cards and letters while I was

hospitalized

> this past 115 days. I think I hold the record right now for days

in the

> hospital and complications.

>

> For those who haven't had weight loss surgery, about to have

surgery or even

> recently had surgery, I want to urge you to not be fearful. My

experience is

> not typical and I am a dinosaur here. I had an open RNY when I

weighed 685

> pounds. I was a candidate for death and a walking time bomb. The

truth is I

> couldn't walk and talk at the same time, I couldn't wipe my own

butt. Now

> three years and eight surgeries later I am healthier, happier and

today, I

> would have WLS all over again.

>

> A friend asked me today if I am going to survive WLS. The answer

is no –

> none of us will. The real question is how long will I survive

after the

> surgery and what will be the quality of my life. WLS is a life

change, it is

> a tool and whether we use it wisely or eat right past the surgery,

once we

> have the surgery it is a lifetime change. For the first time in

twenty years

> I am under 400 pounds and it feels great.

>

> As far as length of survival, my complications were caused by

factors other

> than the surgery and the doctors have fought hard to save my life.

I am

> absolutely comfortable with whatever outcome God allows from here

forward.

> If I died today I would want everyone in the group to know how

much I love

> and appreciate them and how sure I was that weight loss surgery

was the

> right choice for me. Fortunately OPEN-RNY is seldom done anymore

and the

> chances anyone else will have my kind of complications is very

small. I

> have no hesitation in recommending Dr , Dr Scarbough

and their

> team to anyone.

>

> I have rambled enough. I just wanted you all to know I am home

from the

> hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a

very

> wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year!

>

> Davenport

> OPEN-RNY – May 2000 Dr Moody

> Revised to distal RNY October, 2003 – Dr

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Well said, , and welcome home! I hope your holiday season and

future remains bright and healthy.

Cindy in VA

lap RNY 2/8/02

> I want to thank everyone for the cards and letters while I was

hospitalized

> this past 115 days. I think I hold the record right now for days in

the

> hospital and complications.

>

>> would have WLS all over again.

>

>> If I died today I would want everyone in the group to know how

much I love

> and appreciate them and how sure I was that weight loss surgery was

the

> right choice for me. Fortunately OPEN-RNY is seldom done anymore

and the

> chances anyone else will have my kind of complications is very

small. I

> have no hesitation in recommending Dr , Dr Scarbough and

their

> team to anyone.

>

> I have rambled enough. I just wanted you all to know I am home from

the

> hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a

very

> wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year!

>

> Davenport

> OPEN-RNY – May 2000 Dr Moody

> Revised to distal RNY October, 2003 – Dr

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, glad to hear from you. We were all thinking of you. Hope you

have a wonderful Christmas and a healthier new year.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/356/hoping for close to 200

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