Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 > CBS early morning news just did a story on the down side of gastric > bypass. They said that surgeons often tell patients that the > mortality rate for the surgery is 1 in 500 (I've heard 1 in 200). > They said a new study actually showed it to be 1 in 50. But, they > attributed that to a lot of new, inexperienced doctors jumping on the > bandwagon. ============ That is a major concern of mine, also. I have two friends who had GB's by inexperienced surgeons jumping on the bandwagon. These doctors want to learn how to perform this surgery and the learning curve is steep, but they have to learn somewhere, so it is on the patients. Many are stepping right into the Lap procedure which is a greater learning curve still. The money for them is intoxicating and they are jumping in without support staff, nutritionist or the correct aftercare information. Neither of the two surgeons mentioned above had any type of follow- up care in place or support meetings for patients. Both of my friends have gotten all of their after-care information from me or this list. They have literally been dropped with no mention of yearly bloodwork, vitamins regimens or necessities, yadda yadda. Darn shame. Carol G (Whose pet peeve is STILL how the fat community is so abused and taken advantage of because the perception is we open our pockets to anything that even smacks of easy weight loss. Next thing you know, some quack will put a diet pill inside a SF Peep and make a fortune.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 Yes, Amber! That's exactly what's happening all over the country. The law protects the doctors, and it's very hard for patients to find out if the doctor has lost any malpractice suits or been sanctioned somehow. And, to the best of my knowledge, the hospitals don't even have access to much of that information. All they have is word of mouth, and if it's across state lines, that's a long way to travel. Again, that recent case of the nurse in NJ who killed all those people, he was thrown out of several hospitals in PA (right next door to NJ), had been brought up on murder charges, etc., and the hospital had no knowledge of it....very, very scary. in NJ ************************** In a message dated 12/20/2003 6:08:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, rehab2@... writes: > , I do not know about " protected class " but let me tell you what > happened here in FL. There was an orthopedic surgeon - really, really > bad. The other ortho surgeons at the hosp put pressure on the hosp to > pull his surgical privileges after multiple malpractice suits - the hosp > did so and the bad doc sued the hosp under the fair trade premise, he > won!!! He is now practicing in TX and the law prevents FL from telling > TX all the prolems he has had here!! Scary? You betcha. > Amber/FL - a neurotic RN > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 There is a website where you can check on doctors/complaints. But I can't remember where it is right now. Maybe it will come to me later. <VBG> Jac Friends are angels who lift you up, when your wings have forgotten how to fly. http://www.pictureitdigitaldesigns.com/ http://members.cox.net/XXXFARMPAINTS mail to: jholdaway@... Upsetting story on CBS news CBS early morning news just did a story on the down side of gastric bypass. They said that surgeons often tell patients that the mortality rate for the surgery is 1 in 500 (I've heard 1 in 200). They said a new study actually showed it to be 1 in 50. But, they attributed that to a lot of new, inexperienced doctors jumping on the bandwagon. They focused on a woman who had severe complications, ended up on life support, etc. The good news is that she came through, and is now healthy & happy. I don't know who or where they got this study from, but it's scary. What even more upsetting is that I'm a Real Estate Appraiser, and it's very easy to check if any people in my profession have been sanctioned or have lost their license...it's right online at the National Registry. But, it's often impossible to check if medical professionals have had any lawsuits amd/or lost their ability to practice medicine in any state....case in point, that nurse who was recently arrested in NJ for killing patients, and who had been fired from several out-of-state hospitals for suspicious behavior, even having had charges filed in some states. But, I could go on & on about the medical profession.... in NJ Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 I believe each state has their own website. Try looking under Department of Health and there should be a section for doctors/complaints. Tina T. Upsetting story on CBS news CBS early morning news just did a story on the down side of gastric bypass. They said that surgeons often tell patients that the mortality rate for the surgery is 1 in 500 (I've heard 1 in 200). They said a new study actually showed it to be 1 in 50. But, they attributed that to a lot of new, inexperienced doctors jumping on the bandwagon. They focused on a woman who had severe complications, ended up on life support, etc. The good news is that she came through, and is now healthy & happy. I don't know who or where they got this study from, but it's scary. What even more upsetting is that I'm a Real Estate Appraiser, and it's very easy to check if any people in my profession have been sanctioned or have lost their license...it's right online at the National Registry. But, it's often impossible to check if medical professionals have had any lawsuits amd/or lost their ability to practice medicine in any state....case in point, that nurse who was recently arrested in NJ for killing patients, and who had been fired from several out-of-state hospitals for suspicious behavior, even having had charges filed in some states. But, I could go on & on about the medical profession.... in NJ Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 I could be wrong, but I believe they're a " protected class. " If there is a website, it has to be very new. That's why a doctor can lose his license in one state, and just move to a different state and practice again. Their complaint and lawsuit records were kept very private. There was never a national database to prevent this fraud, unless it's been developed recently. I sure hope so. in NJ *********************** > There is a website where you can check on doctors/complaints. But I can't remember where it is right now. Maybe it will come to me later. < Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2003 Report Share Posted December 20, 2003 , I do not know about " protected class " but let me tell you what happened here in FL. There was an orthopedic surgeon - really, really bad. The other ortho surgeons at the hosp put pressure on the hosp to pull his surgical privileges after multiple malpractice suits - the hosp did so and the bad doc sued the hosp under the fair trade premise, he won!!! He is now practicing in TX and the law prevents FL from telling TX all the prolems he has had here!! Scary? You betcha. Amber/FL - a neurotic RN Re: Upsetting story on CBS news I could be wrong, but I believe they're a " protected class. " If there is a website, it has to be very new. That's why a doctor can lose his license in one state, and just move to a different state and practice again. Their complaint and lawsuit records were kept very private. There was never a national database to prevent this fraud, unless it's been developed recently. I sure hope so. in NJ *********************** > There is a website where you can check on doctors/complaints. But I can't remember where it is right now. Maybe it will come to me later. < Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 I want to thank everyone for the cards and letters while I was hospitalized this past 115 days. I think I hold the record right now for days in the hospital and complications. For those who haven’t had weight loss surgery, about to have surgery or even recently had surgery, I want to urge you to not be fearful. My experience is not typical and I am a dinosaur here. I had an open RNY when I weighed 685 pounds. I was a candidate for death and a walking time bomb. The truth is I couldn’t walk and talk at the same time, I couldn’t wipe my own butt. Now three years and eight surgeries later I am healthier, happier and today, I would have WLS all over again. A friend asked me today if I am going to survive WLS. The answer is no – none of us will. The real question is how long will I survive after the surgery and what will be the quality of my life. WLS is a life change, it is a tool and whether we use it wisely or eat right past the surgery, once we have the surgery it is a lifetime change. For the first time in twenty years I am under 400 pounds and it feels great. As far as length of survival, my complications were caused by factors other than the surgery and the doctors have fought hard to save my life. I am absolutely comfortable with whatever outcome God allows from here forward. If I died today I would want everyone in the group to know how much I love and appreciate them and how sure I was that weight loss surgery was the right choice for me. Fortunately OPEN-RNY is seldom done anymore and the chances anyone else will have my kind of complications is very small. I have no hesitation in recommending Dr , Dr Scarbough and their team to anyone. I have rambled enough. I just wanted you all to know I am home from the hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a very wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year! Davenport OPEN-RNY – May 2000 Dr Moody Revised to distal RNY October, 2003 – Dr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 , You must have ESP. I was thinking about you today. Wondering how you were doing. Glad to see you are still alive and KICKING! And here for Christmas. Good for you! Thank you so much for writing to the list. Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 Welcome back, ! We've missed you. So glad that you are finally out of the hospital, and in time for Christmas, too. Keep on plugging away - you are a survivor and a great example for us all! --- 365/194/160 Lap RnY, Distal - Dr. s Vanderbilt University Hospital Surgery date June 3, 2002 ----- Original Message ----- I just wanted you all to know I am home from the > hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a very > wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Our dear , May God bless you abundantly this Christmas season and give you a peaceful and healthy new year. You are in my prayers and I am very thankful for you and all of your participation on this list. " Life is a brief mist " it says in the bible. Each day is a gift and since WLS I am grateful for each one that is so extremely different then pre-WLS. We have life again. My resolution for the New Year is to maintain yet another year. The hardest task I ever got assigned. Yet I realize in my heart that " Nothing taste as good as thin taste. " (Old WW adage) Much love, Carol G. > I want to thank everyone for the cards and letters while I was hospitalized > this past 115 days. I think I hold the record right now for days in the > hospital and complications. > > For those who haven't had weight loss surgery, about to have surgery or even > recently had surgery, I want to urge you to not be fearful. My experience is > not typical and I am a dinosaur here. I had an open RNY when I weighed 685 > pounds. I was a candidate for death and a walking time bomb. The truth is I > couldn't walk and talk at the same time, I couldn't wipe my own butt. Now > three years and eight surgeries later I am healthier, happier and today, I > would have WLS all over again. > > A friend asked me today if I am going to survive WLS. The answer is no – > none of us will. The real question is how long will I survive after the > surgery and what will be the quality of my life. WLS is a life change, it is > a tool and whether we use it wisely or eat right past the surgery, once we > have the surgery it is a lifetime change. For the first time in twenty years > I am under 400 pounds and it feels great. > > As far as length of survival, my complications were caused by factors other > than the surgery and the doctors have fought hard to save my life. I am > absolutely comfortable with whatever outcome God allows from here forward. > If I died today I would want everyone in the group to know how much I love > and appreciate them and how sure I was that weight loss surgery was the > right choice for me. Fortunately OPEN-RNY is seldom done anymore and the > chances anyone else will have my kind of complications is very small. I > have no hesitation in recommending Dr , Dr Scarbough and their > team to anyone. > > I have rambled enough. I just wanted you all to know I am home from the > hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a very > wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year! > > Davenport > OPEN-RNY – May 2000 Dr Moody > Revised to distal RNY October, 2003 – Dr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Well said, , and welcome home! I hope your holiday season and future remains bright and healthy. Cindy in VA lap RNY 2/8/02 > I want to thank everyone for the cards and letters while I was hospitalized > this past 115 days. I think I hold the record right now for days in the > hospital and complications. > >> would have WLS all over again. > >> If I died today I would want everyone in the group to know how much I love > and appreciate them and how sure I was that weight loss surgery was the > right choice for me. Fortunately OPEN-RNY is seldom done anymore and the > chances anyone else will have my kind of complications is very small. I > have no hesitation in recommending Dr , Dr Scarbough and their > team to anyone. > > I have rambled enough. I just wanted you all to know I am home from the > hospital, smiling broadly and on top of the world. You all have a very > wonderful Christmas and a joyous New Year! > > Davenport > OPEN-RNY – May 2000 Dr Moody > Revised to distal RNY October, 2003 – Dr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 , glad to hear from you. We were all thinking of you. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas and a healthier new year. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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