Re: Re: almond butter question

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Actually - the way I learned it - that's not true for roasted nuts - because

these are then immediately

ground into nut butter - so no need to add preservatives which are only added to

products that may

have a long shelf life.

However, in the case of WF, where you can grind your own, but they don't grind

them immediately,

it is possible that some kind of preservative has been added.

So for the most part, in bottled jars, this is okay - when it is grind your own,

I'm not sure - but perhaps

it is better to be cautious and not use it or to ask first.

OTOH, I've used those butters occasionally because the whole thing slipped my

mind and I never

reacted. And I believe Misty has as well - maybe she'll chime in and say if she

has - so maybe

they are okay.

Mara

> Your instincts were correct- it is NOT okay to use nut butters made from

roasted nuts. The process they use when they roast them involves using starches

to keep everything separated.

> You can give your hubby the raw walnut/raw cashew butter.

> Looks like you'll have to eat up that delicious almond butter yourself!!!

> -Joanna

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>> I bought some almond butter yesterday from whole foods. You grind it

your-self there at the store. But, I remember it said whole dry roasted almonds.

Is this o.k. I need to know before I give to hubby today.?I also bought walnut

butter with cashews, its in a jar (ingreds 100%Organic Ray Walnuts and 100%

Organic raw Cashews)I can save this walnut one for later on but I need to know I

am worried about the Dry Roasted Almonds I ground up ?

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> Actually - the way I learned it - that's not true for roasted nuts -

this is a little unclear - what I meant to say is that this is not true for

nuts that are roasted which are going to be used for butter, as opposed to

packaging. And so on with the rest of the post...

> because these are then immediately

> ground into nut butter - so no need to add preservatives which are only added

to products that may

> have a long shelf life.

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> However, in the case of WF, where you can grind your own, but they don't grind

them immediately,

> it is possible that some kind of preservative has been added.

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> So for the most part, in bottled jars, this is okay - when it is grind your

own, I'm not sure - but perhaps

> it is better to be cautious and not use it or to ask first.

>

> OTOH, I've used those butters occasionally because the whole thing slipped my

mind and I never

> reacted. And I believe Misty has as well - maybe she'll chime in and say if

she has - so maybe

> they are okay.

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> Mara

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>> Your instincts were correct- it is NOT okay to use nut butters made from

roasted nuts. The process they use when they roast them involves using starches

to keep everything separated.

>> You can give your hubby the raw walnut/raw cashew butter.

>> Looks like you'll have to eat up that delicious almond butter yourself!!!

>> -Joanna

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>>> I bought some almond butter yesterday from whole foods. You grind it

your-self there at the store. But, I remember it said whole dry roasted almonds.

Is this o.k. I need to know before I give to hubby today.?I also bought walnut

butter with cashews, its in a jar (ingreds 100%Organic Ray Walnuts and 100%

Organic raw Cashews)I can save this walnut one for later on but I need to know I

am worried about the Dry Roasted Almonds I ground up ?

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[Guest guest]

> So, if you make your almond butter yourself from roasted nuts its ok, but if

you buy already made roasted almond butter it's not ok?

No, the reverse. roasted almond butter is okay. butter you make from

commercially roasted

and packaged nuts is not okay because the latter is likely to have preservatives

whereas

the former is not.

> Just to make sure I understand.

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> If you buy already made raw almond butter is that ok?

raw is also okay.

Mara

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> Thanks,

> June

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>>>>> I bought some almond butter yesterday from whole foods. You grind it

your-self there at the store. But, I remember it said whole dry roasted almonds.

Is this o.k. I need to know before I give to hubby today.?I also bought walnut

butter with cashews, its in a jar (ingreds 100%Organic Ray Walnuts and 100%

Organic raw Cashews)I can save this walnut one for later on but I need to know I

am worried about the Dry Roasted Almonds I ground up ?

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[Guest guest]

Holly, you are right. Katy

Almonds Legal Nuts sold in mixtures are not allowed, as most are roasted with a

starch coating. Nuts should only be used as nut flour, in recipes, until

diarrhea has subsided.

UGH!!! I thought it was the roasted/salted MIXED nuts that weren't legal.

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[Guest guest]

I think you'll be all right, Holly. I learned it this way, but then I recently

saw an email from Elaine Gottschall

which made the point you did.

I think it is one of those things that got stricter over time than what E.

originally proposed like with soy

oil and peanut butter.

Mara

> UGH!!! I thought it was the roasted/salted MIXED nuts that weren't legal. I

just spent a bunch on some roasted pecans (no salt) from Trader Joe's, and some

roasted macadamia nuts (no salt) from the bulk bin at Sprouts. My only concern

was the scoop I used for the macadamias (it could have been in any number of

illegals), but since I couldn't find macadamias anywhere else, I threw caution

to the wind. I hope I'm far enough along on the diet that this won't cause

problems, as I've already made everything into brownies to stock my freezer. I

can't afford to toss everything and start over :-(

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> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08

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>>>> I bought some almond butter yesterday from whole foods. You grind it

your-self there at the store. But, I remember it said whole dry roasted almonds.

Is this o.k. I need to know before I give to hubby today.?I also bought walnut

butter with cashews, its in a jar (ingreds 100%Organic Ray Walnuts and 100%

Organic raw Cashews)I can save this walnut one for later on but I need to know I

am worried about the Dry Roasted Almonds I ground up ?

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[Guest guest]

You should probably slow down on adding in new things - I know he is thinner

than he was last time,

but you don't want to aggravate things and make it worse again.

If the bleeding continues, I would check out the vitamin E enema protocol - it

really helps a lot

of UC people. (though not all).

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=67345

(Ignore the diet part - just consult the enema instructions).

added a few more of her own notations (though she says it didn't help

her):

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/BTVC-SCD/message/47308

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> Thank-you for slowing me down, its real hard though, husband is at 164 lbs and

holding., gotta go to Dr. next Tues. he was at 171 last time dr.saw him that was

6 or 7 wks ago, I did do the jared walnut cashew blend 1tsp. monday, then tues

did 2 T pureed peaches tues he said peaches hurt his stomach 30 mins or so.Then

last night I made him a smoothie with 1/4 avocado , 1/2 cup yogurt, 1/2 cup

grape j.,1 T honey. and last night he bleed 2 or 3 times. so its just very

frustrating, live and learn.

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>>>>> I bought some almond butter yesterday from whole foods. You grind it

your-self there at the store. But, I remember it said whole dry roasted almonds.

Is this o.k. I need to know before I give to hubby today.?I also bought walnut

butter with cashews, its in a jar (ingreds 100%Organic Ray Walnuts and 100%

Organic raw Cashews)I can save this walnut one for later on but I need to know I

am worried about the Dry Roasted Almonds I ground up ?

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[Guest guest]

At 11:32 AM 8/26/2010, you wrote:

That's what I thought too. I

thought it was only the mixed nuts that we had to be concerned about.

That's correct.

The starch in the roasted nuts that we are concerned about is used to

hold salt and flavorings on because they are using no oil. Plain,

roasted, unsalted nuts typically do not have starch on them.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

At 11:46 AM 8/26/2010, you wrote:

Thank-you for slowing me down,

its real hard though, husband is at 164 lbs and holding., gotta go to Dr.

next Tues. he was at 171 last time dr.saw him that was 6 or 7 wks ago, I

did do the jared walnut cashew blend 1tsp. monday, then tues did 2 T

pureed peaches tues he said peaches hurt his stomach 30 mins or so.Then

last night I made him a smoothie with 1/4 avocado , 1/2 cup yogurt, 1/2

cup grape j.,1 T honey. and last night he bleed 2 or 3 times. so its just

very frustrating, live and learn.

I know I'd've had a problem with that much grape juice. You know,

he can eat larger portions of meats and such to help with the weight

issues.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Just don't eat raw peanut butter. Katy

NO roasted nut mixes-YES roasted nuts (if just one kind)-YES raw nut butters-YES roasted nut butters (but they usually have skins so they are more advanced)-BE CAUTIOUS of bulk nuts as there might be cross-contamination

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[Guest guest]

At 04:04 PM 8/26/2010, you wrote:

In a nutshell (HA HA HA!):

-NO roasted nut mixes

-YES roasted nuts (if just one kind)

-YES raw nut butters

-YES roasted nut butters (but they usually have skins so they are more

advanced)

-BE CAUTIOUS of bulk nuts as there might be

cross-contamination

Yep, good summary!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

back to the nut question. What about raw mixed nuts that are not roasted or salted? I found them at my coop, I think they are organic too.thanks!

That's what I thought too. I thought it was only the mixed nuts that we had to be concerned about.

Amber

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> UGH!!! I thought it was the roasted/salted MIXED nuts that weren't legal.

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> Holly

> Crohn's

> SCD 12/01/08