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Hi Carissa,

What is the reason your son is on SCD? Potty training involves motor and

communicative-social skills, so if he has any language, behavior, or social

delays- this may make it more of a challenge at his age. Also, if he has any

urgency and frequent or loose stools, he is more likely to not have as good

control of his BM's and may have accidents. This can even happen to adults, so

it would be even more of a challenge with a child.

What you don't want to do is set him up for failure if he is not ready to potty

train. It is good that he is sending " signals " . What you can do is introduce the

idea. You could have him sit on the potty- with a diaper on- while you are on

the toilet and let him get the idea- no pressure, just- " this is what we do on

the potty " . If he shows interest and is actually able to sit on it for a while,

then you could try to catch him when it is most likely- after he eats, sit on

the potty- no diaper- with a toy or you reading to him- and if something

happens-- clap and be happy- but do not make this punitive in any way. More than

likely- a boy his age will play with the potty or put it on his head- not want

to sit still for long- or just run away- which is why you let him sit on it

first with a diaper on until he gets the idea :) If he gets the idea quickly-

great- but you may want to keep him in pull ups until stools are better to avoid

accidents which he may see as failures. (and a mess for you)

Eventually- he will be trained, but with loose stools and feeling badly- this

may not happen for now. If he shows no progress by 3 or 3 1/2 you should talk to

your pediatrician.

PJ

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> My son is a little over 2.5 years (will be 3 Jan 3rd). He hates wearing

diapers and I think could be easily potty trained by signs he's " giving off " ,

but I didn't know if it would be even possible to do with him having such

non-solid bowels? As well as going as frequently as he does? Is potty training

something I should pursue, or not even worry about until his digestive system

has healed and his bowel movements are more " regular " (in frequency and in

consistency)? =) Thanks!

>

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Oh, how I wish there was internet and this group 25 years ago. My son had

liquid bms especially his 2nd year of life. He would get up from sitting on the

floor and there would be a puddle. He lived in sweat pants (elastic

cuffs)because this would catch some of it. Diapers didnt catch it. He didn't

seem to have any cramping and never got a diaper rash. He finally " grew out " of

it I guess. Detected allergies to peanut butter, raisins, and chocolate. What

else, I don't know. By the time he potty trained at 4, he wasn't so bad

anymore. Now he is 25, and appears to be on the same track that I am on, with

digestive problems. Wish I knew a little then, of what I know now.

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> > My son is a little over 2.5 years (will be 3 Jan 3rd). He hates wearing

diapers and I think could be easily potty trained by signs he's " giving off " ,

but I didn't know if it would be even possible to do with him having such

non-solid bowels? As well as going as frequently as he does? Is potty training

something I should pursue, or not even worry about until his digestive system

has healed and his bowel movements are more " regular " (in frequency and in

consistency)? =) Thanks!

> >

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At 08:07 AM 8/26/2010, you wrote:

Oh, how I wish there was

internet and this group 25 years ago.

Amen, to that! I started with the gut issues in 1976, and battled it up

until I found SCD in 2001. And without access to online Forums, I

never would have found it.

Ironically, it was courtesy of my furkids and Forums. Shadow and Sunny

were having hassles with their food. I was looking for a better food for

them, and found Dr. Sagrera, who recommended that I put them on a

raw, grain-free diet. They did so well (and their soft mushy poops

became firm) that I commented, on a Natural Medicine Forum, that I wished

there was a grain-free diet for humans. And one of the people popped up

with, " There is! Get a copy of BTVC! "

And the rest is history. But I sure would have liked to have been spared

that 25 years of searching. Except... Elaine didn't publish Food

and the Gut Reaction until June of 1987....

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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In all honesty my son wasn't really potty-trained until he was almost NINE YEARS

old because food sensitivities were causing him to have loose bowels, wetting

his pants in the daytime and the bed at night. ALL his " potty " problems were

caused by foods and worsened when ragweed was high.

If I'd known about a rare foods allergy rotation diet when

he was much younger our life (including his ADHD, learning emotional, and

behavioral problems which were all caused by what he was eating) would have been

a LOT easier!!!

Blessings,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant,

and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled

past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet,

SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! :) Magnesium/Vits

A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

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Hi Carissa,

What is the reason your son is on SCD? Potty training involves motor and

communicative-social skills, so if he has any language, behavior, or social

delays- this may make it more of a challenge at his age. Also, if he has any

urgency and frequent or loose stools, he is more likely to not have as good

control of his BM's and may have accidents. This can even happen to adults, so

it would be even more of a challenge with a child.

What you don't want to do is set him up for failure if he is not ready to potty

train. It is good that he is sending " signals " . What you can do is introduce the

idea. You could have him sit on the potty- with a diaper on- while you are on

the toilet and let him get the idea- no pressure, just- " this is what we do on

the potty " . If he shows interest and is actually able to sit on it for a while,

then you could try to catch him when it is most likely- after he eats, sit on

the potty- no diaper- with a toy or you reading to him- and if something

happens-- clap and be happy- but do not make this punitive in any way. More than

likely- a boy his age will play with the potty or put it on his head- not want

to sit still for long- or just run away- which is why you let him sit on it

first with a diaper on until he gets the idea :) If he gets the idea quickly-

great- but you may want to keep him in pull ups until stools are better to avoid

accidents which he may see as failures. (and a mess for you)

Eventually- he will be trained, but with loose stools and feeling badly- this

may not happen for now. If he shows no progress by 3 or 3 1/2 you should talk to

your pediatrician.

>

> PJ

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In all honesty my son wasn't really potty-trained until he was almost NINE

YEARS old because food sensitivities were causing him to have loose bowels,

wetting his pants in the daytime and the bed at night.

[Janine replies:] mine, too - he finally stopped " anal leakage " within the

past year and he is 8.5 We kept buckets with a little baking soda for him

to put his soiled underpants in by the toilet.

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Thank you everyone for all of your comments and previous experience stories. =)

They have really helped me to not worry about potty training right now, but just

focus on getting him (and the rest of us!) healthy. I know he's " ready " , but

I'm afraid with the frequency and consistency (definitely loose! - my newborn

had more solid stools than he did, when all she had was milk, and he's eating

adult food) that even if he does try to learn, he'll just make mistakes and get

disappointed, and eventually quit.

So thanks again! I now know there are more important things to worry about than

" keeping up with the joneses " ! hahaha =)

Carissa

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> My son is a little over 2.5 years (will be 3 Jan 3rd). He hates wearing

diapers and I think could be easily potty trained by signs he's " giving off " ,

but I didn't know if it would be even possible to do with him having such

non-solid bowels? As well as going as frequently as he does? Is potty training

something I should pursue, or not even worry about until his digestive system

has healed and his bowel movements are more " regular " (in frequency and in

consistency)? =) Thanks!

>

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