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I typically *do* lop off the ends..but a lot of times I feel it pertinent to

leave some of the convo on even if you may not see it that way. I can't

tell you how worthless it is on some posts to have to chase down what they

are even talking about. If I forget, it's not intentional.

So this can be open to interpretation on some posts, .

Sherra

editing replies - mandatory

> Please edit your replies to emails on this board. It's one of our rules,

> and disregard will mean that you will not be able to post any more, only

> read.....and we know that's tough. :-)

>

> What this means is that when you reply to an email, position your cursor

> before you begin typing at the top of the email so that your response will

> be the first thing visible. Reply at the top of the email. This prevents

> readers from having to scroll through the message that they, too, have

also

> read before.

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> MOST importantly, delete absolutely as much of the message that you're

> responding to as possible. This reduces the size of emails for people

with

> slow internet connections and makes it possible for the digest readers to

> understand what's going on with a message thread.

>

> The reason for leaving *part* of the original message in is so that people

> know the subject you're talking about. In many cases, the subject line of

> the email is all that is necessary and the entire message can be deleted.

>

> If this is unclear to you, or you do not know how to do this, please ask

> someone on the list for help and you'll get it as certainly as you get

> answers to other questions.

>

> in Austin

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You know, some of us don't get the original posts so having it attached

is quite helpful. Yahoo can be quite arbitrary in who receives which

posts some times. JMO

Amber/FL

Re: editing replies - mandatory

I typically *do* lop off the ends..but a lot of times I feel it

pertinent to leave some of the convo on even if you may not see it that

way. I can't tell you how worthless it is on some posts to have to

chase down what they are even talking about. If I forget, it's not

intentional.

So this can be open to interpretation on some posts, .

Sherra

editing replies - mandatory

> Please edit your replies to emails on this board. It's one of our

> rules, and disregard will mean that you will not be able to post any

> more, only read.....and we know that's tough. :-)

>

> What this means is that when you reply to an email, position your

> cursor before you begin typing at the top of the email so that your

> response will be the first thing visible. Reply at the top of the

> email. This prevents readers from having to scroll through the

> message that they, too, have

also

> read before.

>

> MOST importantly, delete absolutely as much of the message that you're

> responding to as possible. This reduces the size of emails for people

with

> slow internet connections and makes it possible for the digest readers

> to understand what's going on with a message thread.

>

> The reason for leaving *part* of the original message in is so that

> people know the subject you're talking about. In many cases, the

> subject line of the email is all that is necessary and the entire

> message can be deleted.

>

> If this is unclear to you, or you do not know how to do this, please

> ask someone on the list for help and you'll get it as certainly as you

> get answers to other questions.

>

> in Austin

> List Moderator

> RNY April 1998

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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In a message dated 12/13/2003 3:19:52 PM Central Standard Time,

sherra4@... writes:

> I can't tell you how worthless it is on some posts to have to chase down

> what they

> are even talking about.

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Agreed. I think it's a courtesy to include some portion of the message one is

responding to.

Carol A

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I get all of the messages e-mail and do not understand what the problem is.

I don't even understand the rules or the fuss, maybe I am too computer

illiterate. I just hit reply all. On the Oldies message board it is set up

that you

hit reply, it goes to message board with nothing attached unless you

highlight the portion you respond to.

If I am breaking rules, it is because I don't understand the rules. But be

sure I am not going to be editing for other's convenience. They can edit

anything that bothers them or stop receiving the messages in an inconvenient

manner. But I only wish to click reply or reply all and then have my say.

Fay Bayuk

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Fay, I don't remember ever seeing a problem with your posts, but what

was referring to was the Digest. If you're not familiar with

what the Digest is to get posts, then you wouldn't understand. What

it is is 1 email with 25 or so posts in it that you just scroll

through, rather than getting 25 individual emails....just makes for

fewer emails clogging up your mailbox. When people just hit reply,

and don't edit the crap off the end of their emails, it includes

everything when it posts, and as you scroll down to read the posts,

you can go through literally hundreds of past posts in before you can

read the most current.

A little editing before posting is just common courtesy. As

said, if anyone doesn't understand of know how to edit, just ask, and

we'll be happy to walk you through it.

Thanks,

in NJ

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> I get all of the messages e-mail and do not understand what the

problem is.

> >

> If I am breaking rules, it is because I don't understand the

rules. But be sure I am not going to be editing for other's

convenience. They can edit anything that bothers them or stop

receiving the messages in an inconvenient manner. But I only wish to

click reply or reply all and then have my say.

>

>

> Fay Bayuk

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1. This isn't the Oldies message board, it's the Grad list and it has a

different routine and set of rules than some other boards.

2. The rule about editing replies is to make it convenient and pleasant and

possible for board members to read. Only the part of the message you're

replying to specifically should be left in, or it makes the messages lengthy

to download and unintelligible in digests.

3. People cannot edit messages before they receive them, only the sender

can. This is not editing due to the *nature* of the content, it's due to

the *volume* of the content.

4. Member will edit for others convenience or they will not be allowed to

post. Be sure you will too or you won't be allowed to post.

5. Members can receive the messages in any manner they choose, and whatever

works for them. The manner of posting is restricted, not the manner of

receiving.

6. This is a simple, easy to accommodate rule which will be enforced.

Running a board, reading messages, responding to messages is an effort all

of us expend to make a good community. And most do an admirable job of it.

in Austin

List Moderator

RNY April 1998

Re: editing replies - mandatory

> I get all of the messages e-mail and do not understand what the problem

is.

> I don't even understand the rules or the fuss, maybe I am too computer

> illiterate. I just hit reply all. On the Oldies message board it is set

up that you

> hit reply, it goes to message board with nothing attached unless you

> highlight the portion you respond to.

>

> If I am breaking rules, it is because I don't understand the rules. But

be

> sure I am not going to be editing for other's convenience. They can edit

> anything that bothers them or stop receiving the messages in an

inconvenient

> manner. But I only wish to click reply or reply all and then have my say.

>

>

> Fay Bayuk

> **300/168

> 10/23/01

> Dr.

> Open RNY 150 cm

> Click for My Profile

> http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008

>

>

>

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Right on. It is a courtesy and common sense to include " some portion " of

the message. It is not a courtesy to include long, entire posts, multiple

posts, etc.

in Austin

List Moderator

RNY April 1998

Re: editing replies - mandatory

> In a message dated 12/13/2003 3:19:52 PM Central Standard Time,

> sherra4@... writes:

>

> > I can't tell you how worthless it is on some posts to have to chase

down

> > what they

> > are even talking about.

> -----------------------------------------------

>

> Agreed. I think it's a courtesy to include some portion of the message one

is

> responding to.

>

> Carol A

>

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Some of the message should be left on for readability and it is helpful.

Leaving it all on is not helpful and not allowed. So, we should all try to

develop this skill.

This board takes times and energy to run. The moderators receive requests

from many people and decide what we feel is best for the board. This is one

of the rules and will be enforced.

This post includes my " entire " original post when a few lines of it or even

the subject would have sufficed.

in Austin

List Moderator

RNY April 1998

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>

>

> > Please edit your replies to emails on this board. It's one of our

> > rules, and disregard will mean that you will not be able to post any

> > more, only read.....and we know that's tough. :-)

> >

> > What this means is that when you reply to an email, position your

> > cursor before you begin typing at the top of the email so that your

> > response will be the first thing visible. Reply at the top of the

> > email. This prevents readers from having to scroll through the

> > message that they, too, have

> also

> > read before.

> >

> > MOST importantly, delete absolutely as much of the message that you're

>

> > responding to as possible. This reduces the size of emails for people

> with

> > slow internet connections and makes it possible for the digest readers

>

> > to understand what's going on with a message thread.

> >

> > The reason for leaving *part* of the original message in is so that

> > people know the subject you're talking about. In many cases, the

> > subject line of the email is all that is necessary and the entire

> > message can be deleted.

> >

> > If this is unclear to you, or you do not know how to do this, please

> > ask someone on the list for help and you'll get it as certainly as you

>

> > get answers to other questions.

> >

> > in Austin

> > List Moderator

> > RNY April 1998

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Fay,

If you received digests, you may understand better. But It applies to me as a

reader and to everyone, however. For now, you're going to have to trust us on

this one. Editing replies is not optional. In other words, edit or don't post.

Most people are happy to do it and do it well. I don't appreciate my efforts to

moderate this list and make it better for everyone to be trivialized as

nonsense.

List Moderator

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> I think all of this stuff only applies to those receiving digests.

> Just

> eliminate digests and stop this nonsense.

>

>

> Fay Bayuk

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In a message dated 12/16/2003 11:51:18 PM Eastern Standard Time,

davidinaustin@... writes:

I don't appreciate my efforts to moderate this list and make it better for

everyone to be trivialized as nonsense.

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Let this be a public apology. I am so sorry to have taken my bad mood out on

you. You cannot possibly know how much I appreciate your efforts and this

site. Please forgive me until the next time I make an ass out of myself.

Fay Bayuk

**300/168

10/23/01

Dr.

Open RNY 150 cm

Click for My Profile

http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008

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