Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 I had the same thing happen to me also...I had stomach stappling in 1992...and when I was scoped there wasn't any staples to be found...????? Last year I had a revision with complications...but have come a long ways now...went to the doctors today...and now I have a hernia right where the surgery was...hopefully in June of this year to be fixed when I have taken more weight off...more to goal of 160 , right now I am at 196 from 263.5. Relax...and let the meds work...was still able to understand you....hope you feel better... Joy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2004 Report Share Posted February 10, 2004 Ok, then I am getting off the meds. LOL If you are still able to understand me then they aren't WORKING! Email is GREAT. I don't have to move my mouth when I type....and I don't move my mouth when I READ either! I think it is really getting a little better. At least that is what I am telling . Or he won't let us go to the dog show this weekend and I have spent a fortune on entry fees. I don't need to talk to the Judge. So, as long as I keep talking to a minimum Ring side....yeah right...well I can forget that! Will just take my meds...at least I will be calm. Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice -----Original Message----- From: packerturjo@... Relax...and let the meds work...was still able to understand you....hope you feel better... Joy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 SLD is staple line disruption. It is a common mechanical failure for those who are NOT transected. I had it at 6 mos post op the first rny then had to go back at one year and be transected! Many of us are trying to get the word out that WLS without transection is not the best alternative. If you have a choice (I didn't the first time) always ask for transection for a better chance at a permanent tiny pouch. Believe me when I tell you that it makes all the difference. It is confusing and causes guilt when we find that after having WLS we start to gain and eat a LOT more than before. If one doesn't find out why (upper GI or endoscope) the guilt continues forever and we never reach our goal weight. It is much better and takes a lot of courage to face a mechanical problem head on and get it fixed! Good luck to us all and happy life! Marilyn Childers Fairmont, WV 312/180/150 panni 1/26/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 We can understand you, but you sound a little too... happy. I think the drugs must be working... --- 365/189/160 Lap RnY, Distal - Dr. s Vanderbilt University Hospital Surgery date June 3, 2002 LBL, TT & Brachioplasty Feb. 4, 2004 ----- Original Message ----- > Ok, then I am getting off the meds. LOL If you are still able to understand > me then they aren't WORKING! Email is GREAT. I don't have to move my mouth > when I type....and I don't move my mouth when I READ either! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 An SLD is a staple line disruption. I can best explain it with the surgery I had. I had the VBG. My surgeon used 4 rows of staples to create a pouch and puts a ring at the bottom to create a funnel. Nothing is cut or bypassed. Part of the problem is that the stomach is a moving organ - it moves in order to get the food through it and on into the intestines. This is part of the problem with the staple line disruption (not the entire problem but it certainly doesn't help.) In my case, there was too much scar tissue around the ring to allow anything but liquid down. This meant that I threw up a lot during the first year. This is what eventually caused the staple line disruption. The constant throwing up eventually created another hole for the food to go through. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:03:48 -0800 " Alice " writes: > I've been following the thread about the SLD. But I'm not really > sure what > that is. I'm only 14 months out but want to be on the look out for > any > problems that might arise later. I'm sorry if someone covered this > and I > missed the original message. Thanks for the reply. > > Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Debbie, You are sooo cute loopie. If ya'll can tolerate my brain on pain meds, I can certainly accept you on muscle relaxers. Maybe we should start a new group. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:44:46 -0800 " Debbie McNeice " writes: > Oh...and If I " sound " a little loopier then NORMAL...it is because > they have > me on muscle relaxers and pain meds (do NOT ask me what I am > taking...can't > remember and too loopy to do my stairs by myself) for TMJ until I > can get in > and be seen by an oral surgeon. > > Debbie & Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Happy, muscle relaxers, yep definitely working. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:54:52 -0600 " B. Bass " writes: > We can understand you, but you sound a little too... happy. I think > the > drugs must be working... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 And Marilyn and I get weary from leaning on people to get their mechanics checked, too. I could see mine coming, doing what I do, seeing what I see. So it was not a mystery to me. But for others, it is a guilt thing. WE cannot disrupt a staple line by over eating. Can't be done. Yes, we can out eat the surgery with grazing & sugar, but we cannot " pop " a staple line. It occurs from the bottom up, or outside in. Excessive vomiting is another cause, but again, not a personal character flaw. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com Re: SLD? SLD is staple line disruption. It is a common mechanical failure for those who are NOT transected. I had it at 6 mos post op the first rny then had to go back at one year and be transected! Many of us are trying to get the word out that WLS without transection is not the best alternative. If you have a choice (I didn't the first time) always ask for transection for a better chance at a permanent tiny pouch. Believe me when I tell you that it makes all the difference. It is confusing and causes guilt when we find that after having WLS we start to gain and eat a LOT more than before. If one doesn't find out why (upper GI or endoscope) the guilt continues forever and we never reach our goal weight. It is much better and takes a lot of courage to face a mechanical problem head on and get it fixed! Good luck to us all and happy life! Marilyn Childers Fairmont, WV 312/180/150 panni 1/26/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Re: SLD? We can understand you, but you sound a little too... happy. I think the drugs must be working... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 And call the group the Fruity Loops? I really NEED to stop these muscle relaxers. My brain is in a fog. HA! And just think, I am making my hubby DRIVE me to someone's house so that I can do a facial for her. ROTFL......Now THAT should be FUN! Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice Re: SLD? Debbie, You are sooo cute loopie. If ya'll can tolerate my brain on pain meds, I can certainly accept you on muscle relaxers. Maybe we should start a new group. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2004 Report Share Posted February 11, 2004 Marilyn, I couldn't agree with you MORE. I have said this before, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart, I think people who undergo revisions are very, very brave. I had my lap RNY in 11/01, and had NO idea about transections at that time, but as it turns out, I was " lucky " enough that my surgeon and those other surgeons in his practice ALL transected. Recently, when I went back this past November for my second annual, the subject of SLD's came up, and he told me that neither he nor any surgeon in his practice has had a patient OF THEIRS come back for a revision due to SLD, but I happen to know he has revised nontransected RNYs of other surgeon's patients. I think there are STILL surgeons out there today who are not transecting, for whatever reasons, and I hope the word gets out to all those considering this surgery about the possible (some would say absolute) problems with SLDs in non-transected stomachs. Lucille In a message dated 2/11/2004 5:16:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, Graduate-OSSG writes: > It is much better and > takes a lot of courage to face a mechanical problem head on and get it > fixed! > Good luck to us all and happy life! > > Marilyn Childers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 I want pictures of the facial. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 14:59:03 -0800 " Debbie McNeice " writes: > And call the group the Fruity Loops? I really NEED to stop these > muscle > relaxers. My brain is in a fog. HA! And just think, I am making my > hubby > DRIVE me to someone's house so that I can do a facial for her. > ROTFL......Now THAT should be FUN! > > Debbie & > > Re: SLD? > > Debbie, > You are sooo cute loopie. If ya'll can tolerate my brain on > pain > meds, I can certainly accept you on muscle relaxers. Maybe we > should start > a new group. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Lucille, AMEN!!! Marilyn Childers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Okay, I never really thought of having people check out their mechanics as a character flaw. Now I did have my surgeon's staff inform us in a support group that vomiting was a primary reason for sld's but if we were following the program, there wouldn't be a problem. I promptly mentioned the fact that my problem had been excessive scar tissue around my ring which caused the vomiting. It was definitely nothing that I did. But if I had not had my mechanics checked out, I would certainly continue to blame myself for the weight gain. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 12:22:13 -0800 " Vitalady " writes: > And Marilyn and I get weary from leaning on people to get their > mechanics checked, too. > > I could see mine coming, doing what I do, seeing what I see. So it > was > not a mystery to me. But for others, it is a guilt thing. WE cannot > disrupt a staple line by over eating. Can't be done. Yes, we can out > eat > the surgery with grazing & sugar, but we cannot " pop " a staple line. > It > occurs from the bottom up, or outside in. Excessive vomiting is > another > cause, but again, not a personal character flaw. > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > > > Re: SLD? > > SLD is staple line disruption. It is a common mechanical failure > for > those > who are NOT transected. I had it at 6 mos post op the first rny > then > had to go > back at one year and be transected! Many of us are trying to get > the > word > out that WLS without transection is not > the best alternative. If you have a choice (I didn't the first > time) > always > ask for transection for a better chance at a permanent tiny pouch. > Believe > me when I tell you that it makes all the difference. It is > confusing > and > causes guilt when we find that after having WLS we start to gain and > eat > a LOT more > than before. If one doesn't find out why (upper GI or endoscope) > the > guilt > continues forever and we never reach our goal weight. It is much > better > and > takes a lot of courage to face a mechanical problem head on and get > it > fixed! > Good luck to us all and happy life! > > Marilyn Childers > Fairmont, WV > 312/180/150 > panni 1/26/04 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 This I find really scary since my surgeon never told me anything about excess vomiting. I did a lot of that the first couple months but by eating too fast or too much, in fact I had another post op tell me that it is much better to throw it up then be in pain for hours. It was so easy to throw up and now it takes some major effort (I don't throw up much, once in a blue moon). I live in constant fear that I can eat too much and that I don't have any more restriction that I had pre op, it is more of a head thing, a dieting thing, I really believe that the only way I loose is when I just do protein shakes and exercise my butt off. I am over a year out and have lost 116 but have another 50 to go. I have often wondered about enlarged stoma or staple line problem (I am not transected), but my doc said as long as I am losing he is not worried, yeah I lose but that also only happens when I only drink protein/no carbs and hit the water hard, as I don't really feel a restriction. So now that my weight is a lot less and number wise don't qualify for surgery I am not sure I want to know if my mechanics are in check, it would just be too depressive. Or am I completely off my rocker and just accept this is my personal post op life and to be successful just drink my shakes and leave food alone? Open RNY 12/30/02 Re: SLD? Okay, I never really thought of having people check out their mechanics as a character flaw. Now I did have my surgeon's staff inform us in a support group that vomiting was a primary reason for sld's but if we were following the program, there wouldn't be a problem. I promptly mentioned the fact that my problem had been excessive scar tissue around my ring which caused the vomiting. It was definitely nothing that I did. But if I had not had my mechanics checked out, I would certainly continue to blame myself for the weight gain. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.574 / Virus Database: 364 - Release Date: 1/29/04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2004 Report Share Posted February 12, 2004 Ha! No pictures. I really should do a before and after picture of my customers. All I can say is her skin looked radiant and when we applied make-up she look wonderful! Not to mention, I have so much fun meeting new people and TALKING...why is the TALKING not a surprise to any one? LOL Debbie & in Gig Harbor (170cm medial) ladybostons@... http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice Re: SLD? I want pictures of the facial. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Revision 2/4/04 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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