Re: HELP! Is anybody else mad at their surgeon post-op?

[Guest guest]

Hi Tarzan,

Is your jaw itself a few degrees off level, or is it the teeth

themselves. What I am getting at, is that if it is just your teeth

only, they might be able to do something about it with your braces.

My teeth are too short, and they are lengthening them slightly with

the braces. I mean vertically, not horizontally. So possibly if

you still have your braces, they might be able to make that

adjustment. Have you discussed this with your OD and OMS? I think

it would be worth bringing up. And I would ask them what your

options are too. If it is only a slight difference, I am sure there

is something that can be adjusted. But definately ask them. You

have already been through so much, and this is still the time when

ajustments can be made. Crossing my fingers for you!

Hugs,

Fran

>

> I'm nine weeks post-op from upper and lower jaw surgery. I had my

> upper jaw split into three sections, widened, moved forward a few

mm

> and shortened vertically. My lower was advanced about 7mm, and

the

> chin bone sectioned and advanced 6mm.

>

> The good news: I now have a nice profile and my teeth line up

> properly for a good bite. I am 80% recovered from surgery and

> confident my remaining nerves will come back.

>

> The bad news: Although my teeth line up properly to each other.

> My " tooth box " as a whole, is about one or two degrees out of

level

> to the horizon. In other words, if you drew a rectangle where the

top

> two points were my pupils, the bottom points being the tops of my

> teeth, the bottom right point of the box is higher than the bottom

> left point.

>

> When I think about this or look in the mirror, I want to cry. I'm

42

> years old and have endured so much trauma with my mouth and teeth

> over the years. When I decided two years ago to get braces (again)

> and really go for it, I hoped to correct a multitude of sins

> including: open bite, sleep apnea, poor profile, gummy smile. All

of

> those things were fixed.

>

> I should be happy, but now my jaw slips when I chew, and when I

look

> in the mirror, I have to tilt my head for my teeth to look

straight.

> In addition, there was a big gap vertically between my back

molars,

> my OD said that will be fixed quickly with rubber bands. In three

> weeks, the teeth are closer, but I also worry if that change will

> revert when the rubber bands are removed down the road. Does

anybody

> else have any experience with this long-term?

>

> Still, with all the money my OS makes, couldn't he have made sure

my

> facial box was square also? It just sucks to come this close, and

> have fixed one problem, but created another. It was really hard

for

> me to agree to the upper jaw surgery. And recovering has been no

> picnic. My lower right lip is still numb. One of my upper eye-

teeth

> has some blackness now. Dead root? decay?

>

> I'm struggling with this emotionally. Does anybody have any

similar

> experiences and/or feedback/suggestions?

>

> Thanks,

> Tarzan

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Fran,

Thanks for your encouragement. My lower teeth are pretty even side to

side even though the front teeth are too extended. It looks like

after the lower jaw was sectioned, that it was put back unlevel and

healed that way. I think that is due to the upper being put back

unlevel. The OS was concerned about the teeth lining up, but

neglected the " facial box " . It looks asymetrical. Un-natural. Nature

makes us symetrical.

It never occurred to me that this could get screwed up. But, I can

feel the unlevelness in my palate and my internal sense of horizon is

skewed. I can see in the mirror the jawbone is higher on the right

side. Perhaps this is what's causing my jaw to slip?

I haven't mentioned this to anybody and nobody has brought it up to

me. So, hopefully, I'm being hyper-sensitive. But, it seems obvious

to me.

I intend to bring it up to both Docs when I see them at the beginning

of December. The last time I saw them, I had my splint removed.

Though I suspected a problem, there were too many other things going

on to follow up. After the OD put a new arch wire on, I noticed it

immediately.

With any luck, the gaps will close and the lower front teeth can be

pushed back into the bone a little more on the right side to mask the

jaw issue. I sure hope so. I'd really like to snatch victory from the

jaws of defeat.

Tarzan

> >

> > I'm nine weeks post-op from upper and lower jaw surgery. I had

my

> > upper jaw split into three sections, widened, moved forward a few

> mm

> > and shortened vertically. My lower was advanced about 7mm, and

> the

> > chin bone sectioned and advanced 6mm.

> >

> > The good news: I now have a nice profile and my teeth line up

> > properly for a good bite. I am 80% recovered from surgery and

> > confident my remaining nerves will come back.

> >

> > The bad news: Although my teeth line up properly to each other.

> > My " tooth box " as a whole, is about one or two degrees out of

> level

> > to the horizon. In other words, if you drew a rectangle where the

> top

> > two points were my pupils, the bottom points being the tops of my

> > teeth, the bottom right point of the box is higher than the

bottom

> > left point.

> >

> > When I think about this or look in the mirror, I want to cry. I'm

> 42

> > years old and have endured so much trauma with my mouth and teeth

> > over the years. When I decided two years ago to get braces

(again)

> > and really go for it, I hoped to correct a multitude of sins

> > including: open bite, sleep apnea, poor profile, gummy smile. All

> of

> > those things were fixed.

> >

> > I should be happy, but now my jaw slips when I chew, and when I

> look

> > in the mirror, I have to tilt my head for my teeth to look

> straight.

> > In addition, there was a big gap vertically between my back

> molars,

> > my OD said that will be fixed quickly with rubber bands. In three

> > weeks, the teeth are closer, but I also worry if that change will

> > revert when the rubber bands are removed down the road. Does

> anybody

> > else have any experience with this long-term?

> >

> > Still, with all the money my OS makes, couldn't he have made sure

> my

> > facial box was square also? It just sucks to come this close, and

> > have fixed one problem, but created another. It was really hard

> for

> > me to agree to the upper jaw surgery. And recovering has been no

> > picnic. My lower right lip is still numb. One of my upper eye-

> teeth

> > has some blackness now. Dead root? decay?

> >

> > I'm struggling with this emotionally. Does anybody have any

> similar

> > experiences and/or feedback/suggestions?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Tarzan

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tarzan,

Will watch for your posts from your December appointments then.

Wishing you luck with this!

Hugs,

Fran

> > >

> > > I'm nine weeks post-op from upper and lower jaw surgery. I

had

> my

> > > upper jaw split into three sections, widened, moved forward a

few

> > mm

> > > and shortened vertically. My lower was advanced about 7mm,

and

> > the

> > > chin bone sectioned and advanced 6mm.

> > >

> > > The good news: I now have a nice profile and my teeth line up

> > > properly for a good bite. I am 80% recovered from surgery and

> > > confident my remaining nerves will come back.

> > >

> > > The bad news: Although my teeth line up properly to each

other.

> > > My " tooth box " as a whole, is about one or two degrees out of

> > level

> > > to the horizon. In other words, if you drew a rectangle where

the

> > top

> > > two points were my pupils, the bottom points being the tops of

my

> > > teeth, the bottom right point of the box is higher than the

> bottom

> > > left point.

> > >

> > > When I think about this or look in the mirror, I want to cry.

I'm

> > 42

> > > years old and have endured so much trauma with my mouth and

teeth

> > > over the years. When I decided two years ago to get braces

> (again)

> > > and really go for it, I hoped to correct a multitude of sins

> > > including: open bite, sleep apnea, poor profile, gummy smile.

All

> > of

> > > those things were fixed.

> > >

> > > I should be happy, but now my jaw slips when I chew, and when

I

> > look

> > > in the mirror, I have to tilt my head for my teeth to look

> > straight.

> > > In addition, there was a big gap vertically between my back

> > molars,

> > > my OD said that will be fixed quickly with rubber bands. In

three

> > > weeks, the teeth are closer, but I also worry if that change

will

> > > revert when the rubber bands are removed down the road. Does

> > anybody

> > > else have any experience with this long-term?

> > >

> > > Still, with all the money my OS makes, couldn't he have made

sure

> > my

> > > facial box was square also? It just sucks to come this close,

and

> > > have fixed one problem, but created another. It was really

hard

> > for

> > > me to agree to the upper jaw surgery. And recovering has been

no

> > > picnic. My lower right lip is still numb. One of my upper eye-

> > teeth

> > > has some blackness now. Dead root? decay?

> > >

> > > I'm struggling with this emotionally. Does anybody have any

> > similar

> > > experiences and/or feedback/suggestions?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Tarzan

> > >

> >

>