RE: Re: Protein Questions for the Experts

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In a message dated 2/10/04 9:46:04 AM Central Standard Time, watnext@...

writes:

> Under no circumstances may anyone promote commercial products in which

> they, or other list members, have a personal financial stake. Under no

> circumstances may anyone detract from commercial products in

> which another list member has a personal financial stake.

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That seems slightly different from the rules as I remember them --

however, I will of course abide by any rules the group sets.

I have a few comments/concerns.

I fully support not having advertising or self promotion in our

messages.

I think however, that if we are allowed to mention ANY websites in a

positive manner where individuals, including lurkers, might find information

then we shouldn't be prohibited from mentioning those affiliated with list

members. I frequently mention that I buy my Whey Stack from a particular

website

that, to my knowledge, is not connected with any of our group members.

However, if I were to discover that a member on our site was having a sale and

could

provide a more economical source for members, I wouldn't be allowed to mention

it. This seems to do a disservice to our listmates.

As for saying negative things about a product in which a member has an

interest, this too causes some concerns. For example, if I were to start a

business selling ephedra over the Internet and included a signature tag that

listed the name of my website, say " www.i_sell_ephedra.com " , would it then be

against list rules for people to discuss the dangers of taking ephedra

(forgetting for a moment that it will soon become " illegal " to sell it)?

Coming up with rules to manage a list this size is a Herculean task --

and I'm sure that there is no way to set them so that it will always make

sense. I just wonder if we are not doing each other a disservice with this

particular rule. How do we balance sharing information and still keep group

free

of blatant advertising or disrespectful flaming? It's a tough call.

I appreciate all of the work that goes into making this list run

smoothly. Thanks to our moderators and list owner!

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

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In a message dated 2/10/2004 2:19:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, BethVBG

writes:

> That seems slightly different from the rules as I remember them --

> however, I will of course abide by any rules the group sets.

>

*****This was copied & pasted directly from our Home Page.

I have a few comments/concerns.

> I fully support not having advertising or self promotion in our

> messages.

> I think however, that if we are allowed to mention ANY websites in a

> positive manner where individuals, including lurkers, might find information

> then we shouldn't be prohibited from mentioning those affiliated with list

> members. I frequently mention that I buy my Whey Stack from a particular

> website that, to my knowledge, is not connected with any of our group members.

> However, if I were to discover that a member on our site was having a sale and

> could provide a more economical source for members, I wouldn't be allowed to

> mention it. This seems to do a disservice to our listmates.

*****That's part of the reason the Protein list was created, that and mail

volume. And, if you feel that someone would benefit from certain information,

by all means, email them privately.

> As for saying negative things about a product in which a member has

> an interest, this too causes some concerns. For example, if I were to start

> a business selling ephedra over the Internet and included a signature tag

> that listed the name of my website, say " www.i_sell_ephedra.com " , would it

then

> be against list rules for people to discuss the dangers of taking ephedra

> (forgetting for a moment that it will soon become " illegal " to sell it)?

*****The problems we had were not so much discussing which product might be

better or more effective than another, but specifically flaming, not only a

product, but the seller of that product. Limiting the promotion of a business

or

someone's stake in a business to a sig tag line was really the only remedy.

> Coming up with rules to manage a list this size is a Herculean task

> -- and I'm sure that there is no way to set them so that it will always make

> sense. I just wonder if we are not doing each other a disservice with this

> particular rule. How do we balance sharing information and still keep group

> free of blatant advertising or disrespectful flaming? It's a tough call.

>

*****You're right, it is a tough call, and often, a fine line.

I appreciate all of the work that goes into making this list run smoothly.

Thanks to

> our moderators and list owner!

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

> 11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

> 5'10 "

*****And, I'd like to thank everyone on this list for their incredible warmth

and respect for each other. Just think about it, almost 4000 members, with

different backgrounds, experiences and temperaments, and the amount of

restraint so often practiced is truly amazing! Who said we don't have

willpower! LOL

in NJ

Co-Mod

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In a message dated 2/10/04 9:59:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

quilterdot@... writes:

> to the Protein group at yahoo

i used to be on this, but it is missing from my group list...can

you send the subscribe address...

thanks,

laura

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OSSG-protein

Re: Re: Protein Questions for the Experts

In a message dated 2/10/04 9:59:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,

quilterdot@... writes:

> to the Protein group at yahoo

i used to be on this, but it is missing from my group

list...can

you send the subscribe address...

thanks,

laura