Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 An RNY friend of mine did. Claimed it took pounds off. I would be afraid to tinker with it myself, knowing what I know about its interactions in puberty (a state that I passed many decades ago). --Steve At 2:41 PM -0500 1/26/04, lacorona@... wrote: >does anyone take HGH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 My chiro is trying to talk me into taking it, esp. for bones but I'm chicken. He says that he's been talking to the scientist that developed the particular one that he's recommending and " they " have done studies that show NO weight gain for RNY patients but.......I'm chicken. And the price has me hesitant as well- $150.00 a month. Take it for 3 months off for one and then back on for 3 for two cycles and then one month out of three (I think?). And that's as much as I know about that. (Did I mention that I was afraid of weight gain?) Alice The Loon RNY 12/28/00 > does anyone take HGH? > > > (NOT to be confused with PQR, STUV, W, XY and Z--chortle) > love, > ceep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 In a message dated 1/26/2004 8:23:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, looneybird@... writes: He says that he's been talking to the scientist that developed the particular one that he's recommending and " they " have done studies that show NO weight gain for RNY patients but.......I'm chicken. ================================= No way has there been a scientific study for RNY and HGH. Be wary of wolves wearing sheeps clothing and Chiro pushing drugs with outrageous claims. Fay Bayuk **300/171 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Click for My Profile http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2004 Report Share Posted January 26, 2004 What's HGH? Barbara Jean Re: anyone ever take HGH? > An RNY friend of mine did. Claimed it took pounds off. I would be > afraid to tinker with it myself, knowing what I know about its > interactions in puberty (a state that I passed many decades ago). > > --Steve > > At 2:41 PM -0500 1/26/04, lacorona@... wrote: > >does anyone take HGH? > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 HGH = Human Growth Hormone in NJ ********************* > What's HGH? > > Barbara Jean > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 In a message dated 01/27/2004 7:35:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, quilterdot@... writes: , What exactly does DHEA do for you? I have only seen warnings about it, but then again I don't know much about it and many other alternative treatments. Thanks, Diane LAP RNY 9/99 Oh, well. I > started DHEA and discovered I am incredibly sensitive to it. I take 2.5 mg > every other day. I know people who can take 25-50 mg a day. I'm surprised > it hasn't been a hot topic here. > > So, I'm on HGH, testosterone, and a smidge of DHEA. > > I realized, when I was driving down the road yesterday, that no longer feel > tired all the time, which was a chronic complaint. Also, I had extensive > pulmonary tests since I got short of breath at odd times.....I could row 45 > minutes, but couldn't run up stairs. Long story short, I have asthma, and > it is now controlled beautifully with Singulair. > > What was the question ?????? > > in Austin I thought DHEA was for WOMEN ONLY.... Hmmmm.... Men can take that too? Katt Morales Surgery Date: 01/07/2003 Dr. Terry Sanderfer - Open RNY Distal Beginning Weight: 300 Current Weight: 148 Weight Lost: 152 Goal Weight: 135-144 We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. --Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2004 Report Share Posted January 27, 2004 Well, of *course* I take HGH. (Hunky Guy Hormone) Since I turned 50ish, or since WLS, or since *something* I felt flat sexually and emotionally. It wasn't depression, just a kind of flatness and sameness. So I started a whole, expensive anti-aging program. It included HGH, testosterone cream, DHEA, and god knows what else. I lasted four days because I was wired out of my mind. I retained the testosterone, which I liked, and had to adjust the dosage to half of what was recommended. I'm like that with meds. Then a year passed and my PS offered my HGH at near cost, so I tried it. I've been one it about 2-3 months. I don't know exactly what it does, but I look forward to the shot every morning, and I generally trust my body's intuition about drugs. It has increased my appetite, but I've lost weight. Six months ago, I weighed about 208. Then I quit drinking and dropped a handful, then HGH and dropped a handful. I now average 193. Of course, being a formerly fat person, I'd like to see 189, even though my face is sagging a bit with the weight loss and I have a new wrinkle in my inner elbow. Oh, well. I started DHEA and discovered I am incredibly sensitive to it. I take 2.5 mg every other day. I know people who can take 25-50 mg a day. I'm surprised it hasn't been a hot topic here. So, I'm on HGH, testosterone, and a smidge of DHEA. I realized, when I was driving down the road yesterday, that no longer feel tired all the time, which was a chronic complaint. Also, I had extensive pulmonary tests since I got short of breath at odd times.....I could row 45 minutes, but couldn't run up stairs. Long story short, I have asthma, and it is now controlled beautifully with Singulair. What was the question ?????? in Austin RNY April 1998 315/190s anyone ever take HGH? does anyone take HGH? (NOT to be confused with PQR, STUV, W, XY and Z--chortle) love, ceep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 This is copied from Vitamin Shoppe's website. Basically, DHEA declines with age and is part of newfangled anti-aging regimens. It boosts testosterone, may decrease fat, increase muscle, help sleep, help mood. ********************************************************* What does it do? Little is known about how dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA) works in the body.1 Confusing the picture is the fact that DHEA often has different effects in men, premenopausal women, and postmenopausal women.2 DHEA is the most prevalent of the hormones produced by the adrenal glands. After being secreted by the adrenal glands, it circulates in the bloodstream as DHEA-sulfate (DHEAS) and is converted as needed into other hormones. Supplementation with DHEAS has resulted in increased levels of testosterone and androstenedione, two steroid hormones.3 The conversion of DHEA into testosterone4 may account for the fact that low blood levels of DHEA have been reported in some men with erectile dysfunction. The findings of a double-blind trial using 50 mg supplements of DHEA taken daily for six months suggests that DHEA may improve erectile function in some men.5 Some,6 7 but not all,8 9 clinical trials have found that DHEA supplementation lowers fat mass without reducing total body weight.10 In one trial, the reduction in fat mass occurred in men but not in women.11 DHEA is believed to indirectly affect blood sugar levels, but information remains incomplete and contradictory. Attempts to affect blood sugar levels in humans have led to improvements,12 no effect,13 and, at very high amounts (1,600 mg DHEA per day), a worsening of tolerance to sugar.14 DHEA modulates immunity. A group of elderly men with low DHEA levels who were given 50 mg of DHEA per day for 20 weeks, experienced a significant activation of immune function.15 Postmenopausal women have also shown increased immune functioning in just three weeks when given DHEA in double-blind research.16 Some reports have suggested that DHEA might reduce the risk of heart disease, perhaps by lowering cholesterol levels. DHEA may also be a blood thinner, an effect that in theory should help protect against heart disease.17 However, most research supports the idea that DHEA protects against heart disease only weakly for men, and not at all for women.18 19 In fact, higher levels of DHEA and DHEAS have been associated with cardiovascular risk factors in women, including high blood pressure and smoking.20 Moreover, DHEA has also been reported to lower HDL (the " good " cholesterol).21 Until more is known, DHEA should not be used to protect against heart disease. Claims have appeared that DHEA is an anti-aging hormone. However, the fact that young people have higher levels of DHEA than older people does not necessarily mean that supplementing DHEA will make people younger. In some,22 but not all,23 double-blind trials, DHEA has improved the sense of well being in elderly individuals. In one double-blind trial, DHEA supplementation did appear to reduce some of the adverse effects of aging, though it did not create " supermen/superwomen. " 24 In that trial, healthy elderly women and men were given either 50 mg of DHEA or a placebo daily for one year. In addition to a re-establishment of more youthful levels of DHEAS, slight increases were also observed in other hormones, such as testosterone and estrogens. In women over 70 year of age, bone mineral loss was improved. A significant increase in most measures of libido was also seen in these older women. Improvements of the skin were also observed in both women and men, but particularly in women, in terms of hydration, thickness, pigmentation and production of sebum (oily secretion that lubricates the skin and hair). Systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), an autoimmune disease, has been linked to abnormalities in sex hormone metabolism.25 Supplementation with very large amounts of DHEA (200 mg per day) improved clinical status and reduced the number of exacerbations of SLE in a double-blind trial.26 A preliminary trial has confirmed the benefit of 50-200 mg per day of DHEA for people with SLE.27 DHEA may play some role in protecting against depression. Low DHEA levels have been reported in older women suffering from this condition, though at least one report has linked severe depression to increased DHEA levels. After six months using 50 mg DHEA per day, " a remarkable increase in perceived physical and psychological well-being " was reported in both men and women in one double-blind trial.28 In another double-blind trial, after only six weeks of taking DHEA at levels up to 90 mg per day, at least a 50% reduction in depression was seen in five of eleven patients.29 Other researchers have reported dramatic reductions in depression at extremely high amounts of DHEA (90-450 mg per day) given for six weeks to adults who first became depressed after age 40 (in men) or at the time of menopause (in women) in a double-blind trial.30 Limiting supplementation to only two weeks is inadequate in treating people with depression.31 Despite the dramatic results reported in trials lasting at least six weeks, some experts claim that in clinical practice, DHEA appears to be effective for only a minority of depressed people.32 Moreover, due to fears of potential side effects, most healthcare professionals remain concerned about the use of DHEA. As with other uses of DHEA, depressed people should not take this hormone without supervision from a healthcare professional. Where is it found? DHEA is produced by the adrenal glands. A synthetic form of this hormone is also available as a supplement in tablet, capsule, liquid, and sublingual form. Some products claim to contain " natural " DHEA precursors from wild yam. However, the body cannot convert these substances into DHEA33 (although a series of reactions in a laboratory can make the conversion). in Austin RNY April 1998 315/190s anyone ever take HGH? > > does anyone take HGH? > > > (NOT to be confused with PQR, STUV, W, XY and Z--chortle) > love, > ceep Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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