Re: Fw: 21 Months Post Op Duodenal Switch

[Guest guest]

said:

while RnY often causes misery. We are talking quality of life, are we not?

> >

I don't know many people who are 'living in misery' as you say. I actually

can count them on ONE hand. and in those cases it was poor surgery/bad

surgeon that caused a messed up RNY. and I know hundreds of RNY from

several states where I have lived and from these lists as well and also work

with over 500.

I know plenty of truly miserable people who never had surgery though.

I think you are preaching to the wrong list though - why not tell of the

benefits as you see them of the DS to a newbie list where they are

impressionable and can easily be influenced?

and I still maintain that eating fast food and large amounts is not healthy

and that the DS did nothing to change your eating habits, only time will

tell.

sue

[Guest guest]

- thank you for sharing and continued good luck to you.

I just wanted to comment that the RNY for me has not been misery - ever. I have

never thrown up, I eat what I choose to eat (I may choose carefully - but I do

choose) and after 4 years I eat like a normal thin person (6 small meals a day).

I have not reached my ultimate goal weight - but wear a size 12 or 14 pants and

a med or small shirt. I have achieved normalcy.

Marjie

12/9/99

Open RNY

-140ish

> DS is a vastly superior surgery to RnY. This hurts the feelings of

> those who have already had RnY and I'm sorry about that, but the

> differences between the two MUST be shown. Mine is just one

> experience, but it's a COMMON outcome from the DS proceedure while

> RnY often causes misery. We are talking quality of life, are we not?

[Guest guest]

<<while RnY often causes misery.>>

All of you in misery, raise your right hand. Okay, put down the Big Mac, and

raise your right hand. You aren't holding a Big Mac? Silly me. Is that

because you are in misery, or you just make better choices?

Choices. I thought so. Thanks.

Jac

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[Guest guest]

assuming this is for the group as well - I did not start this thread, did.

I believe the RNY is superior, and believes the DS is. for all those

clicking on 'return to sender' - it ain't me!! address your emails To the Group

please.

sue

>I would not say DS is vastly superior to RNY! I know many that are not happy

about their DS and wished they has the RNY.

I had the RNY and have lost 111 in less than 11 months with no problems, what so

ever! No pain/complications or dumping.

I have the quality of life I wanted and regained without any type of misery. I

would have it in a New York minute. But, I won't need it, since I've been so

successful, but to eat the protein/drink the water and take my vitamins.

I went from a 24/26 to a size 4 in 10 months, but most importantly......I have

gotten my good health back.

I for one will not tell you nor anyone that the DS or the RNY is the better of

the two. It doesn't matter to me, except that it worked for me and can for

anyone willing to follow the rules! We are all different and go different routes

to achieve the main goal....Health!

Too each his own and congratulations if it's worked for you and the same to me!

[Guest guest]

, I am celebrating my 5th anniversary on the 22nd of this month of my

open RNY and I want to know what MISERY you are talking about? I have no

misery. I eat things I want. I am even still losing weight. Granted it is

coming off slowly now, but since I want to lose some more...I am using my

tool and it IS coming off. I do NOT appreciate your superior attitude. I

want to know where I can ADD more quality to my life? Just what the HECK do

you think I am missing out on? My cholesterol has been low normal almost

since the beginning of my surgery. My blood pressure the same. Your holier

then thou attitude is offensive. I believe that ANY weight loss surgery is

WHAT you make of it. And since you are NOT walking in ALL of our shoes, you

have no idea that what you say is true.

Debbie &

in Gig Harbor

(170cm medial)

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-----Original Message-----

From: Sue Rudnicki

assuming this was meant for the list......

> I want to thank all of you who predicted my future failure on this

> surgery. It's inspired me to start taking my vitamins.

>

> DS is a vastly superior surgery to RnY. This hurts the feelings of

> those who have already had RnY and I'm sorry about that, but the

> differences between the two MUST be shown. Mine is just one

> experience, but it's a COMMON outcome from the DS proceedure while

> RnY often causes misery. We are talking quality of life, are we not?

>

> I'll be happy to post again in 2 more years. I hope I'll be just as

> happy then.

>

>

[Guest guest]

OK, even BEFORE WLS I hated Big Macs! I have NEVER liked Hamburgers. And

since I can't raise my hand because I am not in misery....can I finish

eating my sushi? Thank you. <grin>

Debbie &

in Gig Harbor

(170cm medial)

ladybostons@...

http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore

http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice

-----Original Message-----

From: Jacque Holdaway

<<while RnY often causes misery.>>

All of you in misery, raise your right hand. Okay, put down the Big Mac, and

raise your right hand. You aren't holding a Big Mac? Silly me. Is that

because you are in misery, or you just make better choices? Choices. I

thought so. Thanks.

Jac

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[Guest guest]

Thank you Debbie! I so agree with you! I am 10 1/2 year post

op open RNY-Dr. Fox/Dr. Oh patient. I have a 40 " common channel. I

lost over 150 pounds in 9 months and today after more than 10 years

weigh 130 pounds and I am 5'8 " , 52 year old post-memopausal femal on

hormones. I eat whatever I want whenever I want. Granted I cannot

eat a large amount in one sitting as my pouch is still very small

because I chose not to stretch it out. My tool works very very well

for me. Yes I have to supplement with 5 to 6 shakes every day, but

then I love my thick and creamy chocolate shakes-I am definetly a

protein perv! I do my vitamin and mineral supplementing every day

and I have more energy than most 30 year olds. I also look much

younger than my 52 years. Yes I do dump on milk and sugars, but so

what-I am glad I dump-keeps me straight. I have no problems with

regain, just the opposite-if I am not careful I tend to lose weight

and get too skinny-I currently wear a size 4/6 and can easily drop to

a size 2 if I do not eat high fat foods. So just why do you think

you WLS is so much better? Lets just see how you are doing in say 5

years. I know for a fact that many DS'ers have many many problems,

cannot get their wieght off, many only get 50% off and then have the

regain effect. Many throw up for months and months after surgery and

are limited as to what they can eat due to the nausea. Your surgery

is in no way superior to anyone else's. We each have to decide what

will work best for ourselves and how dare you come on this list with

your high and mighty attitude! This list is to support each other

and to be helpful-not slam anyone because of the type of surgery they

have. Maybe you should go to DS list where they just love to put

down RNY's then at that list you will have company but while you are

there try reading some of the posts-you may just be enlightened and

realize that DS'ers have issues just like any other procedure

I am so fed up with this WLS bashing and comparing whose procedure is

better-we should be supporting each other not tearing each other

apart. It should never ever matter what type of surgery a person has

had. Good grief this kind of attitude and prejudice is bad as

society's prejudice against fat people-you would think that

would have had enough of that and learned his lesson

Best regards,

EJ

Pre-op 270pounds

today 130 pounds-BMI 19

5'8 "

Dr Fox/Dr. Oh Open RNy Sept. 1993

> , I am celebrating my 5th anniversary on the 22nd of this month

of my

> open RNY and I want to know what MISERY you are talking about? I

have no

> misery. I eat things I want. I am even still losing weight. Granted

it is

> coming off slowly now, but since I want to lose some more...I am

using my

> tool and it IS coming off. I do NOT appreciate your superior

attitude. I

> want to know where I can ADD more quality to my life? Just what the

HECK do

> you think I am missing out on? My cholesterol has been low normal

almost

> since the beginning of my surgery. My blood pressure the same. Your

holier

> then thou attitude is offensive. I believe that ANY weight loss

surgery is

> WHAT you make of it. And since you are NOT walking in ALL of our

shoes, you

> have no idea that what you say is true.

>

> Debbie &

> in Gig Harbor

> (170cm medial)

> ladybostons@p...

> http://www.cafeshops.com/copsstore

> http://www.marykay.com/debbiemcneice

>

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Sue Rudnicki [mailto:rudni416@b...]

>

> assuming this was meant for the list......

>

>

>

> > I want to thank all of you who predicted my future failure on this

> > surgery. It's inspired me to start taking my vitamins.

> >

> > DS is a vastly superior surgery to RnY. This hurts the feelings

of

> > those who have already had RnY and I'm sorry about that, but the

> > differences between the two MUST be shown. Mine is just one

> > experience, but it's a COMMON outcome from the DS proceedure

while

> > RnY often causes misery. We are talking quality of life, are we

not?

> >

> > I'll be happy to post again in 2 more years. I hope I'll be just

as

> > happy then.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

paul

i do not wish you failure

i wish all MO people great success in all their weight loss efforts

whichever surgery or non surgery option they choose

i just do not find it significant to advocate a particular methodology

can i say what has worked for me? yes

can i learn from what others have said works for them? yes

does that entitle me to determine what is best for everyone? never

i wish you luck

i for one DO hope that you keep your weight off

i even hope u continue to post here, as all views have value in my opinion

janice

Fw: 21 Months Post Op Duodenal Switch

assuming this was meant for the list......

> I want to thank all of you who predicted my future failure on this

> surgery. It's inspired me to start taking my vitamins.

>

> DS is a vastly superior surgery to RnY. This hurts the feelings of

> those who have already had RnY and I'm sorry about that, but the

> differences between the two MUST be shown. Mine is just one

> experience, but it's a COMMON outcome from the DS proceedure while

> RnY often causes misery. We are talking quality of life, are we not?

>

> I'll be happy to post again in 2 more years. I hope I'll be just as

> happy then.

>

>

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