Re: Safflower oil / omega 6 AND Omega 3s

[Guest guest]

Along these same lines, my memory is that it's omega 3s we're aiming at and

trying to avoid omega 9s. I've taken evening primrose oil for years. What's a

better source? Krill or cod liver? The budget is why I've settled for EPO.

Thanks,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant,

and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled

past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet,

SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! Magnesium/Vits

A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

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> I've been using safflower oil but someone told me it's not a healthy oil b/c

it's so high in omega 6. What do you think? Sometimes I use it when I need an

oil that doesn't have much flavor.

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> UC-C 12/09

> SCD 1/10

> Daily, CLO, Magnesium, bromelain, acidophilus

> Mom of 2 crazy monkeys :-)

[Guest guest]

My family takes cod liver oil. I buy it from vitacost. I get the Carlson and give my whole family a shot of clo in a bit of juice every morning. From what I can tell it's the best source of omega 3 and it has D. The liquid is also a lot cheaper. I know most Americans get WAY too much omega 6 due to all the corn in everything. But as I make everything I eat maybe it's not a worry. But the guy who told me about safflower oil being high in omega 6 also said it's inflammatory. UC-C 12/09SCD 1/10Daily, CLO, Magnesium, bromelain, acidophilus Mom of 2 crazy monkeys :-)

Along these same lines, my memory is that it's omega 3s we're aiming at and trying to avoid omega 9s. I've taken evening primrose oil for years. What's a better source? Krill or cod liver? The budget is why I've settled for EPO.

Thanks,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant, and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet, SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! Magnesium/Vits A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were fungally-caused.

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> I've been using safflower oil but someone told me it's not a healthy oil b/c it's so high in omega 6. What do you think? Sometimes I use it when I need an oil that doesn't have much flavor.

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> UC-C 12/09

> SCD 1/10

> Daily, CLO, Magnesium, bromelain, acidophilus

> Mom of 2 crazy monkeys :-)

[Guest guest]

You are spot on -Omega 6's are what cause inflammation (while Omega 3

has anti-inflammatory properties). It is the Omega 3 vs. Omega 6 balance that we

are concerned with. Our diet used to roughly be a 1:2 (1:1 is optimal)- the

typical American diet today is somewhere around 20:1!

The information that is out there can be really deceiving though. For example,

walnuts and avocados are praised to for their Omega 3 content. Which is true,

however they are so high in Omega 6's that you are not getting the benefits of

any Omega 3's.

Walnuts (1 cup): Omega6- 10,799mg / Omega3- 2,574 mg (net 8,225mg Omega 6)

Avocado (1): Omega6- 3323mg / Omega3- 198mg (net 3,125 Omega 6)

And just to give you an idea of good Omega 3's- Salmon is the highest...

3oz Cooked Sockeye: Omega6- 26mg / Omega3- 1158mg (net 1,132 Omega 3)

In addition to nuts, tortilla chips, potato chips, sesame seeds and vegetable

oils are HUGE culprits. We don't eat any starches on SCD so we've eliminated a

lot of these problems! But, back to the oils... always better to use butter than

a vegetable oil And olive oil is the least of the worst if you have to pick

one.

1 Tbl. Butter= 61mg net Omega 6

1 Tbl. Olive Oil= 986mg net Omega 6

1 Tbl. Corn Oil= 7,793mg net Omega 6

1 Tbl. Safflower Oil= 10,149mg net Omega 6

-Joanna

> I know most Americans get WAY too much omega 6 due to all the corn in

everything. But as I make everything I eat maybe it's not a worry. But the guy

who told me about safflower oil being high in omega 6 also said it's

inflammatory.

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[Guest guest]

We've been using safflower oil to make mayo; olive oil was too strong. Does anyone have any other suggestions?Thanks, husband with Crohn's 10/09SCD 10/09no meds, no symptoms

[Guest guest]

At 10:30 PM 9/20/2010, you wrote:

We've been using safflower oil

to make mayo; olive oil was too strong. Does anyone have any other

suggestions?

I've used safflower and sunflower oils to make mayo. Sometimes, if I want

a thicker mayo, I'll use melted coconut oil as half of my oil, and then

give the mayo a chance to set up after its made.

Some folks swear by grape seed oil, or even walnut oil. One of these

days, I'd like to try walnut oil.....

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

At 05:23 PM 9/19/2010, you wrote:

Along these same lines, my

memory is that it's omega 3s we're aiming at and trying to avoid omega

9s. I've taken evening primrose oil for years. What's a better source?

Krill or cod liver? The budget is why I've settled for

EPO.

It's a question, not of the kind, but of the balances between them. We

need more Omega 3s than we do Omega 6s. However, gammalinleic acid (GLA)

which is the active item in evening primrose oil, falls in another class

altogether. It's an Omega 6 which is strongly anti-inflammatory.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

I'm just catching up on some posts-

Marilyn and others,

How do we know the proper balance of the 3-6-9's and how does one achieve that balance?

Marilyn, I make my mayo out of the walnut oil and it really is wonderful--a hint of smoky flavor that tastes like 'real' mayonnaise to me. I don't make it with anything else. Please tell me how you like it when you do make it.

Terry

[Guest guest]

At 10:55 PM 9/29/2010, you wrote:

Marilyn and others,

How do we know the proper balance of the 3-6-9's and how does one achieve

that balance?

Marilyn, I make my mayo out of the walnut oil and it really is

wonderful--a hint of smoky flavor that tastes like 'real' mayonnaise to

me. I don't make it with anything else. Please tell me how you like it

when you do make it.

Terry,

I'll have to go look it up... I just know I aim for lots more Omega 3s

and 6s, with the exception of evening primrose oil / gamma linolenic

acid.

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/othernuts/omega3fa/

is a starting point for reading. I vaguely remember something about

needing at least 2x the amount of O3 as O6, and these days, we're the

other 'way round.

I think I'm going to have to get some walnut oil the next time I'm at

Whole Foods. That sounds yummy.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Marilyn, thanks for the link--- Don't spend time looking it up for me, I can do the research. I just asked because I thought it might be something easy on the tip of your tongue.

I know everyone talks about Omega 3's and we add them to our diet, but I had a thought that perhaps we're not balancing correctly.

Terry

[Guest guest]

At 06:50 AM 9/30/2010, you wrote:

Marilyn, thanks for the link---

Don't spend time looking it up for me, I can do the research. I just

asked because I thought it might be something easy on the tip of your

tongue.

I know everyone talks about Omega 3's and we add them to our diet, but I

had a thought that perhaps we're not balancing

correctly.

That's one that I've researched in the past, for me, but it wasn't

something which came up regularly, so I've spaced the exact details. I do

know that modern diets can have as high as a 20:1 ration of Omega 6 to

Omega 3, and that Omega 3 should be greater than Omega 6.

<grin> If you find some good stuff, please share it with

us!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Hey Terry! I see a integrative doc here who focuses on this balance. If you want

to be really technical, there is a free software program you can get from the

NIH site. You enter what/how much you've eaten, and it calculates amounts and

percentages for you. It's a very primitive program, but if you can use it for

about a week, you will get the hang of it and naturally learn to balance them

(or take some extra fish oil to help out

Here is the link!

http://efaeducation.nih.gov/sig/kim.html

-Joanna

SCD 9/2009, Crohn's 1992, 20mg Prednisone

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> Marilyn, thanks for the link--- Don't spend time looking it up for me, I can

do the research. I just asked because I thought it might be something easy on

the tip of your tongue.

>

> I know everyone talks about Omega 3's and we add them to our diet, but I had a

thought that perhaps we're not balancing correctly.

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> Terry

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Joanna! I'll look into it.

Terry