Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 There is quite often posts here about how we in our fat lives were and unfortunately many still are food abusers/overeaters. However this is not true for everyone. I was not and still am not a junk food junkie, food abuser, overeater. I cannot stand to eat fast foods or fat foods. (But do have a thing for chocolate . I did have a body that was my enemy. I did not overeat, I did excerise and still I was plagued with obesity. As the years went by dieting turned into over eating because of sever hunger. I saw the pattern and stopped. Once I stopped dieting I settled in at about 230#. Way too much for my 5'2 " frame but that's how god had made me. Then WLS and gods screw up is fixed. I was in OA for years and saw the pain of people who used food as a drug and always wondered why I didn't feel like " yeah this is me " . At one point when my mother in law was visiting with her sister for 2 weeks I ate exaclty what they ate. Exactly. We had an experiment going. They were 92# and 110# respectively and we were all within a inch in height. After 2 weeks of eating with them I'd gained 7#. It was then I realized something was very very very wrong with me. Now I'm fixed and I thank god and everything else that I live in a time and place where I was fixable. I know many still struggle with food demons and I do have empathy for all who do. By the time I had my WLS I hated food so much because of what it did to me. If I could of not eaten and not been in pain I would have stopped eating altogether. I just want to share that food abuse is not a truism of all of the obese. CAT Dr W /Alvarado 2/2002 230/104 PS I LOVE food now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 For many of us, it's all about chemicals. However, the chemicals can get in control, and then we agree with society that we are weak willed and lacking in character. I always have to say there ARE people with eating disorders, of course, but they are not the majority of us. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Not all of us > There is quite often posts here about how we in our fat lives were > and unfortunately many still are food abusers/overeaters. However > this is not true for everyone. > > I was not and still am not a junk food junkie, food abuser, > overeater. I cannot stand to eat fast foods or fat foods. (But do > have a thing for chocolate . I did have a body that was my enemy. > I did not overeat, I did excerise and still I was plagued with > obesity. As the years went by dieting turned into over eating > because of sever hunger. I saw the pattern and stopped. Once I > stopped dieting I settled in at about 230#. Way too much for my 5'2 " > frame but that's how god had made me. > > Then WLS and gods screw up is fixed. I was in OA for years and saw > the pain of people who used food as a drug and always wondered why I > didn't feel like " yeah this is me " . > > At one point when my mother in law was visiting with her sister for 2 > weeks I ate exaclty what they ate. Exactly. We had an experiment > going. They were 92# and 110# respectively and we were all within a > inch in height. After 2 weeks of eating with them I'd gained 7#. It > was then I realized something was very very very wrong with me. > > Now I'm fixed and I thank god and everything else that I live in a > time and place where I was fixable. > > I know many still struggle with food demons and I do have empathy for > all who do. By the time I had my WLS I hated food so much because of > what it did to me. If I could of not eaten and not been in pain I > would have stopped eating altogether. > > I just want to share that food abuse is not a truism of all of the > obese. > > CAT > Dr W /Alvarado 2/2002 > 230/104 > > PS I LOVE food now. > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 I agree that it may be all about chemicals, the lack of or the abundance of. Whichever your condition is. However, for me, I had to admit to myself that whatever the unfairness of the cards I was dealt it was up to me to make better choices. I chose too many bad ones. Whatever the reasons I got fat (chemicals, self-infliction, food disorders, genetics, yadda yadda.) I had to recognize that I have a life-long problem. I can not take myself off the hook. The surgery helped with the constant hunger...my brain has to help me make better choices. I feel like a prize-fighter who has to stay in training all the time to be any good. I am indeed only talking about the trials and tribulations dealing with fat in my life. Sure, sometimes I still drag food to the TV, but my choices are not damaging to my health or body. Mostly because I realize that the fat Carol may be lingering behind the ropes in the front row. Those chemicals helped to create bad habits, those of which I still fight and have to make mental assent to on a daily basis, how about an hourly basis. (Depends how busy I am and what day we are talking about.) I am a fat person in a thin body with a 2.5 year old thin mind trying to play catch-up with 40 years of bad habits. I am in the ring most of the time. " Ding " there goes Round 3. Carol G. (who is still finding her way to lifelong maintanance. Who still worries about years ahead and who does not want bounceback. So far so good.) > > For many of us, it's all about chemicals. > > However, the chemicals can get in control, and then we agree with > society that we are weak willed and lacking in character. > > I always have to say there ARE people with eating disorders, of > course, but they are not the majority of us. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Vitalady, Inc. T > www.vitalady.com > > If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: > https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 A point I have been trying to make over and over again--that for SOME of us at least, there are things inside that are screwed up that no amount of vigilance or will power can " fix. " My mission now is to make people aware that for a minority (and no one knows yet how big or small a minority it is) of " us " the fix is NOT in, not permanently, and the failed fix may NOT be fixable, even in this time and place. If your stoma relaxes (and nothing YOU do can cause that) and your original surgery is too close to the esophagus, you can be left with no remedy. A failed surgery--at least in part. Pouch doesn't work if your stoma is kaput. All you can rely on is the malabsorptive part. Which doesn't help a whole lot if you're hungry all the time bcuz your pouch never gets full and you're back to the same old same old of trying to do it all with vigilance and will power -- the same things that never worked in the past no matter how strictly you adhered to them. Carol A ----------------------------- In a message dated 12/5/2003 11:04:32 AM Central Standard Time, dlc2@... writes: > At one point when my mother in law was visiting with her sister for 2 > weeks I ate exaclty what they ate. Exactly. We had an experiment > going. They were 92# and 110# respectively and we were all within a > inch in height. After 2 weeks of eating with them I'd gained 7#. It > was then I realized something was very very very wrong with me. > > Now I'm fixed and I thank god and everything else that I live in a > time and place where I was fixable. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 kinda like having a little heroin ya know janice Re: Not all of us For many of us, it's all about chemicals. However, the chemicals can get in control, and then we agree with society that we are weak willed and lacking in character. I always have to say there ARE people with eating disorders, of course, but they are not the majority of us. Thanks, Vitalady, Inc. T www.vitalady.com If you are interested in PayPal, please click here: https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com Not all of us > There is quite often posts here about how we in our fat lives were > and unfortunately many still are food abusers/overeaters. However > this is not true for everyone. > > I was not and still am not a junk food junkie, food abuser, > overeater. I cannot stand to eat fast foods or fat foods. (But do > have a thing for chocolate . I did have a body that was my enemy. > I did not overeat, I did excerise and still I was plagued with > obesity. As the years went by dieting turned into over eating > because of sever hunger. I saw the pattern and stopped. Once I > stopped dieting I settled in at about 230#. Way too much for my 5'2 " > frame but that's how god had made me. > > Then WLS and gods screw up is fixed. I was in OA for years and saw > the pain of people who used food as a drug and always wondered why I > didn't feel like " yeah this is me " . > > At one point when my mother in law was visiting with her sister for 2 > weeks I ate exaclty what they ate. Exactly. We had an experiment > going. They were 92# and 110# respectively and we were all within a > inch in height. After 2 weeks of eating with them I'd gained 7#. It > was then I realized something was very very very wrong with me. > > Now I'm fixed and I thank god and everything else that I live in a > time and place where I was fixable. > > I know many still struggle with food demons and I do have empathy for > all who do. By the time I had my WLS I hated food so much because of > what it did to me. If I could of not eaten and not been in pain I > would have stopped eating altogether. > > I just want to share that food abuse is not a truism of all of the > obese. > > CAT > Dr W /Alvarado 2/2002 > 230/104 > > PS I LOVE food now. > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 I agree TOTALLY Cat. I think this is why the medical arena does not have ALL the answer. There are several reasons ppl can be overweight or obese. They are different animals and one can ONLY talk to their own habits and not assume all of us have the same issues. Some obese people do not understand this..they think it's only due to excess calories or bad food choices. While I do not hold all the answers, I do know for a fact it does not always have to do with theat stuff. I really let folks know when they assume that all of us are at fault for our condition...that it is a crock to say that about ALL people. Couldn't be more on target. Sherra Not all of us > There is quite often posts here about how we in our fat lives were > and unfortunately many still are food abusers/overeaters. However > this is not true for everyone. > > I was not and still am not a junk food junkie, food abuser, > overeater. I cannot stand to eat fast foods or fat foods. (But do > have a thing for chocolate . I did have a body that was my enemy. > I did not overeat, I did excerise and still I was plagued with > obesity. As the years went by dieting turned into over eating > because of sever hunger. I saw the pattern and stopped. Once I > stopped dieting I settled in at about 230#. Way too much for my 5'2 " > frame but that's how god had made me. > > Then WLS and gods screw up is fixed. I was in OA for years and saw > the pain of people who used food as a drug and always wondered why I > didn't feel like " yeah this is me " . > > At one point when my mother in law was visiting with her sister for 2 > weeks I ate exaclty what they ate. Exactly. We had an experiment > going. They were 92# and 110# respectively and we were all within a > inch in height. After 2 weeks of eating with them I'd gained 7#. It > was then I realized something was very very very wrong with me. > > Now I'm fixed and I thank god and everything else that I live in a > time and place where I was fixable. > > I know many still struggle with food demons and I do have empathy for > all who do. By the time I had my WLS I hated food so much because of > what it did to me. If I could of not eaten and not been in pain I > would have stopped eating altogether. > > I just want to share that food abuse is not a truism of all of the > obese. > > CAT > Dr W /Alvarado 2/2002 > 230/104 > > PS I LOVE food now. > > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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