Re: Fed Up with GI Doc's

[Guest guest]

Hey !

I was right behind you while you were shouting from the mountaintop!!! Feel free

to vent anytime. I think it's quite normal to be a member of this group and feel

extremely frustrated with our " take a pill and call me in the morning " doctors.

I'm so thankful to belong to a group of people who are proactive in their health

care and focused on treating the whole body instead of putting band aids on each

symptom.

Wish I could help you find an open-minded doctor, but I'd be lying if I didn't

say that, selfishly, I would like to find one first for myself!

-Joanna

SCD 9/2009, Crohn's 1992, 20mg prednisone

> Anyone recommend a good GI doctor in Seattle.  One that believes in the

> Holistic/Natural side and even SCD?

>  

> , WA State

>  

[Guest guest]

Hey ! I'm in the Seattle are too! The first doc I saw was at the UW

Digestive Disease Center. He did a great job diagnosing me, but said that diet

would play no role at all! Since then I've been going to Dr. Catanzaro at

Health and Wellness Institute. He's a Naturopath, and he knows his stuff! I

would HIGHLY recommend getting in to see him.

Pam

www.newfoundsun.wordpress.com

> >

> > I haven't been so lucky with other specialists, although I usually,

> > eventually, find one that helps. I find that knowing the medical

> > terminology helps with communication, so my experiences with healthcare

> >professionals have improved a bit over the past seven years. All that

research

> >paying off! >>

> >

> > Kim M.

>

> Know what? My experience has been just the opposite! I think the more

competent

> and intelligent we appear to SOME doctors, the more threatening is may be so

> they react negatively. I'm an extremely feminine and low-key person but I DO

> come across as well-informed.

>

> I use proper terminology and the responses I've gotten over the years, even

when

> I take in journal articles, usually amounts to, " It hasn't been scientifically

> proven " ... Dismissal even in the face of documentation! None so blind as those

> who will not see.

>

> I HAVE seen slowly-growing acceptance, though. VERY slow-growing. May I live

so

> long.... I'm really TIRED, after almost 40 yrs., of being so far ahead of the

> medical profession. Tired -- and unspeakably grateful!! But I AM living long

> enough to hear my kidz slowly accepting that what I said 35 yrs. ago is TRUE.

> ANOTHER great blessing!!

> Grateful Artful Carol

> Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical,

Inhalant,

> and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems

well-controlled

> past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti- yeast

diet,

> SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD!

Magnesium/Vits

> A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown

kids

> recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

> fungally-caused.

>

[Guest guest]

Is this doctor in downtown Seattle? I'm in the south end, nearer Tacoma and

would like a different doctor for my 15 yo son. My naturopath doesn't really

know much about IBD and she's not very helpful. His GI just wants to pump him

full of immune suppressants and/or do surgery.

Thanks,

Liz

> Hey ! I'm in the Seattle are too! The first doc I saw was at the UW

Digestive Disease Center. He did a great job diagnosing me, but said that diet

would play no role at all! Since then I've been going to Dr. Catanzaro at

Health and Wellness Institute. He's a Naturopath, and he knows his stuff! I

would HIGHLY recommend getting in to see him.

>

> Pam

> www.newfoundsun.wordpress.com

[Guest guest]

I've been thinking the same thoughts lately, and I've come to one

conclusion: it's a capitalistic conspiracy.

Here are my reasons:

1. If you look at how veterinarians tread " canine ibd " or " cat ibd "

the first line of defense is trying a new diet BEFORE subscribing

meditation. Google this, you'll see. Also, veterinarians agree that

diet CAN play a role on animals (not _always_ but CAN). Unlike medical doctors.

2. Doctors get all sorts of benefits each time they perscribe drugs by the

pharmaceutical companies that endorse them. Also doctors benefit from having to

" monitor " you by giving you a drug. I.e., they perscribe a drug and they " need "

you to come and talk to them once a month. Give me a break.

3. And this is the one that MOSTLY angers me. The dreaded CCFA " Crohn's Colits

Foundation of America " is completely sponsored

by pharmaceutical companies. Check this out:

http://www.ccfa.org/pharmasponsors

And in their discussion of Crohn's their first line is:

" There is no evidence that any particular foods cause or contribute to Crohn's

disease or other types of IBD " (http://www.ccfa.org/info/about/crohns)

No Evidence my A$$ it took me exactly 10 minutes googling this to find the SCD

Diet (Dr. Haas and Gotschall), the vegan juice diet (as proposed by

Klein), the Maker's diet (Jordan Rubin), Macrobiotic Diets (as proposed by Gini

Harper), Low Carb Diets (as Proposed by Dr. Lutz and Atkins), and hundreds if

not thousands of testimonials of people claiming their effect on their IBD.

Here's a girl that is on a Macrobiotic diet that shows it's effect on her

Crohn's (before and after colonoscopy photos)

http://megansmind-holisticwellness.blogspot.com/2010/03/incurable-disease-cured-\

proof-that.html

TRUST ME, I am as livid with doctors as you are. And one day, it would be a

dream of mine to sue to the pants off the CCFA and this cruel medical industry

who cares more for dogs and cats than they do for people.

> >

> > I haven't been so lucky with other specialists, although I usually,

> > eventually, find one that helps. I find that knowing the medical

> > terminology helps with communication, so my experiences with healthcare

> >professionals have improved a bit over the past seven years. All that

research

> >paying off! >>

> >

> > Kim M.

>

> Know what? My experience has been just the opposite! I think the more

competent

> and intelligent we appear to SOME doctors, the more threatening is may be so

> they react negatively. I'm an extremely feminine and low-key person but I DO

> come across as well-informed.

>

> I use proper terminology and the responses I've gotten over the years, even

when

> I take in journal articles, usually amounts to, " It hasn't been scientifically

> proven " ... Dismissal even in the face of documentation! None so blind as those

> who will not see.

>

> I HAVE seen slowly-growing acceptance, though. VERY slow-growing. May I live

so

> long.... I'm really TIRED, after almost 40 yrs., of being so far ahead of the

> medical profession. Tired -- and unspeakably grateful!! But I AM living long

> enough to hear my kidz slowly accepting that what I said 35 yrs. ago is TRUE.

> ANOTHER great blessing!!

> Grateful Artful Carol

> Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical,

Inhalant,

> and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems

well-controlled

> past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti- yeast

diet,

> SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD!

Magnesium/Vits

> A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown

kids

> recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

> fungally-caused.

>

[Guest guest]

I did google canine IBD- the treatment made sense!! They discuss medication, but

first diet, probiotics, omega 3's.

I think the CCFA website is the most depressing thing to read and I won't even

look at it.

Doctors today are between a rock and a hard place. They have to follow the

standards of care in their communities, and if they don't, they risk getting

sued if anything goes wrong. The standard of care is set usually by the teaching

hospitals- and current research ( influenced by big pharma?). Medical boards

strictly regulate the standard of practice. I'm not defending them- my own

experience with my GI doc was traumatic-. However, if not for these conditions,

perhaps some of them would consider looking at things like diet and such.

Veterinarians are trained in a completely separate system. There is obviously

less profit in veterinary pharmacology- so ( and I am not sure about this) I

would expect that there is less influence from big pharma, insurance and such.

The malpractice issue is much less, there are less training centers, and they

are regulated by entirely different boards. It is no wonder, that they are free

to consider diet and other alternatives to big pharma.

Sadly, many forces are influencing health care these days.

PJ

> > >

> > > I haven't been so lucky with other specialists, although I usually,

> > > eventually, find one that helps. I find that knowing the medical

> > > terminology helps with communication, so my experiences with healthcare

> > >professionals have improved a bit over the past seven years. All that

research

> > >paying off! >>

> > >

> > > Kim M.

> >

> > Know what? My experience has been just the opposite! I think the more

competent

> > and intelligent we appear to SOME doctors, the more threatening is may be so

> > they react negatively. I'm an extremely feminine and low-key person but I DO

> > come across as well-informed.

> >

> > I use proper terminology and the responses I've gotten over the years, even

when

> > I take in journal articles, usually amounts to, " It hasn't been

scientifically

> > proven " ... Dismissal even in the face of documentation! None so blind as

those

> > who will not see.

> >

> > I HAVE seen slowly-growing acceptance, though. VERY slow-growing. May I live

so

> > long.... I'm really TIRED, after almost 40 yrs., of being so far ahead of

the

> > medical profession. Tired -- and unspeakably grateful!! But I AM living long

> > enough to hear my kidz slowly accepting that what I said 35 yrs. ago is

TRUE.

> > ANOTHER great blessing!!

> > Grateful Artful Carol

> > Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical,

Inhalant,

> > and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems

well-controlled

> > past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti- yeast

diet,

> > SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD!

Magnesium/Vits

> > A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown

kids

> > recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

> > fungally-caused.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

No, he's about 10 minutes north of Seattle. HOWEVER....this doctor has Crohn's

himself, so he knows about the disease! Yet, I do find it hard to put my foot

down in terms of supplements that have illegals in them. At the least, you

could call the clinic and ask for someone down south that they can recommend?

Pam

>

> Is this doctor in downtown Seattle? I'm in the south end, nearer Tacoma and

would like a different doctor for my 15 yo son. My naturopath doesn't really

know much about IBD and she's not very helpful. His GI just wants to pump him

full of immune suppressants and/or do surgery.

>

> Thanks,

> Liz

>

> > Hey ! I'm in the Seattle are too! The first doc I saw was at the UW

Digestive Disease Center. He did a great job diagnosing me, but said that diet

would play no role at all! Since then I've been going to Dr. Catanzaro at

Health and Wellness Institute. He's a Naturopath, and he knows his stuff! I

would HIGHLY recommend getting in to see him.

> >

> > Pam

> > www.newfoundsun.wordpress.com

>

[Guest guest]

Also, the dog and cat natural diet is not the processed stuff sold today. I

wonder if dog and cat IBD is on the increase?

PJ

> > > >

> > > > I haven't been so lucky with other specialists, although I usually,

> > > > eventually, find one that helps. I find that knowing the medical

> > > > terminology helps with communication, so my experiences with healthcare

> > > >professionals have improved a bit over the past seven years. All that

research

> > > >paying off! >>

> > > >

> > > > Kim M.

> > >

> > > Know what? My experience has been just the opposite! I think the more

competent

> > > and intelligent we appear to SOME doctors, the more threatening is may be

so

> > > they react negatively. I'm an extremely feminine and low-key person but I

DO

> > > come across as well-informed.

> > >

> > > I use proper terminology and the responses I've gotten over the years,

even when

> > > I take in journal articles, usually amounts to, " It hasn't been

scientifically

> > > proven " ... Dismissal even in the face of documentation! None so blind as

those

> > > who will not see.

> > >

> > > I HAVE seen slowly-growing acceptance, though. VERY slow-growing. May I

live so

> > > long.... I'm really TIRED, after almost 40 yrs., of being so far ahead of

the

> > > medical profession. Tired -- and unspeakably grateful!! But I AM living

long

> > > enough to hear my kidz slowly accepting that what I said 35 yrs. ago is

TRUE.

> > > ANOTHER great blessing!!

> > > Grateful Artful Carol

> > > Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical,

Inhalant,

> > > and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems

well-controlled

> > > past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti- yeast

diet,

> > > SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD!

Magnesium/Vits

> > > A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2

grown kids

> > > recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

> > > fungally-caused.

> > >

> >

>