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I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that I

would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier there

were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to tell

you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my oral

surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried all the

way home. Just needed to vent.

Rene`

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Hi Rene,

I'm really sorry that this whole process has been so slow-going for

you. Sometimes it just feels like it will take forever and that you

must have the most screwed up mouth ever. At least, I remember

feeling that way, and on more than one occaision too.... I still

remember them, and they more than once brought me to tears too with

all the built up anticipation being replaced with disappointment and

frustration.... But, you will get through this and you're a member of

this group, so you already know that you're not alone! We're all here

to cheer you on and to listen. I'm sorry you've had a hard day and

hard time of it. This process can be so hard and stressful when being

tossed around between different doctors and different specialists all

saying different things..... but this time will pass too.... Hang in

there and I'll be thinking about you! When is your appt. at UNC?

SOON, I hope!

Katja :)

> I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that I

> would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

there

> were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

tell

> you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my oral

> surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried all

the

> way home. Just needed to vent.

>

> Rene`

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Rene,

Sorry to hear that you have to wait a little longer. It may be hard

for you but try to look at it this way... It shows that your ortho and

your oral surgeon really care about your case. They are cautious and

want the best outcome possible for you. Think " slow but sure " .

Hope you'll get some answers from UNC and get to start the whole

process soon.

Kwan

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Hi Rene,

Sorry to hear of your disappointment... the hardest thing about the

whole process, I think, is patience.

I remember waiting a year before getting braces, after originally

talking to my dentist....it's been 2.5 years and I'm now 12 days post

op... so your time will come.

it's better that they spend the time planning and getting is right for

you!

All the best,

Suzy

> I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that I

> would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

there

> were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to tell

> you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my oral

> surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried all

the

> way home. Just needed to vent.

>

> Rene`

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Hey, Rene,

It's hard being at the beginning of all of this, especially since you

read so many posts about people getting surgery dates, getting braces

off, etc. When I first joined these groups, I thought I would never

get through it all, it seemed to take forever.

It took about 12 months from referral to ortho, to consult with ortho,

to consult with surgeon, to being measured for my ALF appliances, to

actually getting them fitted.

Once you do get going, at some point, time will start to really fly

by, and you'll wonder how you ever thought it was going slowly. Until

then, hang in there. There's always a reason why things don't happen

when you want them to.

> I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that I

> would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

there

> were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

tell

> you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my oral

> surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried all

the

> way home. Just needed to vent.

>

> Rene`

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Hi Katja,

Thanks for your understanding. I have a lot of support at home, but

I feel that the only people that understand are the people that have

gone through it. I don't know when my appt at UNC is. The ortho

tried to call while I was there, but had to leave a message for the

doc. She is supposed to call me when they call her back. I should

hear from her tomorrow. She is referring me to the faculty staff and

did not feel that the students should do the work on me. I don't

know how that works at a teaching facility.

Rene

> > I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that

I

> > would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> > problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

> there

> > were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

> tell

> > you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> > months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

oral

> > surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> > didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

all

> the

> > way home. Just needed to vent.

> >

> > Rene`

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Kwan, you're right. My surgeon is alright with doing the surgery but

can't do anything until the Ortho is done. However, he did tell me

that if UNC wanted to do the actual surgery too not to fight it. He

says that I should feel confident in all the staff there.

Rene

> Rene,

>

> Sorry to hear that you have to wait a little longer. It may be hard

> for you but try to look at it this way... It shows that your ortho and

> your oral surgeon really care about your case. They are cautious and

> want the best outcome possible for you. Think " slow but sure " .

>

> Hope you'll get some answers from UNC and get to start the whole

> process soon.

>

> Kwan

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Hi Suzy,

I have stated in previous post that patience it not my strong suit.

Maybe this is my lesson. I hope I can get in soon. Thanks for your

concern. I was ready to throw in the towel earlier, but the ortho

did say that the longer I waited the worse it was getting. I figured

by the time I was 40 I wouldn't be able to eat and would have an IV

for nourishment. That would show them. HAHA Sometimes I just have

to wait for logic to set in.

Rene`

> > I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that

I

> > would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> > problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

> there

> > were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

tell

> > you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> > months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

oral

> > surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> > didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

all

> the

> > way home. Just needed to vent.

> >

> > Rene`

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Hey ,

Thanks. I have gotten so much support from this group today. I

appreciate it so much. I can't wait for the time to start flying

by. I do appreciate you sharing your experiences. It lets me know

that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks again.

Rene`

> > I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that

I

> > would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> > problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

> there

> > were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

> tell

> > you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> > months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

oral

> > surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> > didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

all

> the

> > way home. Just needed to vent.

> >

> > Rene`

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Hi Rene,

You're welcome. You'll get there, everyone's path through this is

different. Enjoy the ride if you can, and keep us informed!

A good sense of humour is handy too, particularly when you get to the

drooling and food-on-your-face-but-can't-feel-it stages : )

> Hey ,

> Thanks. I have gotten so much support from this group today. I

> appreciate it so much. I can't wait for the time to start flying

> by. I do appreciate you sharing your experiences. It lets me know

> that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Thanks again.

>

> Rene`

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Rene - I am SO sorry to hear about the delay in the start of your

treatment. Sounds like your OD and OS just want to provide the very

best care for you, and they're concerned enough to send you to UNC.

I think you have two smart doctors taking care of you, and they're

perfectionists too. I know how anxious you were to get going with

the braces; just hang in there - it WILL happen for you! When is

your appointment at UNC? By all means let your docs know how

concerned and upset you are about this, and definitely ask lots of

questions. My heart goes out to you; just try to hang in there,

okay? Take care. Venting is always welcome here. ~~~ Diane (Idaho)--

- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " reni_mill "

<reni_mill@y...> wrote:

> I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that I

> would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

there

> were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

tell

> you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

oral

> surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

all the

> way home. Just needed to vent.

>

> Rene`

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Hi Rene,

I understand your impatience! I worked at doctor's office when I was

having my surgery and we always marveled at how many people wanted

instantaneous appointments.... when it came time for MY OWN doctors

appts that went straight out the nearest window open or closed! I

HATE waiting for that stuff! " Can't you get me in

today?? " " Please!?!? " I even called my ortho recently when I was

freaking out about my post-op canted bite if he could get me in for

my " emotional " emergency. :) I told them my mouth was fine, but that

I couldn't wait 5 more days for my regularly scheduled appointment

because I was freaking out NOW!! I asked if they could fit me in for

the sake of my poor frazzled nerves. They were wonderful enough to

get me in that day (that isn't to say that they probably think I am a

psycho! :) ). It is particularly hard because that doesn't happen

with surgery consults and sometimes you just get to sit on your hands

and wait for those appts. Ugh. I totally hate that.... so I will be

sitting on my hands right along with you waiting to hear when your

appointment is and then waiting to hear how it goes. I totally

understand that impatience!

I don't know if my situation was remotely similar to yours... but my

surgeon works inconjuction with a local med school. I know that he

gets a group of residents that study under him and work with him. I

know he did the surgery, but that they were involved in and learning

from my case. I don't know if that is similar to your situation. I

wasn't referred the the med school however, but directly to that

surgeon who has his own practice, but also works at the school's

hospital and works with those residents in a certain capacity. I'm

not sure what the extent of it is, but for what it's worth, that was

my experience with a " teaching " surgeon.

So I understand better, you had your OMS consult today and the

surgeon wants you to consult with UNC about doing your orthodontics

before doing anything else? I'm sorry I'm so slow! I just wasn't sure

I caught what exactly transpired- which specialist referred you to

which specialist for what- is the OS recommending that UNC do your

orthodontics there?

I'll be waiting to hear what you find out about your UNC appointment.

:) Katja

> > > I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking

that

> I

> > > would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently,

my

> > > problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC.

Earlier

> > there

> > > were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able

to

> > tell

> > > you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for

four

> > > months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

> oral

> > > surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho.

I

> > > didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

> all

> > the

> > > way home. Just needed to vent.

> > >

> > > Rene`

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Hi Rene,

I had multiple setbacks too. It is upsetting. I was preauthorized

from my insurance really quickly, and I thought that was going to be

the tough part! UGH!

I just got my braces a week and a half ago. It does get here, and

it may be a little different time frame than you usually hear around

here, but it does get here. I am actually used to the braces - well

pretty much. I have some pot roast in my back molar tonight, and

have flossed and brushed and can't seem to find where it is hiding,

but I KNOW IT IS THERE!!! lol The first few days I had my braces

after anxiously awaiting getting started, I wondered what on earth I

had done to myself! lol But as your mouth settles in, it is much

better.

I remember feeling down by the set backs, but now that I am in

progress, it was all worth it. I am now caught in the less-patience

mold. Less patience for the two years I need to be in braces, less

patience for the cleaning routine, less patience for the

explainations as to why I would do this when my teeth weren't that

bad. UGH, one more time! It is not my teeth that are the problem,

it is my jaw - that is for family members who cant remember this

from the last last time I told them this!! lol

But I can tell you that being in the less-patience mold is better

than the waiting to get started mold. And you will be there soon

too!

Hugs,

Fran

> I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that I

> would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

there

> were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

tell

> you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

oral

> surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

all the

> way home. Just needed to vent.

>

> Rene`

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Hey Diane,

Thanks! I feel a little better today. I was just so disappointed

yesterday. I feel like I have gotten nowhere. I know I have, but

I'm just so frustrated. I do appreciate that they readily sent me

elsewhere when they felt it was over their heads. I would like my

original surgeon to do the surgery, but he feels that if they want to

do a beginning-to-end approach it would benefit me and says he will

cheer me on from the sidelines. He's great. I guess I will find out

when I go to UNC. At least I am fortunate enough to live so close.

I called the OD this afternoon and UNC had not called yet. Her

secretary is gone this week and she is not sure where the other #'s

are. I hope they call tomorrow. She did say that it looked like I

would need upper/lower/ and bone grafting on top.

How is everything going with the braces? Are your teeth still moving

quickly. I will join you in the brace club soon. I just know it.

Rene

> > I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that

I

> > would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> > problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

> there

> > were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

> tell

> > you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> > months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

> oral

> > surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> > didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

> all the

> > way home. Just needed to vent.

> >

> > Rene`

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Thanks. I guess we have similar personalities. At work, people call

me and in my mind I'm thinking, " okay, let me off the phone and I

could get something done " . I don't understand other people not

having patience, but I don't have any. Somewhere in my upbringing I

didn't learn the lesson about the world not revolving around my

wants. I call it 'only child syndrome' or OCS :)

No, yesterday was my consult with the OD to go over the treatment

plan, but after they got all the Xrays, MRI, molds, ect, they felt

like it was more than they could do there. They (there are two in

the office) felt that I needed a multidisciplinary team to look at

everything together and said that I had some severe issues going on.

She said that if they did this wrong, they could cause a lot of

problems.

When I left there, I went to see my OS (drop-in) because I think they

should be available to me at anytime HAHA. He talked with me and

agreed with them. He feels comfortable doing the surgery (he used to

teach too), but can not proceed until the braces are on. He feels

that my OD is the best in town, and said that if they did not feel

comfortable doing it, he would not want anyone else in the area to do

the braces. He feels that they saw the risk and we should head their

warning. Hopefully, I will have an appt time for UNC by tomorrow. I

just hope I don't have to wait months to get in.

Rene

> > > > I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking

> that

> > I

> > > > would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently,

> my

> > > > problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC.

> Earlier

> > > there

> > > > were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able

> to

> > > tell

> > > > you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for

> four

> > > > months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see

my

> > oral

> > > > surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the

ortho.

> I

> > > > didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I

cried

> > all

> > > the

> > > > way home. Just needed to vent.

> > > >

> > > > Rene`

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Thanks Fran,

Everyone on this site has been great. I have a very supportive

husband, but I don't think he truely understands. I know he wants

the best for me and wants to know every step, but no one really knows

unless they are there. I have family members I have to remind that

it is not my teeth. I did talk with my father yesterday while I was

upset and he said to me that we would get this taken care of no

matter what and he was really supportive. I think it finally hit him

that this is not just about teeth.

I know things are going to go quicker now. Good luck finding the pot

roast:) Can't wait to join you in the braces club.

~Rene`

> > I am so disappointed. I went for my consult today thinking that

I

> > would be scheduling the braces, but I was wrong. Apparently, my

> > problems are too significant and I am being sent to UNC. Earlier

> there

> > were some questions about the program at UNC, so I'll be able to

> tell

> > you first hand. I hate this. I've been working on this for four

> > months and feel like I've gotten nowhere. I went by to see my

> oral

> > surgeon and he says that he will have to conceed to the ortho. I

> > didn't realize that my problems were that hard to fix. I cried

> all the

> > way home. Just needed to vent.

> >

> > Rene`

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