Re: Broken bones in upper jaw and lip

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry to hear you've had no luck with solving your particular

problem. Could you give us some idea where you live so that someone

could perhaps recommend their own surgeon? Most of us have had good

results.

I'm also wondering how you came to have this problem? It sounds like

you had an accident.

> Is there a real doctor out there that can help me get all these

> pieces of broken bone out of my upper jaw and lip. I have seen way

> too many doctors, etc. They all give me the run around and right

now

> I am in alot of pain and can't do a darn thing about it.

>

> I had a CT scan a few months ago and they did see a 4mm piece of

> bone and I took the report into my last oral surgeon that I saw

and

> the doctor went and did surgery and opened up my jaw and looked

> around but the problem is that he only looked on the one side. I

> told him it moves around and he just didn't seem to want to listen

> to me.

>

> What is going on here, why don't any doctors want to help me. I am

> about to take a gun and finish this thing off. I have been putting

> up with pain on this problem sense 1999 and it is getting worse

all

> the time. The pieces of broken bone are about to break through but

> taking their dear time on getting here.

>

> Does anyone know of a type of doctor that I should see for this or

> is an oral surgeon the right one to see? But then the world is

> filled with lots of quacks and I guess I am one of those lucky

ones

> who finds all the good quacks.

>

> Anyway, thank you for your help.

[Guest guest]

Hi

In reply to your note, I am living in Medford, Wisconsin. And, no I

didn't have an accident. I had my upper teeth taken out in 1998 and

ever sense then I have had nothing but problems. I got my denture

and that bothered me so bad I had to stop useing it. So, I went to

doctor after doctor to get help with the problem and no one wanted

to see anything until just lately when they saw a 4mm piece of bone.

But when I was in for surgery a week ago they some how forgot to

check for this piece of bone and found a piece of root and a very

small piece of bone which measured maybe a 1/16 of an inch. When I

went in for my follow-up appointment on Tuesday, the doctor more or

less told me there was nothing else he could do and would recommend

me to another oral surgeon. That bothered me because why see another

one when the one you are seeing should be able to tell you the same

as the other one. Just can't figure these darn doctors out now days.

Anyway, thanks for your reply...........Jean

> > Is there a real doctor out there that can help me get all these

> > pieces of broken bone out of my upper jaw and lip. I have seen

way

> > too many doctors, etc. They all give me the run around and right

> now

> > I am in alot of pain and can't do a darn thing about it.

> >

> > I had a CT scan a few months ago and they did see a 4mm piece of

> > bone and I took the report into my last oral surgeon that I saw

> and

> > the doctor went and did surgery and opened up my jaw and looked

> > around but the problem is that he only looked on the one side. I

> > told him it moves around and he just didn't seem to want to

listen

> > to me.

> >

> > What is going on here, why don't any doctors want to help me. I

am

> > about to take a gun and finish this thing off. I have been

putting

> > up with pain on this problem sense 1999 and it is getting worse

> all

> > the time. The pieces of broken bone are about to break through

but

> > taking their dear time on getting here.

> >

> > Does anyone know of a type of doctor that I should see for this

or

> > is an oral surgeon the right one to see? But then the world is

> > filled with lots of quacks and I guess I am one of those lucky

> ones

> > who finds all the good quacks.

> >

> > Anyway, thank you for your help.

[Guest guest]

I'm nowhere near Wisconsin, but I think if I were you, I would at

least check out the nearest dental school. (I also would not have a

problem having dental students look at my mouth, or work on me, as

long as they were supervised. If you do, that's a legitimate issue,

of course, and find another way.)

I would tell them, big time, that I'd been through doc after doc,

and the unhappy results. Not so much as to make them scared that

you're a neurotic complainer, but enough to let them know you've

been around the block and are serious about needing expert help.

If that path does not suit you, for whatever reason, I'd start

asking friends and family about oral surgeons they've had experience

with. Almost everybody has a teen or someone else in the family

who's needed extraction of wizzies or some other procedure. Talk a

lot. You need a fine oral surgeon, and an expert at dentures. I'm

not telling you that dentures will ever be comfortable; the

experience of those I know and love is that they're always second-

best.

You might also investigate the possibility of at least some

implants. They're pricey as the dickens, but it's a lot easier to

stabilize things if you have at least some anchors in there.

I do think that's unbelievable -- not that I don't believe you --

that the doctor " forgot " to look for what he'd told you was there.

Perhaps a letter from a lawyer might prompt him to remember,

especially if you can document the diagnosis, and offer you a second

effort. Although I'm not sure I'd want such a doctor working on me

again. Have you seen the second guy he recommended? Might be worth a

visit, but I'd make it a point to say, if it's true, that the doctor

told you he " forgot " to look for this piece of bone.

And everything in the mouth feels enormous, I know. But remember

that 4 mm is less than a quarter of an inch. I have a little " horn "

on the labial side of my lower jaw. My surgeon says it is a bone

fragment working its way toward the surface, since I had surgery in

2002. It has not moved perceptibly since then.

Best,

C.

> Hi

> In reply to your note, I am living in Medford, Wisconsin. And, no

I

> didn't have an accident. I had my upper teeth taken out in 1998

and

> ever sense then I have had nothing but problems. I got my denture

> and that bothered me so bad I had to stop useing it. So, I went to

> doctor after doctor to get help with the problem and no one wanted

> to see anything until just lately when they saw a 4mm piece of

bone.

> But when I was in for surgery a week ago they some how forgot to

> check for this piece of bone and found a piece of root and a very

> small piece of bone which measured maybe a 1/16 of an inch. When I

> went in for my follow-up appointment on Tuesday, the doctor more

or

> less told me there was nothing else he could do and would

recommend

> me to another oral surgeon. That bothered me because why see

another

> one when the one you are seeing should be able to tell you the

same

> as the other one. Just can't figure these darn doctors out now

days.

>

> Anyway, thanks for your reply...........Jean

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jean,

That's too bad, that your surgery didn't solve the problem. I would

take your doctor's advice, though, and seek out another surgeon.

Would your surgeon give you a referral to another?

Doctors are only human, they can't solve everything, and they

sometimes do make mistakes. I've never met a perfect doctor,

although I think I've had some pretty good ones (and knew when I had

a not-so-good one, although I didn't think I had other options at

the time).

It's unfortunate that you didn't get it solved this time around, but

I hope you'll try to stay positive and give it another go. What do

you have to lose at this point?

> > > Is there a real doctor out there that can help me get all

these

> > > pieces of broken bone out of my upper jaw and lip. I have seen

> way

> > > too many doctors, etc. They all give me the run around and

right

> > now

> > > I am in alot of pain and can't do a darn thing about it.

> > >

> > > I had a CT scan a few months ago and they did see a 4mm piece

of

> > > bone and I took the report into my last oral surgeon that I

saw

> > and

> > > the doctor went and did surgery and opened up my jaw and

looked

> > > around but the problem is that he only looked on the one side.

I

> > > told him it moves around and he just didn't seem to want to

> listen

> > > to me.

> > >

> > > What is going on here, why don't any doctors want to help me.

I

> am

> > > about to take a gun and finish this thing off. I have been

> putting

> > > up with pain on this problem sense 1999 and it is getting

worse

> > all

> > > the time. The pieces of broken bone are about to break through

> but

> > > taking their dear time on getting here.

> > >

> > > Does anyone know of a type of doctor that I should see for

this

> or

> > > is an oral surgeon the right one to see? But then the world is

> > > filled with lots of quacks and I guess I am one of those lucky

> > ones

> > > who finds all the good quacks.

> > >

> > > Anyway, thank you for your help.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jean,

I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. In the Milwaukee area, there's a

dental school at Marquette University. Another place I can think of is

Medical College of Wisconsin which has Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery

department.

I know Milwaukee is a long way from Medford but you may want to look

into these two places if you can't find anybody in your area.

I'm still pre-op so I can't tell you much about my surgeon except he's

very nice and always willing to answer my questions and concerns. He

has offices in Cudahy and Mequon.

Kwan