Re: feeling down

[Guest guest]

There are muffin recipies that do not call for the dry curd... and that is what got me past my bread cravings.. also make the peanut butter brownie.. That helped me as well.. It was at least something of that texture.... The overwhelming crave for bread passed once started cooking a true meal instead of just trying to do a hamburger pattie or grilled chicken here and there.. Hang in there.. this too shall pass... :-)

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 12:18:39 PMSubject: feeling down

hi ive been on the diet now for 3 wks n i know its just early into the diet but im finding it really hard. the most thing that gets 2 me is not having bread! i know there is bread recipe's but i cant have that either as i live in the uk and they dont have dry curd cottage cheese and i know thats in the bread recipe's. and i feel when i have nuts i get alot of smelly wind i guess im just feeling sorry 4 myself any comments wud be helpful!

[Guest guest]

Hey Tammy- keep your chin up! You are doing great. I think the first few months

are so tough- not only is your body enduring a lot of physical change, but there

is a big mental portion of the diet as well. It is overwhelming learning the

ins-and-outs of the diet, and you are dealing with having to cook and prepare

all of your food and figure out how to pack it for each day. Then on top of that

you have to break this psychological addiction to carbs- that voice in our head

that makes us *think* we need some rice with that meat, or a roll with that

salad.

Does that about sum it up? Please hang in there- we have all been there! And I

promise it gets easier. As you already stated, when you get more advanced you'll

be able to have more " bread " like textures.

For me, in the early stages, I made a lot of chicken bread- and you can toast

that so it's crispy and then dip it in BBQ sauce, for example.

I also made little pizzas on souffle bread- obviously not the same as pizza, but

the melted cheese and flavor of the sauce was very satisfying. I will paste

those recipes for you below

-Joanna

SCD 9/2009, Crohn's 1992, 20mg Prednisone

CHICKEN BREAD

2 cups chicken (food process with water to form a paste)

1/3 cup cooked squash

1/4 oil

1 tsp baking soda

1 tsp or less of salt...it was a bit salty with the full tsp

5-6 eggs

Bake in loaf pan at 325 for one hour or until golden.

SOUFFLE BREAD

9 egg whites

pinch salt

6 egg yolks

2/3 cup Dried Curd Cottage Cheese or SCD yogurt cream cheese

2 Tbsp water

Preheat oven to 300 degrees

Beat egg whites with salt until stiff

In food processor mix remaining ingredients until well blended.

Fold into stiff egg whites

Line a large cookie sheet with parchment paper

Spread Batter evenely over parchment paper and Bake for 30 minutes

Remove from oven and carefully flip bread over and bake another 10 minutes.

Let cool and cut into squares.

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 12:18:39 PM

> Subject: feeling down

i guess im just feeling

> sorry 4 myself any comments wud be helpful!

>

[Guest guest]

A substitute for dccc is SCD yogurt that has been chilled for at least 6 hours

after fermentation, and then strained in a cheesecloth lined seive, to drain out

the liquid whey. If you let it drain for a couple of hours, say about 4-6 hours,

you get a 'yogurt cheese' that can be used in the recipes that ask for dccc.

Peanut butter brownies are known to be hard on the digestion. I would not

recommend it at the beginning of the diet. Even when you eventually try it down

the line, it should be limited quantities in the day.

You could maybe try using a combination of baked, mashed winter squash, along

with the yogurt cheese to add bulk and flavor to recipes.

There are list members who have made carrot chips, cheese crackers for that

missing texture from the breads we have been used to. Do be aware that in the

beginning it is recommended to eat veggies very well cooked, so the carrot chips

may not be a very good idea, quite yet, but I am posting a few links for you

from the pecanbread recipes web site.

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/carrotchips.html

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/squashfrenchfries.html

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/avocadomeatloaf.html

Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)

[Guest guest]

I ate a lot of souffle bread too! Made into pizza, grilled cheese sandwiches, toasted w/pumpkin butter, toasted w/some butter and garlic, put some chicken on top of it, top w/cheese and broil, etc, etc. \

Marla

From: Joanna

Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:04 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: feeling down

Hey Tammy- keep your chin up! You are doing great. I think the first few months are so tough- not only is your body enduring a lot of physical change, but there is a big mental portion of the diet as well. It is overwhelming learning the ins-and-outs of the diet, and you are dealing with having to cook and prepare all of your food and figure out how to pack it for each day. Then on top of that you have to break this psychological addiction to carbs- that voice in our head that makes us *think* we need some rice with that meat, or a roll with that salad.Does that about sum it up? Please hang in there- we have all been there! And I promise it gets easier. As you already stated, when you get more advanced you'll be able to have more "bread" like textures.For me, in the early stages, I made a lot of chicken bread- and you can toast that so it's crispy and then dip it in BBQ sauce, for example.I also made little pizzas on souffle bread- obviously not the same as pizza, but the melted cheese and flavor of the sauce was very satisfying. I will paste those recipes for you below -JoannaSCD 9/2009, Crohn's 1992, 20mg PrednisoneCHICKEN BREAD2 cups chicken (food process with water to form a paste)1/3 cup cooked squash1/4 oil1 tsp baking soda1 tsp or less of salt...it was a bit salty with the full tsp5-6 eggsBake in loaf pan at 325 for one hour or until golden.SOUFFLE BREAD9 egg whites pinch salt 6 egg yolks 2/3 cup Dried Curd Cottage Cheese or SCD yogurt cream cheese 2 Tbsp waterPreheat oven to 300 degrees Beat egg whites with salt until stiff In food processor mix remaining ingredients until well blended. Fold into stiff egg whites Line a large cookie sheet with parchment paper Spread Batter evenely over parchment paper and Bake for 30 minutes Remove from oven and carefully flip bread over and bake another 10 minutes. Let cool and cut into squares. > > To: BTVC-SCD > Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 12:18:39 PM> Subject: feeling downi guess im just feeling > sorry 4 myself any comments wud be helpful!>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tammy,

The carb cravings will eventually tone down. It is hard at

first, or rather a big adjustment. You are at 3 weeks so hang in there. Have

you made the bone broth (I like chicken) soup? I like to cook in the broth and

then blenderize a peeled, de-seeded zucchini (or other summer squash) in about

2 cups broth. That is more filling and satisfying than liquid broth all by

itself (which I also love).

You can substitute dripped SCD yogurt for DCCC. I would wait

until more healing has taken place before eating nuts.

Do you have a diagnosis? Oh, and Welcome!

Carol

CD23 yrs SCD 6 yrs

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Tammy

hi ive been on the diet now for 3 wks n i know

its just early into the diet but im finding it really hard. the most thing that

gets 2 me is not having bread! i know there is bread recipe's but i cant have

that either as i live in the uk and they dont have dry curd cottage cheese and

i know thats in the bread recipe's. and i feel when i have nuts i get alot of

smelly wind i guess im just feeling sorry 4 myself any comments wud be

helpful!

[Guest guest]

thanx tracey i was making the muffins and brownies but i find the nuts gives me

bad wind lol

>

> There are muffin recipies that do not call for the dry curd... and that is

what

> got me past my bread cravings.. also make the peanut butter brownie.. That

> helped me as well.. It was at least something of that texture.... The

> overwhelming crave for bread passed once started cooking a true meal instead

of

> just trying to do a hamburger pattie or grilled chicken here and there.. Hang

in

> there.. this too shall pass... :-)

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: BTVC-SCD

> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 12:18:39 PM

> Subject: feeling down

>

>  

> hi ive been on the diet now for 3 wks n i know its just early into the diet

but

> im finding it really hard. the most thing that gets 2 me is not having bread!

i

> know there is bread recipe's but i cant have that either as i live in the uk

and

> they dont have dry curd cottage cheese and i know thats in the bread recipe's.

> and i feel when i have nuts i get alot of smelly wind i guess im just

feeling

> sorry 4 myself any comments wud be helpful!

>

[Guest guest]

I concur--souffle bread was my best friend at the beginning of the diet. I

started the diet on January 1st and by my birthday, February 21st, I was

certainly missing bread. My mother surprised me by finding the souffle bread

recipe, which fit with my very limited diet at that point. I was so touched at

the surprise of a little piece of souffle bread on my plate with candles stuck

in it! It's all relative, and this " bread " made my world a better place.

>

> A substitute for dccc is SCD yogurt that has been chilled for at least 6 hours

after fermentation, and then strained in a cheesecloth lined seive, to drain out

the liquid whey. If you let it drain for a couple of hours, say about 4-6 hours,

you get a 'yogurt cheese' that can be used in the recipes that ask for dccc.

> Peanut butter brownies are known to be hard on the digestion. I would not

recommend it at the beginning of the diet. Even when you eventually try it down

the line, it should be limited quantities in the day.

> You could maybe try using a combination of baked, mashed winter squash, along

with the yogurt cheese to add bulk and flavor to recipes.

> There are list members who have made carrot chips, cheese crackers for that

missing texture from the breads we have been used to. Do be aware that in the

beginning it is recommended to eat veggies very well cooked, so the carrot chips

may not be a very good idea, quite yet, but I am posting a few links for you

from the pecanbread recipes web site.

>

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/carrotchips.html

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/squashfrenchfries.html

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/avocadomeatloaf.html

>

> Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)

>

[Guest guest]

Does anyone have the soufflé bread recipe or a link to it? Thanks! ~ Janine

Re: feeling down

I concur--souffle bread was my best friend at the beginning of the diet. I

started the diet on January 1st and by my birthday, February 21st, I was

certainly missing bread. My mother surprised me by finding the souffle bread

recipe, which fit with my very limited diet at that point. I was so touched

at the surprise of a little piece of souffle bread on my plate with candles

stuck in it! It's all relative, and this " bread " made my world a better

place.

>

> A substitute for dccc is SCD yogurt that has been chilled for at least 6

hours after fermentation, and then strained in a cheesecloth lined seive, to

drain out the liquid whey. If you let it drain for a couple of hours, say

about 4-6 hours, you get a 'yogurt cheese' that can be used in the recipes

that ask for dccc.

> Peanut butter brownies are known to be hard on the digestion. I would not

recommend it at the beginning of the diet. Even when you eventually try it

down the line, it should be limited quantities in the day.

> You could maybe try using a combination of baked, mashed winter squash,

along with the yogurt cheese to add bulk and flavor to recipes.

> There are list members who have made carrot chips, cheese crackers for

that missing texture from the breads we have been used to. Do be aware that

in the beginning it is recommended to eat veggies very well cooked, so the

carrot chips may not be a very good idea, quite yet, but I am posting a few

links for you from the pecanbread recipes web site.

>

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/carrotchips.html

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/squashfrenchfries.html

> http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/avocadomeatloaf.html

>

> Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)

>

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[Guest guest]

has anyone ever tried the avocado meatloaf without the egg? Should it just be omited or could you replace it w/something like the gelatin?

A substitute for dccc is SCD yogurt that has been chilled for at least 6 hours after fermentation, and then strained in a cheesecloth lined seive, to drain out the liquid whey. If you let it drain for a couple of hours, say about 4-6 hours, you get a 'yogurt cheese' that can be used in the recipes that ask for dccc.

Peanut butter brownies are known to be hard on the digestion. I would not recommend it at the beginning of the diet. Even when you eventually try it down the line, it should be limited quantities in the day.

You could maybe try using a combination of baked, mashed winter squash, along with the yogurt cheese to add bulk and flavor to recipes.

There are list members who have made carrot chips, cheese crackers for that missing texture from the breads we have been used to. Do be aware that in the beginning it is recommended to eat veggies very well cooked, so the carrot chips may not be a very good idea, quite yet, but I am posting a few links for you from the pecanbread recipes web site.

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/carrotchips.html

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/squashfrenchfries.html

http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/avocadomeatloaf.html

Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)

[Guest guest]

I am sure you could use gelatin instead of the egg, maybe half a packet, so it

just holds the loaf together, else a full packet would maybe give a texture that

allows proper slicing.

Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)

[Guest guest]

hi carol thanx yes i got diagnosed with crohn's disease in feb this year. i dont

understand what dccc is sorry. ur info is very useful and i will take it on

board. i havnt made bone broth havnt heard of that either im all new to this

hope i get better at it!

>

> Hi Tammy,

>

> The carb cravings will eventually tone down. It is hard at first, or rather

> a big adjustment. You are at 3 weeks so hang in there. Have you made the

> bone broth (I like chicken) soup? I like to cook in the broth and then

> blenderize a peeled, de-seeded zucchini (or other summer squash) in about 2

> cups broth. That is more filling and satisfying than liquid broth all by

> itself (which I also love).

>

> You can substitute dripped SCD yogurt for DCCC. I would wait until more

> healing has taken place before eating nuts.

>

> Do you have a diagnosis? Oh, and Welcome!

>

> Carol

>

> CD23 yrs SCD 6 yrs

>

> From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf

> Of Tammy

>

> hi ive been on the diet now for 3 wks n i know its just early into the diet

> but im finding it really hard. the most thing that gets 2 me is not having

> bread! i know there is bread recipe's but i cant have that either as i live

> in the uk and they dont have dry curd cottage cheese and i know thats in the

> bread recipe's. and i feel when i have nuts i get alot of smelly wind i

> guess im just feeling sorry 4 myself any comments wud be helpful!

>

[Guest guest]

haha sorry carol i have just realised what dccc means!!

> >

> > Hi Tammy,

> >

> > The carb cravings will eventually tone down. It is hard at first, or rather

> > a big adjustment. You are at 3 weeks so hang in there. Have you made the

> > bone broth (I like chicken) soup? I like to cook in the broth and then

> > blenderize a peeled, de-seeded zucchini (or other summer squash) in about 2

> > cups broth. That is more filling and satisfying than liquid broth all by

> > itself (which I also love).

> >

> > You can substitute dripped SCD yogurt for DCCC. I would wait until more

> > healing has taken place before eating nuts.

> >

> > Do you have a diagnosis? Oh, and Welcome!

> >

> > Carol

> >

> > CD23 yrs SCD 6 yrs

> >

> > From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf

> > Of Tammy

> >

> > hi ive been on the diet now for 3 wks n i know its just early into the diet

> > but im finding it really hard. the most thing that gets 2 me is not having

> > bread! i know there is bread recipe's but i cant have that either as i live

> > in the uk and they dont have dry curd cottage cheese and i know thats in the

> > bread recipe's. and i feel when i have nuts i get alot of smelly wind i

> > guess im just feeling sorry 4 myself any comments wud be helpful!

> >

>

[Guest guest]

thanx guys its all making me feel better to know im not alone!!

> >

> > A substitute for dccc is SCD yogurt that has been chilled for at least 6

> hours after fermentation, and then strained in a cheesecloth lined seive, to

> drain out the liquid whey. If you let it drain for a couple of hours, say

> about 4-6 hours, you get a 'yogurt cheese' that can be used in the recipes

> that ask for dccc.

> > Peanut butter brownies are known to be hard on the digestion. I would not

> recommend it at the beginning of the diet. Even when you eventually try it

> down the line, it should be limited quantities in the day.

> > You could maybe try using a combination of baked, mashed winter squash,

> along with the yogurt cheese to add bulk and flavor to recipes.

> > There are list members who have made carrot chips, cheese crackers for

> that missing texture from the breads we have been used to. Do be aware that

> in the beginning it is recommended to eat veggies very well cooked, so the

> carrot chips may not be a very good idea, quite yet, but I am posting a few

> links for you from the pecanbread recipes web site.

> >

> > http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/carrotchips.html

> > http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/squashfrenchfries.html

> > http://www.pecanbread.com/recipes/avocadomeatloaf.html

> >

> > Suneeti (Crohns, SCD 2000)

> >

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

I just posted it in my original response to Tammy in this thread.

-Joanna

>

> Does anyone have the soufflé bread recipe or a link to it? Thanks! ~ Janine

>

[Guest guest]

This link tells all about bone broth soup. It was

Siebecker’s (PhD?) thesis I believe.

http://www.townsendletter.com/FebMarch2005/broth0205.htm

Scroll about 2/3 of the way down for Appendix A on how to make

it. I personally like to roast whatever chicken parts I’m using for 1

hour at 350 * F. Let cool, remove meat from bones and set aside meat in fridge

to eat separately or to add back into soup. The meat can also be blenderized

back into the soup for easier digestion. The bones or carcass go into the stew

pot (or Crockpot), along with vinegar to leach the minerals from the bones, and

to simmer for however long. I usually simmer on the stovetop for 8-10 hours.

And then I strain everything out and just use the broth.

If you have a copy of BTVC (Breaking The Vicious Cycle) there is

a recipe for Chicken Soup in there as well. I tried making soup that way but

found the meat too dry and tough after cooking the daylights out of it.

Sorry you have Crohn’s. Thank goodness you found the SCD!

Carol

CD 23 yrs SCD 6 yrs

From:

BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Tammy

hi carol thanx yes i got diagnosed with crohn's disease in

feb this year. i dont understand what dccc is sorry. ur info is very useful and

i will take it on board. i havnt made bone broth havnt heard of that either im

all new to this hope i get better at it!

[Guest guest]

At 12:18 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote:

hi ive been on the diet now for

3 wks n i know its just early into the diet but im finding it really

hard. the most thing that gets 2 me is not having bread! i know there is

bread recipe's but i cant have that either as i live in the uk and they

dont have dry curd cottage cheese and i know thats in the bread recipe's.

and i feel when i have nuts i get alot of smelly wind i guess im just

feeling sorry 4 myself any comments wud be helpful!

You can make souffle bread, which does not need the dry curd cottage

cheese.

There are also other bread recipes which do not need the dry curd cottage

cheese.

You can also make SCD yogurt, and drip, or drain it really well and use

that instead dry curd cottage cheese -- DCCC was not available here in

New Orleans for the first four years I was on SCD, so that's what I

did.

Craving bread in the early days is a tough thing -- but you can do

it!

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

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