Re: Faint and Shaky after eating Protein???

[Guest guest]

Sounds like an allergic reaction of some kind. I would feel like that when I

eat certain foods as well, especially pork and soy.

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>

> Hey all,

>

> So the hubby is feeling faint, shaky, can't focus, etc. (think low blood sugar

symptoms), but he says it's only after he has some form of protein (chicken,

cheese, etc.). Has anyone heard of this or experienced something similar? It

sounds like hypoglycemia, except he's not eating sugar or anything, and

typically hypoglycemics are told to eat protein to NOT feel those things.

Anyone have any clue? Is this some die off thing? Or what?

>

> Not sure if this has anything to do with anything or not, but one time we read

this book (Eat right for your blood type) and it said that his blood type does

better with a more vegetarian diet. Don't know much about that stuff, so not

sure if there's any validity or not, but just throwing that out there...

>

> Thanks!

> Carissa

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Carissa,

I know you guys recently started the diet, but how many days exactly? For the

first 4-5 days I was super faint, shaky, and told my skin looked green, and had

no energy from all the die off.

I am sure others can comment about possible die off symptoms happening later

after the intro...

Hope he starts doing better!

-

SCD 3.5 months

>

> Hey all,

>

> So the hubby is feeling faint, shaky, can't focus, etc. (think low blood sugar

symptoms), but he says it's only after he has some form of protein (chicken,

cheese, etc.). Has anyone heard of this or experienced something similar? It

sounds like hypoglycemia, except he's not eating sugar or anything, and

typically hypoglycemics are told to eat protein to NOT feel those things.

Anyone have any clue? Is this some die off thing? Or what?

>

> Not sure if this has anything to do with anything or not, but one time we read

this book (Eat right for your blood type) and it said that his blood type does

better with a more vegetarian diet. Don't know much about that stuff, so not

sure if there's any validity or not, but just throwing that out there...

>

> Thanks!

> Carissa

>

[Guest guest]

Cariss,

I'm having this same reaction too. To protein and fats. Found out a few days ago

that it's a gallstone that is the problem for me. I've had to cut out all fats

and protein for the past 4 days and was feeling weak until yesterday; we got a

Champion juicer and started juicing to get all my nutrients in (well, not

getting essential fatty acids nor amino acids).

I'm starting a natural gallbladder cleanse because of all this. I'm trying to

avoid the surgery. They would like me to have my gallbladder removed, but I'm of

the opinion that the Lord gave us body parts for a reason and I'm going to try

to keep all mine unless it's absolutely necessary to have something removed.

Maybe look into this being either gallstone related, lack of protease (enzyme

from the pancreas), or low stomach acid. I think mine is all three. So I am

taking enzymes (well, was until I went all juice and blended fruits / vegs). And

when I was eating meat prior to getting off altogether for a bit, I added

Betaine HCL. But because mine is so bad (the shaking from the protein / fats), I

don't know if the Betaine was working for me yet.

Do you have a doctor that can check those things out? And maybe try a no protein

and no fat diet for 3 days or so then slowly add either fats or proteins one

day.

Oh, and I've always been hypoglycemic, but now I think it's not actually too

much about hypoglycemia as it is the protein / fats problem. I'm eating fruits

and juices like crazy and not having the hypoglycemic effects so much... I think

all those yrs. I said I was hypoglycemic, I was actually having a difficult time

digesting fats / proteins!

Tamara

[Guest guest]

Tamara

Stay alert to your liver enzyme levels until you know your gallstone (or

gallstones) have exited your common bile duct. You don't want to rupture your

gallbladder or cause damage to bile ducts or liver by letting things go too

long.... Checking the levels just requires a blood test. Cleanses don't always

work, depending on the size or number of gallstones.

Hopefully you'll experience improvement, many people do, but sometimes surgery

is necessary. Our bodies do deteriorate as we get older [sigh].

I've had to learn a lot about the liver and pancreas and the problems that can

occur in this area, since I was diagnosed with Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction.

Among other upper GI malfunctions, I've had to deal with a blocked common bile

duct and a dysfunctional gallbladder (failed a HIDA with CCK). I keep an eye on

my liver and pancreatic functions because of my Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction,

so I am tested at least twice a year. These functions are the first thing my

gastroenterologist orders when I'm in a severe symptom flare, in case I develop

another blocked common bile duct, which usually occurs in patients with this

dysfunction.

My problems are with fats and carbs, not proteins, (and also with fiber and

spices [sigh]) so I can eat a lot of lean meat, eggs and fish and low to medium

carb veggies -- but can't eat much fruit and can't eat any of the high-carb

veggies or dried beans.

Sounds like you're figuring out what your body will tolerate. That's good. I

just also recommend some prudence when it comes to gallstones. Our common bile

ducts are tiny, and sometimes the stones are large and don't budge.

Kim M.

SCD 6+ years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 7 years

neurological and spinal deterioration 4 years

>

> Cariss,

>

> I'm having this same reaction too. To protein and fats. Found out a few days

ago that it's a gallstone that is the problem for me. I've had to cut out all

fats and protein for the past 4 days and was feeling weak until yesterday; we

got a Champion juicer and started juicing to get all my nutrients in (well, not

getting essential fatty acids nor amino acids).

>

> I'm starting a natural gallbladder cleanse because of all this. I'm trying to

avoid the surgery. They would like me to have my gallbladder removed, but I'm of

the opinion that the Lord gave us body parts for a reason and I'm going to try

to keep all mine unless it's absolutely necessary to have something removed.

>

> Maybe look into this being either gallstone related, lack of protease (enzyme

from the pancreas), or low stomach acid. I think mine is all three. So I am

taking enzymes (well, was until I went all juice and blended fruits / vegs). And

when I was eating meat prior to getting off altogether for a bit, I added

Betaine HCL. But because mine is so bad (the shaking from the protein / fats), I

don't know if the Betaine was working for me yet.

>

> Do you have a doctor that can check those things out? And maybe try a no

protein and no fat diet for 3 days or so then slowly add either fats or proteins

one day.

>

> Oh, and I've always been hypoglycemic, but now I think it's not actually too

much about hypoglycemia as it is the protein / fats problem. I'm eating fruits

and juices like crazy and not having the hypoglycemic effects so much... I think

all those yrs. I said I was hypoglycemic, I was actually having a difficult time

digesting fats / proteins!

>

> Tamara

>

[Guest guest]

Kim,

Your posts always scare me!

I am nervous about doing this the natural way, but I want to avoid surgery if

possible. The CT scan results say that the gallstone is 1 cm. and it's in the

gallbladder.

Why then am I having so much trouble with these mini-convulsion things going on

when I eat fats (and proteins) and if I have too much carbs / fiber? The only

thing I can definitly have is juiced fruits / vegs. I am eating a blended,

cooked veg / fruit " soup " but I can't have too much.

My pancreas, spleen, kidneys, etc. all came out " normal " on the scan. How can

they tell if it's something more than this gallstone? Like how did they figure

out your Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction?

What does " failed a HIDA with CCK " mean?

How do I know if it may be a common bile duct problem? The first sign of all

this was 5 months ago... very, very, (very!!!) sick when I ate protein and fats.

Then my skin turned yellow a couple months ago, then 2 weeks ago, was so

nauseous and in so much pain (upper left side, never right side) along with this

tingling and itching all over.

Argh! All blood tests come back normal. CT scan only showed the 1 cm. gallstone,

and liver enzyme numbers was normal. Why can't I eat then?

Tamara

[Guest guest]

Hey Tamara,

Thanks for all of that info!!! Very insightful! =) He actually mentioned

today that he is thinking of seeing a doctor (which is a big deal for him,

because we are very " all natural " people, and don't trust doctors very much

since they tend to be the opposite!). What exactly should he tell them? And

what tests do you think he should have done?

I know you explained it some, but what exactly are you doing again to get all of

your nutrients? Could you give me an example of a day's meal plan perhaps so I

can get an idea? (including any supplements!)

He keeps telling me that he feels like he has hypoglycemia, but I had that in

the past, and told him " but hypoglycemics eat no sugar or starches, and lots of

protein! " So while the symptoms reflect that of hypoglycemia, I don't think

that's the issue (just like you mentioned about yourself, how you question now

whether or not that was truly the problem or if it was really the protein/fats

the entire time). Definitely something for us to look into with him! Thank

you!

God bless! =)

Carissa

>

> Cariss,

>

> I'm having this same reaction too. To protein and fats. Found out a few days

ago that it's a gallstone that is the problem for me. I've had to cut out all

fats and protein for the past 4 days and was feeling weak until yesterday; we

got a Champion juicer and started juicing to get all my nutrients in (well, not

getting essential fatty acids nor amino acids).

>

> I'm starting a natural gallbladder cleanse because of all this. I'm trying to

avoid the surgery. They would like me to have my gallbladder removed, but I'm of

the opinion that the Lord gave us body parts for a reason and I'm going to try

to keep all mine unless it's absolutely necessary to have something removed.

>

> Maybe look into this being either gallstone related, lack of protease (enzyme

from the pancreas), or low stomach acid. I think mine is all three. So I am

taking enzymes (well, was until I went all juice and blended fruits / vegs). And

when I was eating meat prior to getting off altogether for a bit, I added

Betaine HCL. But because mine is so bad (the shaking from the protein / fats), I

don't know if the Betaine was working for me yet.

>

> Do you have a doctor that can check those things out? And maybe try a no

protein and no fat diet for 3 days or so then slowly add either fats or proteins

one day.

>

> Oh, and I've always been hypoglycemic, but now I think it's not actually too

much about hypoglycemia as it is the protein / fats problem. I'm eating fruits

and juices like crazy and not having the hypoglycemic effects so much... I think

all those yrs. I said I was hypoglycemic, I was actually having a difficult time

digesting fats / proteins!

>

> Tamara

>

[Guest guest]

Oh Tamara, you poor thing!! I'm looking forward to Kim's response!!! You both

seem to know a lot about this stuff that I've never even heard of before!

" Learn something new every day... " =)

>

> Kim,

>

> Your posts always scare me!

>

> I am nervous about doing this the natural way, but I want to avoid surgery if

possible. The CT scan results say that the gallstone is 1 cm. and it's in the

gallbladder.

>

> Why then am I having so much trouble with these mini-convulsion things going

on when I eat fats (and proteins) and if I have too much carbs / fiber? The only

thing I can definitly have is juiced fruits / vegs. I am eating a blended,

cooked veg / fruit " soup " but I can't have too much.

>

> My pancreas, spleen, kidneys, etc. all came out " normal " on the scan. How can

they tell if it's something more than this gallstone? Like how did they figure

out your Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction?

>

> What does " failed a HIDA with CCK " mean?

>

> How do I know if it may be a common bile duct problem? The first sign of all

this was 5 months ago... very, very, (very!!!) sick when I ate protein and fats.

Then my skin turned yellow a couple months ago, then 2 weeks ago, was so

nauseous and in so much pain (upper left side, never right side) along with this

tingling and itching all over.

>

> Argh! All blood tests come back normal. CT scan only showed the 1 cm.

gallstone, and liver enzyme numbers was normal. Why can't I eat then?

>

> Tamara

>

[Guest guest]

We've been on the SCD for about 2 weeks now.

> >

> > Hey all,

> >

> > So the hubby is feeling faint, shaky, can't focus, etc. (think low blood

sugar symptoms), but he says it's only after he has some form of protein

(chicken, cheese, etc.). Has anyone heard of this or experienced something

similar? It sounds like hypoglycemia, except he's not eating sugar or anything,

and typically hypoglycemics are told to eat protein to NOT feel those things.

Anyone have any clue? Is this some die off thing? Or what?

> >

> > Not sure if this has anything to do with anything or not, but one time we

read this book (Eat right for your blood type) and it said that his blood type

does better with a more vegetarian diet. Don't know much about that stuff, so

not sure if there's any validity or not, but just throwing that out there...

> >

> > Thanks!

> > Carissa

> >

>