Re: suffering from deep depresson

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

As I replied to your post on oss2, one of the possible recommendations

I made was for you to see a therapist. If you are experiencing such a

deep depression, you need intervention NOW.

Please do yourself a favour and speak to your general physician about

this. He or she can evaluate and make a referral to a qualified

therapist if necessary.

You're making things far worse than they really are by focusing on

your outward appearance, and thinking this way about yourself.

I hope you'll reply back and let us know that you've done this.

With metta,

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

Would it be possible to send us some photos of before and after so

we can see the difference?

I also think you need to see someone and talk to them abut how you

feel, because its not healthy to be feeling this way. I can

sympathise with you as I had my jaw brough forward also ( sept 13)

and I still have a lot of swelling on my cheeks. Its hard because I

did the operation because of the jaw pain and did not really think

about the consequences to my new change. I did however go and spoke

to some one about it and I am taking some herbal antidepressant

which has really helped me in accepting the changes and give myself

time to heal. Some days are better than others, but at least now I

have more better days than bad ones. Its funny because I look in the

mirrow and find all these things wrong with me ( nose to fat, cheeks

too fat etc), but when I compare photos of before and after I know I

look 100% better now.

Good luck Tony, but please do something about it, do not let your

confidence slide any more. I am sure you look better than you think

and you just has been hard on your self.

>

> I am so down, I had my top jaw moved forward 10mm in Dec 04, the

> swelling came severe on one side so my surgeon removed the plates

on

> July the 14th of this year.

>

> I still have swelling around the cheek area, and i feel as if

> someone has filled the top of my gums with tissue.

>

> The fact is I really am not pleased with the outcome of my surgery

> at the moment and i dont think i ever will do. I feel as if they

> may have brought my jaw too far forward and given me these

enormous

> cheeks which make me look like a hamster with nuts in his mouth, I

> feel and look like a Freak!

>

> I thought after the operation and the healing process i would gain

> more self esteem and confidence but at the moment I have little of

> either.

>

> If anyone reads this post who is having surgery, dont be put off,

I

> just think I am one of those with an unsuccesful story, I am

> seriously thinking of reversing the surgery, at least before i did

> not feel like a freak.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

I agree with the others that you should first talk with someone

about your issues before you get deeper into a depression that you

can't get out of. I can tell by your posts that you're pretty

distraught right now - and it's understandable if you're not happy

with how you look. There's such a big build-up to this surgery and

to come out of it unhappy with how you look is probably not how you

wanted it to work out. I also have alot of upper jaw swelling and

am not very happy with how my face looks - I heard someone else on

this site describe it as looking like someone from whoville in the

grinch movie - that's how I feel too. I am hoping that for me it's

only the swelling and in time it will go down.....but that's the big

thing - is the time.....it can take a year for the swelling to go

away. I think since you had your plates removed in July, it's only

been four months. So, is there any possibility this is the swelling

that is making you unhappy, not the actual result of your surgery?

Someone else suggested to have you post some pictures - could you do

that so we can see your before and after pictures? It also may be

that the change in your appearance has been a shock to you, and

you're just not used to the way you look yet, rather than it looking

bad.

Try to post some pictures if you are able to get a hold of a digital

camera - talk to your surgeon about your concerns and maybe he can

recommend someone for you to talk to about your feelings - don't try

and work this out by yourself, please find someone in the medical

field to talk to - you will probably find that it will help alot in

your outlook if you do that.

Take care,

Pam

>

> I am so down, I had my top jaw moved forward 10mm in Dec 04, the

> swelling came severe on one side so my surgeon removed the plates

on

> July the 14th of this year.

>

> I still have swelling around the cheek area, and i feel as if

> someone has filled the top of my gums with tissue.

>

> The fact is I really am not pleased with the outcome of my surgery

> at the moment and i dont think i ever will do. I feel as if they

> may have brought my jaw too far forward and given me these

enormous

> cheeks which make me look like a hamster with nuts in his mouth, I

> feel and look like a Freak!

>

> I thought after the operation and the healing process i would gain

> more self esteem and confidence but at the moment I have little of

> either.

>

> If anyone reads this post who is having surgery, dont be put off,

I

> just think I am one of those with an unsuccesful story, I am

> seriously thinking of reversing the surgery, at least before i did

> not feel like a freak.

>

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Re: suffering from deep

depresson

Hi Tony,

I agree with the others that you should first talk with someone

about your issues before you get deeper into a depression that you

can't get out of. I can tell by your posts that you're pretty

distraught right now - and it's understandable if you're not happy

with how you look. There's such a big build-up to this surgery and

to come out of it unhappy with how you look is probably not how you

wanted it to work out. I also have alot of upper jaw swelling and

am not very happy with how my face looks - I heard someone else on

this site describe it as looking like someone from whoville in the

grinch movie - that's how I feel too. I am hoping that for me it's

only the swelling and in time it will go down.....but that's the big

thing - is the time.....it can take a year for the swelling to go

away. I think since you had your plates removed in July, it's only

been four months. So, is there any possibility this is the swelling

that is making you unhappy, not the actual result of your surgery?

Someone else suggested to have you post some pictures - could you do

that so we can see your before and after pictures? It also may be

that the change in your appearance has been a shock to you, and

you're just not used to the way you look yet, rather than it looking

bad.

Try to post some pictures if you are able to get a hold of a digital

camera - talk to your surgeon about your concerns and maybe he can

recommend someone for you to talk to about your feelings - don't try

and work this out by yourself, please find someone in the medical

field to talk to - you will probably find that it will help alot in

your outlook if you do that.

Take care,

Pam

>

> I am so down, I had my top jaw moved forward 10mm in Dec 04, the

> swelling came severe on one side so my surgeon removed the plates

on

> July the 14th of this year.

>

> I still have swelling around the cheek area, and i feel as if

> someone has filled the top of my gums with tissue.

>

> The fact is I really am not pleased with the outcome of my surgery

> at the moment and i dont think i ever will do. I feel as if they

> may have brought my jaw too far forward and given me these

enormous

> cheeks which make me look like a hamster with nuts in his mouth, I

> feel and look like a Freak!

>

> I thought after the operation and the healing process i would gain

> more self esteem and confidence but at the moment I have little of

> either.

>

> If anyone reads this post who is having surgery, dont be put off,

I

> just think I am one of those with an unsuccesful story, I am

> seriously thinking of reversing the surgery, at least before i did

> not feel like a freak.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony,

I am glad you have shared this here. I agree with others who

recommend that you speak with someone who is able to help you, but I

also hope you continue to talk with us. You are a part of this

group, and I know I am concerned about how you are feeling. I would

want to know there were others out there who understood and cared

how I was feeling. This is a major surgery that does impact how we

see ourself. Even extremely good changes can be disconcerting. And

I would definately be going in to my OMS and asking for their

opinion about what you are seeing. Is it swelling? Is there

something else that would make the balance more settled? And I

would share how you are feeling too. They can also recommend

someone to talk to about your feelings if you dont' have someone

else in mind. But do know you have people thinking about you. I

will watch for your posts.

Hugs,

Fran

>

> I am so down, I had my top jaw moved forward 10mm in Dec 04, the

> swelling came severe on one side so my surgeon removed the plates

on

> July the 14th of this year.

>

> I still have swelling around the cheek area, and i feel as if

> someone has filled the top of my gums with tissue.

>

> The fact is I really am not pleased with the outcome of my surgery

> at the moment and i dont think i ever will do. I feel as if they

> may have brought my jaw too far forward and given me these

enormous

> cheeks which make me look like a hamster with nuts in his mouth, I

> feel and look like a Freak!

>

> I thought after the operation and the healing process i would gain

> more self esteem and confidence but at the moment I have little of

> either.

>

> If anyone reads this post who is having surgery, dont be put off,

I

> just think I am one of those with an unsuccesful story, I am

> seriously thinking of reversing the surgery, at least before i did

> not feel like a freak.

>

[Guest guest]

i know how you feel tony. I recently got surgery on my upper jaw this

summer (july 21 2005). They advanced my jaw 11.5 mm, but with an

internal device. Basically they didn't use the conventional method.

They put a device in my mouth and told me to advance my jaw using a

screw driver to turn the screws on my rod. My rod was advanced 1mm

everyday for 2 weeks. It was hell cause one side eventualy swelled up.

Any way they took out the device and now my upper jaw cheecks looks

like what u called tissue over your gum. My doctor says it will take 8

months to heal completely, but i am a little worried, since most my

swelling went down except that one. I too have gone into depression

but i also know i got more months to go. Also i will be geting another

surgery to fix my underbite in november 8 2005. I will be getting

surgery the conventional way, but i know i will relive my experiences

as my first surgery. Tony i wanted to know what did ur doctor say

about the sweeling of ur cheeks. (cheeks of ur upper jaw and gums

underneath your nose) ?

> >

> > I am so down, I had my top jaw moved forward 10mm in Dec 04, the

> > swelling came severe on one side so my surgeon removed the plates

> on

> > July the 14th of this year.

> >

> > I still have swelling around the cheek area, and i feel as if

> > someone has filled the top of my gums with tissue.

> >

> > The fact is I really am not pleased with the outcome of my surgery

> > at the moment and i dont think i ever will do. I feel as if they

> > may have brought my jaw too far forward and given me these

> enormous

> > cheeks which make me look like a hamster with nuts in his mouth, I

> > feel and look like a Freak!

> >

> > I thought after the operation and the healing process i would gain

> > more self esteem and confidence but at the moment I have little of

> > either.

> >

> > If anyone reads this post who is having surgery, dont be put off,

> I

> > just think I am one of those with an unsuccesful story, I am

> > seriously thinking of reversing the surgery, at least before i did

> > not feel like a freak.

> >

>