Re: Work Discrimination? OT

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In a message dated 01/15/2004 10:19:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,

diana_11_6@... writes:

Should I speak with our personnel department? They are of course hiring a

man to fill the position. I believe they are discriminating against women,

but I

don't know if I should say anything as it isn't directly affecting me.

Give me your thoughts.

M

Only thing is, it would be your word against hers. Is the woman more highly

qualified for the position? If so, then you and she could work together to

correct this situation, or she could file the complaint on her own, and use you

as

a witness on her behalf.

Katt Morales

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Beginning Weight: 300 Current Weight: 150

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[Guest guest]

, the right thing to do is to report it, however, depending on

where you work, you may end up jeopardizing your job by doing the

right thing. Did anyone else overhear this conversation or is it

your word against hers? What is she denies saying this? It can

happen and then you have poisoned the relationship with someone who

is next in line to be Director. If someone overheard or if she has

made similar statements to others, your better off.

I once worked for a powerful director who also discriminated and made

blatant comments about people's religions, dress etc, yelled at

everyone in a very demeaning way, just an awful person. When I tried

to go to her supervisor and to HR with these complaints, they both

called her in in front of me to address these charges. Lets just say

payback is hell and until she retired, our relationship was never the

same, and nothing was done about the original complaint except others

learned to keep their mouth shut.

Cindy in Va

lap RNT 2/8/02

.. At issue, the manager directly under

> him, who is female, recently remarked to me something that I am

offended

> and very concerned by, as she is next in line when the Director

retires.

>

> We are hiring, two female applicants had applied and when she asked

me

> about them, (as I used to work with them and know them,) she

blatantly stated

> that she doesn't want any more women in this department because

they are

> difficult, moody and hard to work with. WHAT? Yes, I was astounded.

Not at

> the fact that she felt that way, but moreso at her disregard for my

feelings and

> of course because she was voicing a gender bias, which is illegal.

I don't

> know what to do about this. I have worked here collectively for

over 7 years

> and just started back here in September after leaving to get a job

with

> insurance to pay for wls.

>

> Should I speak with our personnel department? They are of course

hiring a

> man to fill the position. I believe they are discriminating against

women, but I

> don't know if I should say anything as it isn't directly affecting

me.

>

> Give me your thoughts.

> M

>

>

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Is it possible she was baiting you? Not for fun, but to stir up

trouble?

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Re: Work Discrimination? OT

> I have been dealing with something of late that is bothering me.

Obviously

> being almost 2 years out I don't have to deal with discrimination

based on

> weight anymore. (Actually, I never have at my current employer.)

However,

> something is eating at me, so to speak, about recent events where

I work.

>

> Long story short, I have been aware for quite some time that men

in our

> department of graphic designers are favored over women. That is

due in large

> part to the fact that our Director of Art/Production is old

school. He has always

> treated me with respect and never propositioned me personally.

However, a

> co-worker of mine has said that he has made outright sexual

advances

> toward her in the past (she has been here for years.) This is not

the issue,

> though that in and of itself is bad enough. At issue, the manager

directly under

> him, who is female, recently remarked to me something that I am

offended

> and very concerned by, as she is next in line when the Director

retires.

>

> We are hiring, two female applicants had applied and when she

asked me

> about them, (as I used to work with them and know them,) she

blatantly stated

> that she doesn't want any more women in this department because

they are

> difficult, moody and hard to work with. WHAT? Yes, I was

astounded. Not at

> the fact that she felt that way, but moreso at her disregard for

my feelings and

> of course because she was voicing a gender bias, which is illegal.

I don't

> know what to do about this. I have worked here collectively for

over 7 years

> and just started back here in September after leaving to get a job

with

> insurance to pay for wls.

>

> Should I speak with our personnel department? They are of course

hiring a

> man to fill the position. I believe they are discriminating

against women, but I

> don't know if I should say anything as it isn't directly affecting

me.

>

> Give me your thoughts.

> M

>

>

> > How many of you felt that you were discriminated against at

work, or

> > at job interviews because you were obese? And how many have

noticed

> > a difference now that you have lost the weight? Over at

> > obesityhelp.com, I saw an interesting article written by a woman

who

> > is a chef, who lost 170 pounds and says that her catering

business

> > improved when she lost the weight. Here is the link to the

article:

> >

> > http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/7650194.htm

> >

> >

> > I know I was discriminated against when looking for a job and

was

> > obese. I lost out on many opportunities I was well qualified

for and

> > then saw them hire normal weighted people for the jobs. In my

current

> > job, I was hired as a post-op. I do believe that obese people

have a

> > much harder time getting employed, and having to prove their

> > competence. Good article...

> >

> > Cindy in Va

> > lap RNY 2/8/02

>

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