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Pam,

Lets see if I can sum this up easy

Surgery

#1 July 30 2005 Lefort 1, chin aug

#2 Aug 10, 2005 due to surgeon messed my bite up worse..

started noticing about 1-2 months (Sep-Oct) later that my upper teeth did not

show, my mouth seems sunken it, and upper face lots larger..developed 4 fistulas

(pus pockets) on either side of gums, told doctor I taste infection and saw

yellow stuff coming out..said to watch them

#3 Jan 3 2005, plates were broken into, and screws were just sitting in bone

around March notice upper jaw moving placed on another round of antibiotic for

infection in gums..around April had cadiver bone coming out of fistula

areas..doctor said lets watch it

I kept asking doctor for CT scan or culture of drainage of gums, he denied

May 2005 2nd opinion informed I had infection in sinus and needed another

surgery to fix loose jaw

June 2005- my surgeon said he would make me a bite plate, and he caterized the

fistulas and said there is no way to tell you have sinus infection by panoramic

xray that the other surgeon (consult) had told me, but since then I got report

of that visit with my surgeon in June and it states I had infection per

panoramic xray that he took...????

contradicting huh???

I never heard from this doctor, I called reg the bite plate he was going to

make, no phone call back....

I went to see this new surgeon, and he immed did a CT scan and it revealed 100%

right sinus full infection and left 90% ...he sceduled me for 20 hyperbarci

chamber treatment prior to this surgery at 2 hrs each..put me on high dose of

antibiotic, sent me to infectious disease doctor for consult....he said he

thought I was grinding my teeth and applying pressure to upper jaw not letting

it heal prop..

the other doctor had known from the beginning I grinded my teeth

after this last surgery , he said both plates were broken again

, so he wired me shut for 6 weeks and I have to do 10 more hyper baric chamber

treamtent after this surgery..he did say all the infection was gone that he saw

dueing this surgery..all fisutulas finally healed

so thats the story

Jill

@yahoo.ca> wrote:

Hi Jill, it's been 5 weeks for me. I had a lefort and also had my

bottom jaw moved - I had a cross-bite, over-bite and open-bite ...

lovely, huh? Why have you needed 4 different surgeries, if you

don't mind me asking. Some people only have lower-jaw surgery and

it's alot easier for them to smile after 2 weeks - the upper jaw

causes alot more swelling and takes a looonnngg time to go down.

I've met alot of people in my OS's office that have had upper

surgery done and have rarely seen someone at 2 weeks that has a

proper smile. I had a pallate expansion done 3 years ago, which is

upper jaw, and my swelling lasted a long time. I didn't even

realize how long I was swollen until I saw a picture of myself taken

3 months after the surgery - and I was still swollen, I just didn't

realize it at the time. Supposedly your features will change for a

long time as the swelling decreases.

As far as my gums go....they are the least of my worries, since I

had lower jaw surgery my lower lip and chin are numb, so if I can

regain that feeling I will be extremely happy!

Try to stay positive.....your face will change over the next couple

of months......don't let yourself get down during this healing

process, it does take a long time. Just think how you felt a week

ago and give yourself a pat on the back that you've made it through

another week. It's a slow process, isn't it?

Take care,

Pam

> > >

> > > Hello everyone! I'm just now starting the whole process on

what

> seems

> > > to be a long journey ahead. I had a quick question for anyone

> willing

> > > to offer some info. I only yesterday had my wisdom teeth

> extracted,

> > > and I was wondering what the pain comparison is like to

> orthognathic

> > > surgery. I know that there are many different types of

surgery,

> Im

> > > just trying to get an idea of what to expect..........because

Im

> in

> > > pretty severe pain right now. I can't sleep, eat, barely open

my

> > > mouth.........My surgeon told me some people complain more

about

> their

> > > wisdom teeth than they do about jaw surgery. Anyway, again,

> hello to

> > > everyone........and I appreciate anyones help.

> > > Thanks,

> > > Elliot

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Pam,

I have returned back to normal function already except for work..I try to stay

busy but when I get tired I rest. The knot (bent plate) on the side of my nose

really bothers me, I was hoping this doctor would fix it..I had it happen my

last surgery too..this one sticks out even more...he says to let things heal and

then if we have to we will take out al the plates and screws...I dont know if I

can stand more surgery...do you have any suggestion on what to do when your face

itches and of course you cant scratch..I will mention to my doctor about the

elavil med..I am already taking the ativan at night but I will wake up and feel

like Im pressing down on my teeth even though they are wired..maybe I need a

muscle relaxer...thanks for any help reg the itching...I use a heating pad and

it feels good...

Thanks Jill

v123violet wrote:

Hi Jill, you poor thing...you have been through so much! I'm glad

you have a different surgeon - I bet he's fixed everything up

properly this time. After all you've had done I understand why you

would be wanting everything to be done and overwith after this

surgery. Unfortunately...you will have to heal from this last

surgery too, and that takes time. Once you are all healed from this

surgery, it will all be in the past for you and you can get back to

life as usual - but, give yourself a couple months. I am finally

back to my life after 5 weeks, but my face still feels bad and I'm

still swollen. Two weeks is still early, if you can give yourself a

little while longer to heal, then try and resume your activities,

the healing will go by alot quicker, and the swelling will

eventually go down.

Try a heated washcloth on your face for swelling, I've been using a

heating pad, but a warm washcloth sounds better. Also...my OS has

given me Ativan for night grinding, and he also uses Elavil so

patients don't grind for the first two months.

Good luck with everything and take care of yourself.

Pam

> > > >

> > > > Hello everyone! I'm just now starting the whole process on

> what

> > seems

> > > > to be a long journey ahead. I had a quick question for

anyone

> > willing

> > > > to offer some info. I only yesterday had my wisdom teeth

> > extracted,

> > > > and I was wondering what the pain comparison is like to

> > orthognathic

> > > > surgery. I know that there are many different types of

> surgery,

> > Im

> > > > just trying to get an idea of what to

expect..........because

> Im

> > in

> > > > pretty severe pain right now. I can't sleep, eat, barely

open

> my

> > > > mouth.........My surgeon told me some people complain more

> about

> > their

> > > > wisdom teeth than they do about jaw surgery. Anyway, again,

> > hello to

> > > > everyone........and I appreciate anyones help.

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > Elliot

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Pam and Sara, thanks for the adcie,..I started using a heating pad and its feel

great,,the docto also said the plates and screw could be removed in the doctors

office..It bothers me due to more numbness and swelling afterward...let me know

if either one of youare going to have that done and if so how it goes..thanks

Jill

sazymania <no_reply > wrote: I used to apply a hot cloth to itchy

spots and that helped somewhat.

I used to also remind myself that the itching was a GOOD sign that my

nerves were coming back to life!

Keep up the recovery both of you. You've come a long way so give

yourself a pat on the shoulder.

Sara

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hello everyone! I'm just now starting the whole process

> on

> > > what

> > > > seems

> > > > > > to be a long journey ahead. I had a quick question for

> > anyone

> > > > willing

> > > > > > to offer some info. I only yesterday had my wisdom teeth

> > > > extracted,

> > > > > > and I was wondering what the pain comparison is like to

> > > > orthognathic

> > > > > > surgery. I know that there are many different types of

> > > surgery,

> > > > Im

> > > > > > just trying to get an idea of what to

> > expect..........because

> > > Im

> > > > in

> > > > > > pretty severe pain right now. I can't sleep, eat, barely

> > open

> > > my

> > > > > > mouth.........My surgeon told me some people complain

more

> > > about

> > > > their

> > > > > > wisdom teeth than they do about jaw surgery. Anyway,

> again,

> > > > hello to

> > > > > > everyone........and I appreciate anyones help.

> > > > > > Thanks,

> > > > > > Elliot

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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