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Krickett,

I would assume that they are giving you " generic " instructions that

cover all bases for them. If they give you the MOST restrictive instructions --

telling you NO vitamins, then you won't be encountering the ones that could

cause problems. You are right that the main ones they are looking for are the

Vitamin E -- which lurks in even the innocent multivitamin (though not enough

to typically cause a problem). The calcium and iron SHOULDN'T cause a problem

-- what I would do is make a list of what you DO want to take and call the

DOCTOR and specifically request to do so -- explaining why in your particular

case (WLS post op) that you believe it is important for you to continue to do

so.

If the doctor is insistent that you NOT take ANYTHING, well, a week

without will not be likely to cause a problem -- however, your doctor is really

just trying to cover his/her ass in the event that you were to take something

because you " misunderstood " his directions.

I gave my doctor a list of what I was taking and what I was going to

stop before the surgery and what I wanted to take immediately before and after

my surgery (I used a few healing herbal supplements, extra vitamin C and zinc

and calcium -- I dropped my multivitamin). She was all for it -- was pleased

with the research that I had done and agreed with what I was going to do. She

was also really pleased when I told her I was drastically increasing my

protein intake in the few weeks before surgery and for most of the healing

period

afterwards. I healed much faster than many of her patients.

Just remember, most docs offices are going to give you the " dummy "

instructions -- you have to sometimes present YOUR plan of action and get them

to

agree or disagree with it.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

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interesting you should say that

cuz i was thinking that i might increase my protein also since i am having

surgery 1/5

monday

anyone else do this? increase protein before and/or after surgery? to what

effect?

janice

Re: Confused re panni instructions

Krickett,

I would assume that they are giving you " generic " instructions that

cover all bases for them. If they give you the MOST restrictive

instructions --

telling you NO vitamins, then you won't be encountering the ones that could

cause problems. You are right that the main ones they are looking for are

the

Vitamin E -- which lurks in even the innocent multivitamin (though not

enough

to typically cause a problem). The calcium and iron SHOULDN'T cause a

problem

-- what I would do is make a list of what you DO want to take and call the

DOCTOR and specifically request to do so -- explaining why in your

particular

case (WLS post op) that you believe it is important for you to continue to

do

so.

If the doctor is insistent that you NOT take ANYTHING, well, a week

without will not be likely to cause a problem -- however, your doctor is

really

just trying to cover his/her ass in the event that you were to take

something

because you " misunderstood " his directions.

I gave my doctor a list of what I was taking and what I was going to

stop before the surgery and what I wanted to take immediately before and

after

my surgery (I used a few healing herbal supplements, extra vitamin C and

zinc

and calcium -- I dropped my multivitamin). She was all for it -- was

pleased

with the research that I had done and agreed with what I was going to do.

She

was also really pleased when I told her I was drastically increasing my

protein intake in the few weeks before surgery and for most of the healing

period

afterwards. I healed much faster than many of her patients.

Just remember, most docs offices are going to give you the " dummy "

instructions -- you have to sometimes present YOUR plan of action and get

them to

agree or disagree with it.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

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I did it prior to Panni and shortly there after. It certainly helps with

the healing.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/356/hoping for close to 200

On Fri, 2 Jan 2004 13:42:00 -0800 " Janice Sperow "

writes:

> interesting you should say that

> cuz i was thinking that i might increase my protein also since i am

> having surgery 1/5 monday

> anyone else do this? increase protein before and/or after surgery?

> to what effect?

>

> janice

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I increased protein prior to my plastics and did beautifully. I also only did

shakes and vites for a week after my tt as I was afraid to have too solid a poop

Marjie

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Krickett,

I would assume that they are giving you " generic " instructions that

cover all bases for them. If they give you the MOST restrictive

instructions --

telling you NO vitamins, then you won't be encountering the ones that could

cause problems. You are right that the main ones they are looking for are

the

Vitamin E -- which lurks in even the innocent multivitamin (though not

enough

to typically cause a problem). The calcium and iron SHOULDN'T cause a

problem

-- what I would do is make a list of what you DO want to take and call the

DOCTOR and specifically request to do so -- explaining why in your

particular

case (WLS post op) that you believe it is important for you to continue to

do

so.

If the doctor is insistent that you NOT take ANYTHING, well, a week

without will not be likely to cause a problem -- however, your doctor is

really

just trying to cover his/her ass in the event that you were to take

something

because you " misunderstood " his directions.

I gave my doctor a list of what I was taking and what I was going to

stop before the surgery and what I wanted to take immediately before and

after

my surgery (I used a few healing herbal supplements, extra vitamin C and

zinc

and calcium -- I dropped my multivitamin). She was all for it -- was

pleased

with the research that I had done and agreed with what I was going to do.

She

was also really pleased when I told her I was drastically increasing my

protein intake in the few weeks before surgery and for most of the healing

period

afterwards. I healed much faster than many of her patients.

Just remember, most docs offices are going to give you the " dummy "

instructions -- you have to sometimes present YOUR plan of action and get

them to

agree or disagree with it.

Beth

Houston, TX

VBG - Dr. Srungaram

05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

5'10 "

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>

>

> Krickett,

> I would assume that they are giving you " generic "

instructions that

> cover all bases for them. If they give you the MOST restrictive

> instructions --

> telling you NO vitamins, then you won't be encountering the ones

that could

> cause problems. You are right that the main ones they are looking

for are

> the

> Vitamin E -- which lurks in even the innocent multivitamin (though

not

> enough

> to typically cause a problem). The calcium and iron SHOULDN'T

cause a

> problem

> -- what I would do is make a list of what you DO want to take and

call the

> DOCTOR and specifically request to do so -- explaining why in your

> particular

> case (WLS post op) that you believe it is important for you to

continue to

> do

> so.

> If the doctor is insistent that you NOT take ANYTHING,

well, a week

> without will not be likely to cause a problem -- however, your

doctor is

> really

> just trying to cover his/her ass in the event that you were to

take

> something

> because you " misunderstood " his directions.

> I gave my doctor a list of what I was taking and what I was

going to

> stop before the surgery and what I wanted to take immediately

before and

> after

> my surgery (I used a few healing herbal supplements, extra vitamin

C and

> zinc

> and calcium -- I dropped my multivitamin). She was all for it --

was

> pleased

> with the research that I had done and agreed with what I was going

to do.

> She

> was also really pleased when I told her I was drastically

increasing my

> protein intake in the few weeks before surgery and for most of the

healing

> period

> afterwards. I healed much faster than many of her patients.

> Just remember, most docs offices are going to give you the

" dummy "

> instructions -- you have to sometimes present YOUR plan of action

and get

> them to

> agree or disagree with it.

>

> Beth

> Houston, TX

> VBG - Dr. Srungaram

> 05/31/00 - 314 lbs.

> 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty

> 11/29/02 - 160 lbs.

> 5'10 "

>

>

>

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<<I just got off the phone with the nurse at my PS surgeon's office.

She said that for 7 days prior to surgery I am to take no vitamins

or herbal supplements.>>

Kricket -

A word of warning. Before my last surgery on 2/14/03, I was asked what I was

taking and told my doctor, however, I forgot to tell her ALL of the

vitamins/supplements/Pain Free I was taking. I always knew about aspirin, but

don't

ever take that anymore, so I gave it no thought about what vitamins/herbals I

may have forgotten to tell her.

Long story short - while doing my panni, she had to PULL OUT and not complete

the rest of the surgery (bilateral scar revision on my outter thighs) because

of the excessive bleeding she was running into with the panni. She said the

panni took her double time because of all the bleeding and couldn't figure out

why it was happening. We pasted it all together after the surgery.

I will be having a brachioplasty, full panni revision and my leg scars

reconstructed on Feb. 10, and, believe me, I have stopped EVERYTHING except my

calcium and multivitiman. She okayed those, but just for me.

Do what your doctor advises. I never even considered " Pain Free "

(chondrotin/glucosimine) to be a problem, but anything that increases blood flow

or thins

the blood will/can be a problem. Better safe than sorry.

Believe me, I know.

Good luck.

Bobbie

Anchorage, AK

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As one who bled and bled and bled after a " mini " facelift which should have

taken about 10 days to heal from completely which ended up requiring a pump

hanging out of my ugly neck for weeks, drop everything except prescriptions

before your surgery. A week or two isn't going to hurt anything. There are

people who never take supplements and manage to live somehow, although I

won't be in that particular group of " gamblers. " Seriously, your doc may

not even know what supplements might cause excessive bleeding or other

complications since many dietary supplements are not studied that

scientifically. I was taking many things that thinned blood, apparently.

The surgeon's wife also warns against excessive Vitamin E pre-surgically,

since everyone hears it helps with healing. I was taking Omega fatty acids,

glucosamine, baby aspiring, Vitamin E and god knows what else.

Next time, I will drink water and protein before any surgery, nothing else.

in Austin

RNY April 1998

315/190s

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<<I just got off the phone with the nurse at my PS surgeon's office.

She said that for 7 days prior to surgery I am to take no vitamins

or herbal supplements.>>

Kricket -

A word of warning. Before my last surgery on 2/14/03, I was asked what I

was

taking and told my doctor, however, I forgot to tell her ALL of the

vitamins/supplements/Pain Free I was taking. I always knew about aspirin,

but don't

ever take that anymore, so I gave it no thought about what vitamins/herbals

I

may have forgotten to tell her.

Long story short - while doing my panni, she had to PULL OUT and not

complete

the rest of the surgery (bilateral scar revision on my outter thighs)

because

of the excessive bleeding she was running into with the panni.

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