Re: for the girls (OT)

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In a message dated 12/19/2003 1:42:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

suebarr@... writes:

But instead I must work, shop, do Christmas stuff, bake, clean and whatever

else comes down the pike.

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Sue, stop and think. What would you tell another person to do? We sure are

dumb when it comes to taking care of ourselves. Anyone out there see any

" musts " on that list. There is only one " must " and that is taking care of Sue's

health. This bleeding is not normal and you know it. Instead of asking the

PA, ask the surgeon, he will tell you that bleeding is never normal, but what do

you expect when you never gave your body a chance to heal from major surgery.

Do I sound really pissed at the way you are treating your body? I hope so.

Fay Bayuk

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[Guest guest]

Sue, I haven't had a hystie, but if this isn't to be expected, then

call, scream, cry, demand, threaten lawsuit, whatever it takes to get

that doctor on the phone. Let that front desk girl know that if she

doesn't comply with your request, and something serious happens to

you, she will be held liable, along with the doctor...that's how dead

serious you are about this. I hate to hear crap like this (can you

tell?)!

Feel better honey!

in NJ

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> I'm bleeding again. It's continued on today, worse than it was

before...to the point now where I've had to actually go buy pads

instead of panty liners. I'm crampy and not happy. Once again I

asked our PA if this was to be expected. He said no, to call

my doctor. So I did and the front office said that the doctor wasn't

in and she couldn't squeeze me in till the 30th. I said, ok....so

I'll just bleed till then I guess. Do you think maybe you could tell

the nurse and see what she thinks? Desk girl says, oh..ok, I could

do that. And that's all I've heard.

>

>

>

> Sue

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[Guest guest]

Let me pile on to the very good advice you have gotten so far from everyone,

but in a more graphic way: You gotta start busting some balls, Sue! Get on

the phone and say " I want to hear from the doctor ASAP, I am bleeding " do

not equivocate. Let them get pissed, what do you care! I am not saying be

nasty, I am saying be insistent. Take care of yourself, NOW.

Lucille

In a message dated 12/19/2003 6:58:48 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

> Anyhow...I'm frustrated about this. I really expected to bounce back from

> my hystie. Just didn't think it would kick my butt this badly. I think my

> tummy is more swollen than it was with my lbl. By the afternoon I look 3

> months pregnant. And the tiredness.....OMG!! I could just sleep for 2 hours,

> putz around the house, take another nap, do a little project, repeat as

needed.

> But instead I must work, shop, do Christmas stuff, bake, clean and whatever

> else comes down the pike.

>

> Ok...whining done I think......

>

> Thanks for listening..

>

> Sue

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, Sue, deep breath! Now as a 14 year hystie post op, let me tell you

unequivocally that 4 weeks is NOT long enought to recuperate! nope, nope

nope! Do you realize the hormonal cyclone you are going thru? You did have

the ovaries yanked yes? Second, no bleeding is NOT a good thing. especially

after you already had a silver nitrate treatment. Did your doc not tell you

to go home after that treatment, put your feet up and REST?? You call the

office again NOW! Demand to talk to the nurse NOW! if you do not get in

immediately, take yourself to the ER where they will call your surgeon NOW!

There is no reason for you to be jerked around by office staff. The 30th my

behind! You tell them NOW! or you will park yourself in their face and

complain loudly and at length about the irresponsiblity of the office staff.

They work for you, they are not superior to you. Now is this not what you

would tell anyone else on this list with the same problem? Like I said I

had my complete hystie 14 years ago at 34. It kicked butt for the full 6

weeks and I was barely walking up straight at 4 weeks. To say nothing of

stamina. In comparison physically RNY was a walk in the park. I don't know

why that is, but it is. Please take care of this immediately!

Phyllis (who only wants you healthy and happy!)

for the girls (OT)

Warning to guys....girls stuff here!!!

So here's the thing...I had a full hysterectomy 4 weeks ago. Been

doing..ok...and too much..back to work cause I don't get paid for staying

home. Had a problem this week...been bleeding for several days. As you may

know I work for my surgeon. So I asked our PA if this bleeding was normal.

He said if it went on for a 3rd day to all my gyn. It did and I did...on

the 4th day. So I went and got treated with silver nitrate. Can you say

OW! Three touch spots that wanted to bleed.

The gyn told me to expect some nasty discharge from this and I was ok with

that. This was yesterday morning I had the procedure. Went back to work,

then had to work seminar at night and didn't get home till nearly midnight.

Tummy hurting bad at that point and yippee...I'm bleeding again. It's

continued on today, worse than it was before...to the point now where I've

had to actually go buy pads instead of panty liners. I'm crampy and not

happy. Once again I asked our PA if this was to be expected. He said

no, to call my doctor. So I did and the front office said that the doctor

wasn't in and she couldn't squeeze me in till the 30th. I said, ok....so

I'll just bleed till then I guess. Do you think maybe you could tell the

nurse and see what she thinks? Desk girl says, oh..ok, I could do that.

And that's all I've heard.

So kids....what's a girl to do? I know the doctor is in surgery tomorrow.

I can try and get the nurse and speak with her...I don't think I need to go

to the ER, but I do think I may need more silver nitrate OW!

Anyhow...I'm frustrated about this. I really expected to bounce back from

my hystie. Just didn't think it would kick my butt this badly. I think my

tummy is more swollen than it was with my lbl. By the afternoon I look 3

months pregnant. And the tiredness.....OMG!! I could just sleep for 2

hours, putz around the house, take another nap, do a little project, repeat

as needed. But instead I must work, shop, do Christmas stuff, bake, clean

and whatever else comes down the pike.

Ok...whining done I think......

Thanks for listening..

Sue

[Guest guest]

Sue,

After my hysterectomy, I never bled. I would insist they take care of you

now. You should not be bleeding or waiting until the 30th. This is not from

a period. You are losing what you need. Our iron counts can go down fast in

my opinion.

After my stitches were removed from my abdominplasty, two places opened up.

I don't want problems with wound healing like with the breast lift. Plus I'm

having fluid build up inside for the third time. I called for two days until

I got them to see me before Christmas. I told them that I didn't want to be

stranded with problems over Christmas and no where to turn. They fully

understood and made me an appointment on the 23rd.

If nothing else helps, just show up. Let them see how run down you are and

that you need their help. I'm sure they cannot turn you away.

Hope it gets better for you soon! And please slow down! You cannot heal

properly by over doing it. I know because these things don't get done

themselves but you have to slow down. I think I've overdone it too so I

guess I can't preach. I will tell you though, with my hysterectomy, I would

get a sharp pain for months if I did anything very strenuous. This type of

surgery needs TIME.

Take care of yourself,

Dawn

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Either go to the emergency room or have the the gyn paged. This

is not normal and shouldn't wait until the 30th.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/356/hoping for close to 200

On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:40:51 -0800 " Sue Barr " writes:

> I'm crampy and not happy. Once again I

> asked our PA if this was to be expected. He said no, to call

> my doctor. So I did and the front office said that the doctor

> wasn't in and she couldn't squeeze me in till the 30th. I said,

> ok....so I'll just bleed till then I guess. Do you think maybe you

> could tell the nurse and see what she thinks? Desk girl says,

> oh..ok, I could do that. And that's all I've heard.

[Guest guest]

By the same token, I was 31 (back 20+ yrs ago) and was trying to be

pretty perky at 3 weeks. Some passing discomfort, and of course, the

visual side effects, but NOTHING like you are describing. Nothing. I

felt better even immediately post-op than I had pre-op! And I had

mine in the dark ages, in a cave, by lantern light, in comparison.

Hey, Sunrise has free valet parking, so you can simply wait there for

the doc and he can get up at 3am to see you vs the easy 3pm visit you

SHOULDA had.

You know what you have to do. Do I need to call Bob?

signed,

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for the girls (OT)

>

>

> Warning to guys....girls stuff here!!!

>

> So here's the thing...I had a full hysterectomy 4 weeks ago. Been

> doing..ok...and too much..back to work cause I don't get paid for

staying

> home. Had a problem this week...been bleeding for several days. As

you may

> know I work for my surgeon. So I asked our PA if this bleeding was

normal.

> He said if it went on for a 3rd day to all my gyn. It did and I

did...on

> the 4th day. So I went and got treated with silver nitrate. Can

you say

> OW! Three touch spots that wanted to bleed.

>

> The gyn told me to expect some nasty discharge from this and I was

ok with

> that. This was yesterday morning I had the procedure. Went back to

work,

> then had to work seminar at night and didn't get home till nearly

midnight.

> Tummy hurting bad at that point and yippee...I'm bleeding again.

It's

> continued on today, worse than it was before...to the point now

where I've

> had to actually go buy pads instead of panty liners. I'm crampy and

not

> happy. Once again I asked our PA if this was to be expected.

He said

> no, to call my doctor. So I did and the front office said that the

doctor

> wasn't in and she couldn't squeeze me in till the 30th. I said,

ok....so

> I'll just bleed till then I guess. Do you think maybe you could

tell the

> nurse and see what she thinks? Desk girl says, oh..ok, I could do

that.

> And that's all I've heard.

>

> So kids....what's a girl to do? I know the doctor is in surgery

tomorrow.

> I can try and get the nurse and speak with her...I don't think I

need to go

> to the ER, but I do think I may need more silver nitrate OW!

>

> Anyhow...I'm frustrated about this. I really expected to bounce

back from

> my hystie. Just didn't think it would kick my butt this badly. I

think my

> tummy is more swollen than it was with my lbl. By the afternoon I

look 3

> months pregnant. And the tiredness.....OMG!! I could just sleep

for 2

> hours, putz around the house, take another nap, do a little project,

repeat

> as needed. But instead I must work, shop, do Christmas stuff, bake,

clean

> and whatever else comes down the pike.

>

> Ok...whining done I think......

>

> Thanks for listening..

>

> Sue

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks to everyone for your kind and caring emails...on and off list )

I did hear from the nurse at my doctors office this morning at work (yes...I did

go to work, cuz staying home don't pay the bills, yunno?)

She (the nurse) told me I wasn't being stupid for calling (because I really,

really hate asking for help...after all, since WLS..aren't we all invincible?

Why can't I heal from an appendectomy and a hysterectomy in three weeks? I

protein loaded!)

Anyhow, she contacted my doctor who explained that the silver nitrate cauterizes

the places that are bleeding and sort of makes scabs. Well when a person moves,

as we all most sooner or later, the scabs or whatever come off, causing

bleeding, just like it would on your knee or elbow. She said it's normal but if

I should saturate a pad that I should be my butt to the ER (yes Sunrise Ms

Tattletale....) darn quick. My doctor will call me Monday morning to see how I

am and if I am still bleeding she will give me another treatment of silver

nitrate.

Meantime....well ok, I'll try really, really hard not to do any heavy lifting or

over-do it this weekend. Because I do realize that last I checked I only have

one body, and if I want it to last me for the next 30 or 40 years I better take

care of it.

Love you all!

Re: for the girls (OT)

By the same token, I was 31 (back 20+ yrs ago) and was trying to be

pretty perky at 3 weeks. Some passing discomfort, and of course, the

visual side effects, but NOTHING like you are describing. Nothing. I

felt better even immediately post-op than I had pre-op! And I had

mine in the dark ages, in a cave, by lantern light, in comparison.

Hey, Sunrise has free valet parking, so you can simply wait there for

the doc and he can get up at 3am to see you vs the easy 3pm visit you

SHOULDA had.

You know what you have to do. Do I need to call Bob?

signed,

tattle tale