Guest guest Posted November 13, 1999 Report Share Posted November 13, 1999 Read the book. It will answer all these questions and much more. Dr. At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote: >From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...> > >Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick >questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure For >All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get any >type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my >connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is that >normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I >would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I be >on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as vitamins, >minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods >should I stay away from? > >Thank you > >Sincerely, > > Mares > >>_ > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > >To change status from normal to digest: > Dr-digestonelist > >To change status from digest to normal: > Dr-normalonelist > >To subscribe: > Dr-subscribeonelist > >List Archives: >/archives.cgi/Dr > >Web sites: >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ >http://www..ch/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ R. Sooley, DC Gerald F. Sooley, DC Sooley Chiropractic Health Center 11 E. Fairchild St. Danville, IL 61832 (217) 431-3290 voice (209) 797-6521 fax Drgeorge@... " Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food. " --Hippocrates, the Father of Modern Medicine A cheerful heart is good medicine... Prov 17:22a Get paid for surfing the web! AllAdvantage.com pays you while you surf the net. It's free to join and it takes about a minute (no survey to fill out). Just go to http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BEC162 ____________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 1999 Report Share Posted November 13, 1999 Mores said he " read the book and built the zapper from its instructions " . He said the zapper doesn't seem to work. My doctor said she ordered a zapper already built and it wouldn't work, so therefore she doesn't believe any of this. I am assuming there are many people who have used the zapper and it does work and does help them. I would like to hear from some of you ... and I would like to see 's question answered by something other than " read the book " since he already said he had read it. Obviously he doesn't understand it and is asking for help. I also am waiting for some answers so I know how to address the same problem, since my doctor is pooh-pawing this, so therefore my friends/support group is also. .... Nickie Re: Questions > From: " R. Sooley, D.C. " <Drgeorge@...> > > Read the book. It will answer all these questions and much more. > > Dr. > > > At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote: > >From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...> > > > >Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick > >questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure For > >All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get any > >type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my > >connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is that > >normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I > >would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I be > >on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as vitamins, > >minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods > >should I stay away from? > > > >Thank you > > > >Sincerely, > > > > Mares > > > >>_ > > > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > > > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > > > >To change status from normal to digest: > > Dr-digestonelist > > > >To change status from digest to normal: > > Dr-normalonelist > > > >To subscribe: > > Dr-subscribeonelist > > > >List Archives: > >/archives.cgi/Dr > > > >Web sites: > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html > >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ > >http://www..ch/ > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html > >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > R. Sooley, DC > Gerald F. Sooley, DC > Sooley Chiropractic Health Center > 11 E. Fairchild St. > Danville, IL 61832 > (217) 431-3290 voice > (209) 797-6521 fax > Drgeorge@... > > " Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food. " > --Hippocrates, the Father of Modern Medicine > > A cheerful heart is good medicine... Prov 17:22a > > > Get paid for surfing the web! AllAdvantage.com pays you while you > surf the net. It's free to join and it takes about a minute (no survey to > fill out). Just go to http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BEC162 > ____________________________________________________________ > > > > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > Dr-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > Dr-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > Dr-subscribeonelist > > List Archives: > /archives.cgi/Dr > > Web sites: > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ > http://www..ch/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 1999 Report Share Posted November 13, 1999 Read the book. It will answer all these questions and much more. Dr. At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote: >From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...> > >Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick >questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure For >All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get any >type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my >connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is that >normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I >would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I be >on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as vitamins, >minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods >should I stay away from? > >Thank you > >Sincerely, > > Mares > >>_ > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > >To change status from normal to digest: > Dr-digestonelist > >To change status from digest to normal: > Dr-normalonelist > >To subscribe: > Dr-subscribeonelist > >List Archives: >/archives.cgi/Dr > >Web sites: >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ >http://www..ch/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ R. Sooley, DC Gerald F. Sooley, DC Sooley Chiropractic Health Center 11 E. Fairchild St. Danville, IL 61832 (217) 431-3290 voice (209) 797-6521 fax Drgeorge@... " Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food. " --Hippocrates, the Father of Modern Medicine A cheerful heart is good medicine... Prov 17:22a Get paid for surfing the web! AllAdvantage.com pays you while you surf the net. It's free to join and it takes about a minute (no survey to fill out). Just go to http://alladvantage.com/go.asp?refid=BEC162 ____________________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 This is my first post to this list. I will say upfront that I am not a supporter of Dr. , but I hope I will be allowed to remain on this list nonetheless. My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr. , as her claims are extremely far reaching, and they have the potential to lead people to serious harm in my opinion. I don't believe Dr. has produced verifiable evidence to support her claims of having " The Cure " for all diseases. I am doubtful about the validity of many of her claims. I was referred to in a press release circulated by Tim Bolen as a " parrot(?) " of Barrett, M.D., who is a critic of Dr. , after I attempted to attend a recent open house for Dr. in Indiana. Mr. Bolen said I " whined " when I was asked to leave. He is not telling the whole story. I think it is fair for me to post to this mailing list, and hopefully my post will help shed some light on some of the questions people may have about Dr. . I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast cancer in 1997. I have seen all sorts of wild claims for curing or slowing cancer -- claims that are backed up with little or no verifiable significant evidence. Believe it or not fraud and quackery do exist, both within and outside of the medical establishment. When someone says they have " The Cure For All Cancers " , I expect them to prove it, not for them to insist that I prove them wrong. I'm not the doctor, I'm not making the grand claims, and it's harder to prove a negative. If you're interested in knowing the views of some others, below are some links that may be helpful: http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/Cancer/clark.html http://cancerguide.org/hulda_clark.html http://www.pathfinder.com/drweil/qa_answer/0,3189,1006,00.html Finally, I know conventional doctors are not always helpful, and some are just plain bad. But they have a great deal of training, and I think most are honest people who care and work very hard, and also suffer from disease in their own families. Maybe Hulda is able to help some people that conventional doctors can't. I'm sure in some cases what she prescribes seems to work. I also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and wormwood and seemed to have bad results. But how much do you trust someone who says they have " the cure for all diseases " , and also says, " does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it cannot come back " ? Hulda is free in this country to write, publish and sell her books. I'm free to ask her to back up her fantastic claims. Thank you, Bill Ross " Nickie A. Shasteen " wrote: > Mores said he " read the book and built the zapper from its > instructions " . He said the zapper doesn't seem to work. My doctor said she > ordered a zapper already built and it wouldn't work, so therefore she > doesn't believe any of this. I am assuming there are many people who have > used the zapper and it does work and does help them. I would like to hear > from some of you ... and I would like to see 's question answered by > something other than " read the book " since he already said he had read it. > Obviously he doesn't understand it and is asking for help. I also am > waiting for some answers so I know how to address the same problem, since my > doctor is pooh-pawing this, so therefore my friends/support group is also. > ... Nickie > Re: Questions > > > From: " R. Sooley, D.C. " <Drgeorge@...> > > > > Read the book. It will answer all these questions and much more. > > > > Dr. > > > > > > At 10:15 PM 11/12/1999 PST, you wrote: > > >From: " Mares " <desert-manifesto@...> > > > > > >Hello, my name is Mares, I'm 20 years old and I have a few quick > > >questions. First, I would like to say that I enjoy your book " The Cure > For > > >All Diseases " , it's great. I built the zapper, but I don't seem to get > any > > >type of current from it, I don't feel anything when I use it, all of my > > >connections are correct and it turns on, I just don't feel anything, is > that > > >normal or is there a problem, if so, what should I do about it? Also, I > > >would like to get on the herbal parasite program, but how long should I > be > > >on the program? Should I use anything else with the herbs such as > vitamins, > > >minerals, certain foods? What exactly causes parasites and what foods > > >should I stay away from? > > > > > >Thank you > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > > Mares > > > > > >>_ > > > > > >Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > > > > > >Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > > > > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > > > > > >To change status from normal to digest: > > > Dr-digestonelist > > > > > >To change status from digest to normal: > > > Dr-normalonelist > > > > > >To subscribe: > > > Dr-subscribeonelist > > > > > >List Archives: > > >/archives.cgi/Dr > > > > > >Web sites: > > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html > > >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ > > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ > > >http://www..ch/ > > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html > > >http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html > > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > > >http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________ > > R. Sooley, DC > > Gerald F. Sooley, DC > > Sooley Chiropractic Health Center > > 11 E. Fairchild St. > > Danville, IL 61832 > > (217) 431-3290 voice > > (209) 797-6521 fax > > Drgeorge@... > > > > " Let thy food be thy medicine, and thy medicine be thy food. " > > --Hippocrates, the Father of Modern Medicine > > > > A cheerful heart is good medicine... Prov 17:22a > > > > > > Get paid for surfing the web! AllAdvantage.com pays you while you > > surf the net. It's free to join and it takes about a minute (no survey to > > fill out). 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Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 Hi Bill, Welcome to the Dr. clark list. I don't know what your point is. You remind me of someone who after being invited to someone's house pulls down his pants and shits on the living room carpet then howls with self-riteous indignation as you are thrown out of the house. You claim that " My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr. " , but I see no evidence of that. You seem to already have your mind made up and seek to discredit the good doctor. You post three links, one to a jackass who spent 15 minutes reading one of Dr. s books, Dr. Barrett (a well paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies) and one link that seems to cast doubt on parasites. What's your point? How is this investigating anything? I'm surprised you didn't trot out that other tired link to the debutante who turned up her nose at Dr. 's clinic because it didn't resemble Sloane Kettering. > I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast cancer in > 1997. Was your mother treated by Dr. ? Was she mislead by some holistic healer? What is your story? What is your motivation? Why this interest in Dr. clark? There are plenty of 'quacks' out there. Dr. Budwig claims that cottage cheese and flax oil cures cancer. What about Essiac tea or Anti Neoplasms or Rife machines? Have you interviewed Dr. 's patients? Have you tried the zapper? or did a liver flush? How are you investigating? Posting links to self-serving slanders is not a great investigative technique. > I > also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and wormwood and > seemed to have bad results. What bad results? Were they allergic? Did they get diarrhea ? what? I like to look at both sides of the issues too, but you don't seem to be posting complete information. > " does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or > chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it cannot come > back " ? This simplistic (and untrue) slander is not worthy of anyone's intelligence. I don't think there is a mechanism to kick people off of this list, but if you want to be taken seriously here I think you had better do more than parrot Barrett's crap. If you have serious misgivings with Dr. 's research, please post your own experiences and let us discuss something serious. If you just want to warn people against Dr. because Poisoning, burning and mutilating people is the only true way to treat diseases then I don't think you'll find such a warm reception here. Regards Counts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 Counts wrote: > > > Hi Bill, > > Welcome to the Dr. clark list. Thanks for the warm welcome . > > > I don't know what your point is. You remind me of someone who after being > invited to someone's house pulls down his pants and shits on the living room > carpet then howls with self-riteous indignation as you are thrown out of the > house. : I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's methods. It seems you are awfully sensitive to someone asking some legitimate questions. The Quackwatch mailing list run by Dr. Barrett allows alternate viewpoints, and those that protest as childishly as you are not long tolerated. Why the ballistic reaction to the questioning of Dr. ? My mother used to question her oncologist in his office, and he did not blow up over it. He answered her questions. Of course he was not an author who has sold hundreds of thousands of books. He also did not operate a health clinic that charges $4,500 plus other expensese for 2 weeks, and he never claimed he could cure her cancer. > > > You claim that " My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr. > " , but I see no evidence of that. You seem to already have your mind > made up and seek to discredit the good doctor. You post three links, one to > a jackass who spent 15 minutes reading one of Dr. s books, Dr. Barrett > (a well paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies) and one link that > seems to cast doubt on parasites. What's your point? How is this > investigating anything? I'm surprised you didn't trot out that other tired > link to the debutante who turned up her nose at Dr. 's clinic because > it didn't resemble Sloane Kettering. : No need to resort to name calling. Can't you express yourself in a better way? The above paragraph is your opinion. I hope others will read the links and judge for themselves. What proof do you have that Barrett is a " well paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies " ? > > > > I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast > cancer in > > 1997. > > Was your mother treated by Dr. ? **No. Was she mislead by some holistic > healer? **Almost. What is your story? **This list is not about my story, > it's about true information regarding Dr. hopefully. What is your > motivation? **As I said before, I think Dr. lacks credibility, makes > too good to be true claims about curing " All " diseases, and that she can lead > others to harm. Why this interest in > Dr. clark? There are plenty of 'quacks' out there. **Very few claim to have > the cure for all diseases. Dr. Budwig claims that > cottage cheese and flax oil cures cancer. What about Essiac tea or Anti > Neoplasms or Rife machines? Have you interviewed Dr. 's patients? > Have you tried the zapper? or did a liver flush? How are you investigating? **I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away. They're apparently afraid of some honest questions. I have called 2 patients in Canada, one in California. They were not convincing. I've talked to numerous people in healthfood stores about Dr. . I've made other phone calls, asked questions on the internet, done web searches. I have called Dr. 's publisher 4 times and did get one name to call in California that was not a cure at all. I ask you, where are all of the advanced cancer and AIDS cases has cured. These people would be shouting from the rooftops I would think if they existed. > > Posting links to self-serving slanders is not a great investigative > technique. **That's your characterization. > > > > I > > also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and wormwood > and > > seemed to have bad results. > > What bad results? Were they allergic? Did they get diarrhea ? what? I > like to look at both sides of the issues too, but you don't seem to be > posting complete information. **Nor does Dr. on those she has > supposedly cured. These people broke out in severe skin rashes I was told. > They are embarrased they ever tried the stuff. > > > " does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or > > chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it cannot > come > > back " ? > > This simplistic (and untrue) slander is not worthy of anyone's intelligence. **It may be " untrue " as you call it, but it's taken directly out of that single page in the front of her " The Cure For All Cancers " . I believe the page is titled, " You may not have time. " > > > I don't think there is a mechanism to kick people off of this list, but if > you want to be taken seriously here I think you had better do more than > parrot Barrett's crap. If you have serious misgivings with Dr. > 's research, please post your own experiences and let us discuss > something serious. If you just want to warn people against Dr. > because Poisoning, burning and mutilating people is the only true way to > treat diseases then I don't think you'll find such a warm reception here. **Again, your characterization of what I said, and I disagree. Bill Ross > > > Regards > Counts > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > Dr-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > Dr-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > Dr-subscribeonelist > > List Archives: > /archives.cgi/Dr > > Web sites: > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ > http://www..ch/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 << **I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away. They're apparently afraid of some honest questions. >> Not true. I was there and I knew Bill was planning on coming. I also knew his opinion of DR , and that he was on the healthfraud list.I emailed him and ask him what his intentions were. He didn't reply. DR had a terrible experience in the jail at CA. and the open house was for many friends and grateful people who have used her methods and are recovering. Bill knew this. I told him if he wanted to hear the testimonies of people he was welcome, if he was coming to maker a scene, we didn't need or want it. Bill and I exchanged e-mail for a week or so after the open house. In the beginning I told him if he was a fan of QUACK Barrett, we had nothing to talk about. (This man's options are sickening, sorry I think the man is evil! ) I tried to answer Bill's questions. I learned that his mother had NOT tried any of Dr 's methods!!!!!!! Yet he was ready to trash them!! He DIDN'T want to hear anything about following her protocol. I told him if he went to a doctor and was put on drugs..........which he didn't take, he had no right to call the doctor a Quack. Bill stated that if he had been Dr Jerome he would have done exactly what Dr Jerome did. Ask him to leave. So seems the story has been twisted a bit. Bill also told me he had not made up his mind about QUACK Barrett. I also explained my health problems and how DR s's methods had worked for me as well as leading me to DR Jerome who did my dental work. I believe Bill's mind was made up, but I took time with him. It looks as though my time was wasted. Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 >: I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's >methods. Yes,Bill it is. However,it is a list for those who believe in what she does.I too wonder at your motivation for coming on this list. We share stories and remedies as well as support. I say this in all honestly and without condesending intent, but I believe this is not the list you belong on if you want to argue about the validitiy of her claims. I believe you should move to another list for that. To stay here is just an invitation to argue, and that is not our focus. I believe you should be on a list of like minds of Dr. . No, this is not a discussion list to argue for or against her. Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 1999 Report Share Posted November 14, 1999 Eileen, I will not post to this list anymore, unless others on the list ask that I do. I was hoping to have some meaningful dialogue, and get some answers to many of the questions I have about Dr. 's success rate. It looks like I'll have to search elsewhere, as the whereabouts of Dr. 's many alleged cancer and AIDS success stories remain shrouded in secrecy here. Thank you for being polite, and explaining that the list is only for those who accept what Dr. says. Bill Ross Path of the White Rose wrote: > > >: I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's > >methods. > > Yes,Bill it is. However,it is a list for those who believe in what she > does.I too wonder at your motivation for coming on this list. We share > stories and remedies as well as support. > I say this in all honestly and without condesending intent, but I believe > this is not the list you belong on if you want to argue about the validitiy > of her claims. I believe you should move to another list for that. To stay > here is just an invitation to argue, and that is not our focus. > > I believe you should be on a list of like minds of Dr. . No, this is > not a discussion list to argue for or against her. > > Eileen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 1999 Report Share Posted November 15, 1999 Bill (and all) >>What proof do you have that Barrett is a " well >>paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies " ? He makes a lot of money testifying as an expert wintness on behalf of the 'Cartel'. He's also an officer of an organization (I forget it's name) that recieves donations from cartel companies. Dr. Barrett has set himself up as the antichrist of the holistic movement. Below is a sampling of his drivel. The epidemic of chronic disease in this country can be directly traced to the profit motive of the cartel that he speaks for. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ when sugar is used in moderation as part of a normal, balanced diet, it is a perfectly safe source of calories and eating pleasure Some schools that teach unscientific methods (chiropractic, naturopathy, acupuncture, and even quack nutritional methods) have achieved accreditation. Worse yet, a small percentage of individuals trained in reputable institutions (such as medical or dental schools or accredited universities) have strayed from scientific thought. The fact is that the tiny amounts of additives used in food pose no threat to human health. Some actually protect our health by preventing spoilage, rancidity, and mold growth. With minor exception, molecules made in the " factories " of nature are identical to those made in the factories of chemical companies. The pesticide residue of our food supply is extremely small and poses no health threat to the consumer. most diseases have little or nothing to do with diet Did you ever stop to think that your corner grocery, fruit market, meat market, and supermarket are also health-food stores? They are Quacks also lie when they claim that plants grown with natural fertilizers (such as manure) are nutritionally superior to those grown with synthetic fertilizers. Fertilizers can influence the levels of certain minerals in plants, but this is not a significant factor in the American diet. Fluoride is necessary to build decay-resistant teeth and strong bones. The best way to obtain adequate amounts of this important nutrient is to augment community water supplies Some approaches to " detoxification " are based on notions that, as a result of intestinal stasis, intestinal contents putrefy, and toxins are formed and absorbed, which causes chronic poisoning of the body. This " autointoxication " theory was popular around the turn of the century but was abandoned by the scientific community during the 1930s. Quacks may also suggest that fecal material collects on the lining of the intestine and causes trouble unless removed by laxatives, colonic irrigation, special diets, and/or various herbs or food supplements that " cleanse " the body. The falsity of this notion is obvious to doctors who perform intestinal surgery or peer within the large intestine with a diagnostic instrument. Fecal material does not adhere to the intestinal lining. a balanced diet provides the nutrients people need and that the USDA food-group system makes balancing your diet simple. no normal person following the U.S. Dietary Guidelines is in any danger of vitamin deficiency While some processing methods destroy some nutrients, others add them. A balanced variety of foods will provide all the nourishment you need. Food quacks relate diet not only to disease but to behavior. Some claim that adverse reactions to additives and/or common foods cause hyperactivity in children and even criminal behavior in adolescents and adults. These claims are based on a combination of delusions, anecdotal evidence, and poorly designed research. The principles of nutrition are those of human biochemistry and physiology, courses required in every medical school. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>: No need to resort to name calling. Sorry, I didn't mean to call anyone names. I thought the very difinition of a jackass was someone who potificated on a topic that they refused to even consider. Every Dr. hater on the Internet posts a link to this pathetic article. " I'm going to admit to you right up front that I haven't carefully researched Hulda 's theories. In fact, I've spent a total of about fifteen minutes looking over her book, The Cure For All Cancers, in a local health food store. That's all the time I needed to figure out if there is anything worthwhile there, but take my advice for what it's worth. " >>It seems you are awfully sensitive to someone asking some legitimate >>questions. Sorry, I didn't see any legitimate questions. >>those that protest as childishly as you are not long tolerated for a 51 year old computer programmer it's kind of a compliment to be called childish. I agree I wouldn't last long on Barrett's forum. >>I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away Thank God Dr. 's friends had the good sense not to subject her to insults and acusations after what she had been through already. Wrong time and wrong place to do your Barrett Shtick. >>I ask you, where are all of the advanced cancer and AIDS cases >>has cured. Amrein and Geoff were collecting testimonials to use in Dr. 's defense. They might be able to forward some of them to you. Regardless of whether Dr. is right or wrong about each issue (no one is right all of the time) she has done our entire culture a favor by sounding the alarm about isopropyl alcohol pervading our food and cosmetic industries, refrigerators that leak freon, dryer belts that shed asbestos, etc. Just one example is her liver flushes. Gallbladder surgery is the most lucrative surgery in this country today and totally unnecessary, since you can flush your gallstones out painlessly and keep your gallbalder and pay only a few dollars for supplies. As far as I know, you are welcome to post your questions here on the list, but if you parrot Dr. Barrett's crap put on your asbestos underwear. Regards Counts Re: Questions > From: Bill Ross <rossviva@...> > > > > Counts wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Bill, > > > > Welcome to the Dr. clark list. > > Thanks for the warm welcome . > > > > > > > I don't know what your point is. You remind me of someone who after being > > invited to someone's house pulls down his pants and shits on the living room > > carpet then howls with self-riteous indignation as you are thrown out of the > > house. > > : I thought this was a mailing list for the discussion of Dr. 's > methods. It seems you are awfully sensitive to someone asking some legitimate > questions. The Quackwatch mailing list run by Dr. Barrett allows alternate > viewpoints, and those that protest as childishly as you are not long tolerated. > Why the ballistic reaction to the questioning of Dr. ? My mother used to > question her oncologist in his office, and he did not blow up over it. He > answered her questions. Of course he was not an author who has sold hundreds of > thousands of books. He also did not operate a health clinic that charges > $4,500 plus other expensese for 2 weeks, and he never claimed he could cure her > cancer. > > > > > > > You claim that " My goal is to get to the truth about the claims of Dr. > > " , but I see no evidence of that. You seem to already have your mind > > made up and seek to discredit the good doctor. You post three links, one to > > a jackass who spent 15 minutes reading one of Dr. s books, Dr. Barrett > > (a well paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies) and one link that > > seems to cast doubt on parasites. What's your point? How is this > > investigating anything? I'm surprised you didn't trot out that other tired > > link to the debutante who turned up her nose at Dr. 's clinic because > > it didn't resemble Sloane Kettering. > > : No need to resort to name calling. Can't you express yourself in a > better way? The above paragraph is your opinion. I hope others will read the > links and judge for themselves. What proof do you have that Barrett is a " well > paid stooge of the drug and chemical companies " ? > > > > > > > > I'm not a medical expert. I'm the son of a woman who died of breast > > cancer in > > > 1997. > > > > Was your mother treated by Dr. ? **No. Was she mislead by some holistic > > healer? **Almost. What is your story? **This list is not about my story, > > it's about true information regarding Dr. hopefully. What is your > > motivation? **As I said before, I think Dr. lacks credibility, makes > > too good to be true claims about curing " All " diseases, and that she can lead > > others to harm. Why this interest in > > Dr. clark? There are plenty of 'quacks' out there. **Very few claim to have > > the cure for all diseases. Dr. Budwig claims that > > cottage cheese and flax oil cures cancer. What about Essiac tea or Anti > > Neoplasms or Rife machines? Have you interviewed Dr. 's patients? > > Have you tried the zapper? or did a liver flush? How are you investigating? > > **I drove 3 hours to attend her open house and was turned away. They're > apparently afraid of some honest questions. I have called 2 patients in > Canada, one in California. They were not convincing. I've talked to numerous > people in healthfood stores about Dr. . I've made other phone calls, asked > questions on the internet, done web searches. I have called Dr. 's > publisher 4 times and did get one name to call in California that was not a cure > at all. I ask you, where are all of the advanced cancer and AIDS cases > has cured. These people would be shouting from the rooftops I would think if > they existed. > > > > > Posting links to self-serving slanders is not a great investigative > > technique. > > **That's your characterization. > > > > > > > > I > > > also know of 2 people who tried her walnut tincture, cloves and wormwood > > and > > > seemed to have bad results. > > > > What bad results? Were they allergic? Did they get diarrhea ? what? I > > like to look at both sides of the issues too, but you don't seem to be > > posting complete information. **Nor does Dr. on those she has > > supposedly cured. These people broke out in severe skin rashes I was told. > > They are embarrased they ever tried the stuff. > > > > > " does this mean you can cancel your date for surgery, radiation or > > > chemotherapy? Yes! After curing your cancer with this recipe it cannot > > come > > > back " ? > > > > This simplistic (and untrue) slander is not worthy of anyone's intelligence. > > **It may be " untrue " as you call it, but it's taken directly out of that single > page in the front of her " The Cure For All Cancers " . I believe the page is > titled, " You may not have time. " > > > > > > > I don't think there is a mechanism to kick people off of this list, but if > > you want to be taken seriously here I think you had better do more than > > parrot Barrett's crap. If you have serious misgivings with Dr. > > 's research, please post your own experiences and let us discuss > > something serious. If you just want to warn people against Dr. > > because Poisoning, burning and mutilating people is the only true way to > > treat diseases then I don't think you'll find such a warm reception here. > > **Again, your characterization of what I said, and I disagree. > > Bill Ross > > > > > > > Regards > > Counts > > > > > _ > > > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > > > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > > > > To change status from normal to digest: > > Dr-digestonelist > > > > To change status from digest to normal: > > Dr-normalonelist > > > > To subscribe: > > Dr-subscribeonelist > > > > List Archives: > > /archives.cgi/Dr > > > > Web sites: > > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html > > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ > > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ > > http://www..ch/ > > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html > > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html > > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > _ > > Subscription URL: /subscribe.cgi/Dr > > Send blank message to this e-mail address if you want to: > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE !!!!!!!!! : > > Dr-unsubscribeonelist > > To change status from normal to digest: > Dr-digestonelist > > To change status from digest to normal: > Dr-normalonelist > > To subscribe: > Dr-subscribeonelist > > List Archives: > /archives.cgi/Dr > > Web sites: > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/hypothyroidism.html > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ > http://www..ch/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/cancer2.html > http://home.sol.no/~huldakli/cancer2.html > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones/ > http://home.sol.no/~dusan/ER4YT/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 1999 Report Share Posted November 17, 1999 Re: Questions Bill, May I offer the following: In July 1996 my wife went in for emergency surgery to remove a large mass from her temporal lope. The neurosurgeon told me that unless she had surgery immediately she would lapse into a coma. The pathological studies indicated she had a stage III astrocytoma. He was only able to remove 80% of the mass. After a 2 months of post operative recovery she underwent a radiation treatment---the max one can get in life-time. Scans indicated the tumor was gone. This was in Oct. of 1996. It was also in Oct that I first saw Dr. 's book, The Cure For All Cancers. I dismissed it as bombast without reading it. In Feb. 1997 a MRI scan indicated that the cancer was back. We were devastated. Since there were no known effective " chemo " treatments for brain cancer and more radiation was out of the question, surgery was all that was left to us. It was at this time that I recalled 's book and decided to read it. I was astonished by what I read. We decided to try the parricide treatment. But we did not use 's Herbs. We use a tincture of fresh-green black-walnut oil, clove oil and wormwood which we purchase at a local heath food store under the product label of NOW. She took a teaspoon of the stuff every day for two weeks. We then went in and had a MRI scan. Remarkably the scan indicated a significant reduction in the size of the tumor. But the Dr.s still advised surgery to remove what was left. We agreed. In July of 1997 she went under the knife again, But the surgeon was not able to remove with certainty 100% the affected area. Post operative scans confirmed this. She continued with the parricide program and added daily use of the zapper and also took flax oil and cottage cheese as way fortifying her metabolism. Since July of 1997 we have had MRI scans every six month. Every one has been clear with not a hint of tumor or abnormality. Even our Dr. asked for the protocol we were using. Does the treatment work? I believe it does. But one must follow the guidelines and be willing not only to educate one's self about the disease, but also be willing to change one's habits. I have seen a people with cancer take 's methods apply them in limited manner, eliminate their tumors, but later under pressure from doctors or family stop the program or fail to take seriously the charge to change one's diet or habits. In one case a man with terminal liver cancer got rid of his liver tumor (as per MRI scan), but later was talked out of the protocol and life-style changes by his doctor. And now two years later the cancer is back and yet he refuses to go back on the program because he does not want to disappoint his doctor! Yet, his Dr. can do nothing for him. Amazing! I have two other incidents that I might relay at another time concerning liver cancer if anyone is interested or you may contact me by email at asolbach@.... A Solbach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2000 Report Share Posted January 5, 2000 Jello has sugar in it! I talk to an internet Naturopath & he gives herbs! i will give you his web site, i suggest you print it all out & read how he thinks, he describes everything real good, i know of other people who talk to him & we have very good results. you don't necessarily have to talk to him but you might understand what your up against. Any questions please feel free to ask us & we'll do our best to help! my stomach has been so upset before i couldn't move, but i was going thru a Die-off. health-truth.com/tourprogram.htm his name is Biamonte Keep in touch! Mogdrmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Can only respond to the part about stomach aches. Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that I have tried to change my diet, not drink so much caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do not have such severity. But it all returns when I drop any one thing. Good luck, it gets better. Also, jello has sugar, additives and many chemicals. I have been suprised at what's in most every pre-packaged good. I am now a big label reader. --- " Ron, Robyn, & " <sutterrl@...> wrote: > Does Jello affect Candidia? > I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it > was written wrong. > > Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad > you have to haunch over? > > Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a > massively bad kidney infection?? > > Is it really curable, or only controlled?? > > What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or > if she just doesn't want to run the test? Is there > a test I could at home to find out?? > > I have so many more questions. I keep looking at > all different websites about it and when I think I > know what is going on, I find a website that > contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!! > > Well thank you for taking the time to read this!! > ) > > -- > Send blank message to > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Matty O'Shea wrote: > Can only respond to the part about stomach aches. > Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that I > have tried to change my diet, not drink so much > caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do not > have such severity. But it all returns when I drop > any one thing. Hello - I'm writing from England and was very interested in Matty's mail. Were the stomach aches in the form of pain or tension that started when you moved, and even caused breathing difficulty? That's my story and I desparately want to know the cause: candida, IBS, hiatus hernia, CFS or whatever. It's driving me round the bend, and my radar went into action when I read this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 You are so right about reading those lables. Our whole family is on a natural diet now. We make everything from scratch. I look for no sugar in everything. Or, no artificial sugars. I look for things that are going to be healthy for us all. We all should share our recipies with each other, and live styles to help each other develope ways to get rid of all of this garbage. I only have problems when I cheat on the sugar thing. I eat tortias instead of bread with my eggs in the morning. Lots of fresh veggies, lean meat, chicken, and fish. Remember in the olden days they did not have sugar. Myra Re: Questions Can only respond to the part about stomach aches. Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that I have tried to change my diet, not drink so much caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do not have such severity. But it all returns when I drop any one thing. Good luck, it gets better. Also, jello has sugar, additives and many chemicals. I have been suprised at what's in most every pre-packaged good. I am now a big label reader.. --- " Ron, Robyn, & " <sutterrl@...> wrote: > Does Jello affect Candidia? > I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it > was written wrong.. > > Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad > you have to haunch over? > > Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a > massively bad kidney infection?? > > Is it really curable, or only controlled?? > > What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or > if she just doesn't want to run the test? Is there > a test I could at home to find out?? > > I have so many more questions. I keep looking at > all different websites about it and when I think I > know what is going on, I find a website that > contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!! > > Well thank you for taking the time to read this!! > ) > > -- > Send blank message to > candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to > UNSUBSCRIBE ! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2000 Report Share Posted January 6, 2000 Hi , sorry to hear about your pain, but I know it is treatable by doing several things: identifying trigger foods, liquids and emotions; dertermining digestive functioning; identifying whether yeast and parasites are causing you to not digest and absorb your food. The pains I would get seemed to come most often and severly after I drank any caffine on an empty stomach, when I got stressed out (I perform and would get bad case of the bleches (sp?) before a show or when I had an argument). It would also happen for no seemingly particular reason. It would hurt no matter what I did but definitely more when i moved. The severe bloating in my gut makes it very hard to breathe. I still get these attacks often because I am not out of the woods and I cheat on the food alot. For me, i have discovered that yeast and parasites and low stomach acid have made me unable to digest, absorb and expell my food. It sits there in my gut and makes me miserable. I go to the dr. today to start tests to put a name on all this, but the " cure " i've been doing before my insurance kicked in has been working. Working in the sense that as I have starting to rid my body of the yeast and parasites (and going throught severe bloat and die-off reactions from the little dying buggers)my stomach pains are less severe. I can stand the current discomfort of die off (which is worse than anything I had before) because I know I am on the right track. Good luck, I hope I helped with my story. Matty --- " Rev. Hinkley " <bhinkley@...> wrote: > > > Matty O'Shea wrote: > > > Can only respond to the part about stomach aches. > > Used to get them so bad I couldn't walk. Now that > I > > have tried to change my diet, not drink so much > > caffine and take HC1 and digestive enzymes, I do > not > > have such severity. But it all returns when I > drop > > any one thing. > > Hello - I'm writing from England and was very > interested in Matty's mail. Were the stomach > aches in the form of pain or tension that started > when you moved, and even caused breathing > difficulty? That's my story and I desparately want > to know the cause: candida, IBS, > hiatus hernia, CFS or whatever. It's driving me > round the bend, and my radar went into > action when I read this. > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 ... > dying buggers)my stomach pains are less severe. I can > stand the current discomfort of die off (which is > worse than anything I had before) because I know I am > on the right track. Good luck, I hope I helped with ... A personal observation (not yet 100% science fact) but may help some of you to avoid the worst moments of pain: drink *lots* of clean water. Yeast produces poisons and toxins (AFAIK) and drinking lots of water speeds up the digestive system and helps your body get rid of them. Tell me if this helps you. (It has helped me, but I haven't been diagnosed or received any medication for candidiasis, so I can't speak for certain.) Can someone tell me the symptoms of a die-off? How does it feel? Are the effects the same as eating yeast products? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Ron, Robyn, & wrote: > Does Jello affect Candidia? > I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it was written wrong. It has sugar. > Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad you have to haunch over? Migh be also allergic reactions? > Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a massively bad kidney infection?? To kidney pain at least. > Is it really curable, or only controlled?? I'm told everyone has candidia, and for some of us, our immune system fails to keep it under control due to some factors? > What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or if she just > doesn't want to run the test? Is there a test I could at home to > find out?? Change your doctor. Go talk to a doctor of biology about yeasts. Medical doctors only know a list of diseases by heart and their cures. They have no brains to understand something witch doesn't match anything they've been taught. They could and should be replaced with an AI computer. They would do a much better job anyway. AFAIK, MOST candidia patients have experiences with useless doctors. Test yourself by eliminating alcohol, sugar and yeast out of your diet. Compare the foodlists that cause you symptoms. Compare the symptoms. > I have so many more questions. I keep looking at all different > websites about it and when I think I know what is going on, I find > a website that contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!! Web is full of shit, " doctors " with miracle cures, and people who don't know shit. One word: Yeast. Get an advanced biology text book and learn all you can about yeast, what feeds it and what kills it. That's the key. If not, get hold of a biology doctorate and talk to him or her about yeasts. THEY *know* this stuff WAY better than any medical doctors I've met. ++ J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 You are so right about this one. We need to talk. Myra Re: Questions > On Wed, 5 Jan 2000, Ron, Robyn, & wrote: > > > Does Jello affect Candidia? > > I read it does, but I can't figure out why or if it was written wrong.. > > It has sugar.. > > > Does anyone get unexplained stomach pains, so bad you have to haunch over? > > Migh be also allergic reactions? > > > Has anyone had or can connect Candidia to a massively bad kidney infection?? > > To kidney pain at least.. > > > Is it really curable, or only controlled?? > > I'm told everyone has candidia, and for some of us, our > immune system fails to keep it under control due to some factors? > > > What can I do if my doc thinks it doesn't exist, or if she just > > doesn't want to run the test? Is there a test I could at home to > > find out?? > > Change your doctor. Go talk to a doctor of biology about yeasts.. > > Medical doctors only know a list of diseases by heart and their cures.. > They have no brains to understand something witch doesn't match > anything they've been taught. They could and should be replaced with > an AI computer. They would do a much better job anyway. AFAIK, MOST > candidia patients have experiences with useless doctors.. > > Test yourself by eliminating alcohol, sugar and yeast out of your > diet. Compare the foodlists that cause you symptoms. Compare the > symptoms.. > > > I have so many more questions. I keep looking at all different > > websites about it and when I think I know what is going on, I find > > a website that contradicts what I just read. VERY FRUSTRATING!! > > Web is full of shit, " doctors " with miracle cures, and people who > don't know shit.. > > One word: Yeast. Get an advanced biology text book and learn all you > can about yeast, what feeds it and what kills it. That's the key.. > If not, get hold of a biology doctorate and talk to him or her about > yeasts. THEY *know* this stuff WAY better than any medical doctors > I've met.. > > ++ J > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2000 Report Share Posted January 7, 2000 Every one one the list has die off in different ways. One person said it was like the flu, another one said they craved more sugar and got past that. So you just have to stay in contact with your body. Myra Re: Questions > .. > > > dying buggers)my stomach pains are less severe. I can > > stand the current discomfort of die off (which is > > worse than anything I had before) because I know I am > > on the right track. Good luck, I hope I helped with > > .. > > A personal observation (not yet 100% science fact) but > may help some of you to avoid the worst moments of pain: > drink *lots* of clean water.. > > Yeast produces poisons and toxins (AFAIK) and drinking > lots of water speeds up the digestive system and helps > your body get rid of them.. > > Tell me if this helps you. (It has helped me, but I haven't > been diagnosed or received any medication for candidiasis, > so I can't speak for certain.) > > Can someone tell me the symptoms of a die-off? > How does it feel? Are the effects the same as > eating yeast products? > > Thanks! > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2000 Report Share Posted January 8, 2000 I suggest looking up health-truth.com/tour program.htm It is a web site of Biamonte of whom i have been following for the past 2 yrs & have had good results. You don't have to call him if you don't want but print out all his literature, he explains his theory & it makes sense. I keep my own Dr. here in town for emergencies & have given her the information so she is learning some about Candida. & she agrees he is helping where she couldn't & my body was certainly doing some weird things she didn't understand. Good Luck! keep in touch, we all have different opinions, but basically it all works, some of us take different routes & have success, i suggest reading his material it is the best i have found. Have a good day! Mogdrmom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2000 Report Share Posted March 12, 2000 Hi, MGN3 is made of the outer layer, bran of brown rice. It has alot of iP6 in it. My husband is on Cantron(previusly called Cancell) we can not take ip6 becaues the two are contradictory to each other. i did hear it is a good product. will you plaese put me in touch with someone who is using it? i can give you a name of a woman with breast cancer with mets to bones who was given a short time to live she refused chemo and did only Cancell she is almost clean now. never went to the hospital. esty --- harmony1@... wrote: > I'm wondering if anyone has tried MGN-3 or IP-6 and > what were your > results or the results of the patient. My Mom > started taking mgn-3 and > a friends Dad has been taking IP-6 for a while. He > has colon cancer that > > has mestastised to his liver. His Dr. gave him 2 > weeks to live several > monnths ago and he looks and feels great. He is very > active and no pain. > > Mom has breast cancer and is scheduled for surgery > in a few weeks. > I read that they are both active in building the > immune system up and > also > killer T-cells. What do you think ? > Ann > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2000 Report Share Posted March 13, 2000 Dear Ann, I had a lump removed last Dec. 1999, I take mgn-3 now. My advice is that your mother have a couple of tests now before surgery they are ca27.29 and amas both are blood test. The Ca 27.29 is a breast cancer marker and can tell you what treatments are helping. Taking the test now would give a good basis to tell if numbers become more normal that maybe surgery is all that is needed. It could prevent unnecessary use of chemo or radiation. I wish someone had advised me of this before my surgery. I have these tests every 3 months to monitor my treatments. My doctor recommended mgn-3 so I feel it is good for me. Your mother can be muscle tested if you know someone good at it. Hope this helps. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 DIANNE I THINK EACH CASE IS DIFFERENT LIKE YOU SAID. BUT I'VE HEARD THAT SOME KIDS WITH JRA GET IN MEDICAL REMISSION AND HAVE NO OR LITTLE SIGNS OF JRA AT ALL. MY DAUGHTER HAS PAUCI JRA AND ON HER GOOD DAYS SHE HAS STIFFNESS IN THE MORNINGS THAT CAN BE GREATLY RELIEVED BY A WARM BATH BEFORE SCHOOL. SHE IS NOT IN REMISSION YET AND WHEN SHE " FLARES " SHE CAN BE REDUCED TO NEEDING HELP FOR EVERYDAY THINGS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED WHEN SHE ISN'T FLARING. SUCH AS WALKING ,FEEDING HERSELF, USING THE BATHROOM BY HERSELF,ETC. WELL I WOULD WRITE MORE BUT SHE JUST WOKE UP WITH A NIGHT TERROR BETTER GO. CHARLENE(CHYCHYS MOM) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2000 Report Share Posted August 26, 2000 Diane, First of all, there is no such thing as a stupid question! Flares are when joints are swelling and painful, fevers, etc... basically its the jra " acting up " . They can occur at any time, and can last as long as a day or months. It does vary from person to person, and is pretty much unpredictable. I know with my daughter, Kelsey, that when she is sick her joints are more swollen, warmer, and she has more pain. And sometimes her joints will flare up for no apparent reason, and be better by the next day. When Kelsey is feeling her best, you would never know she has jra. So we have learned to take these good days we've been having for all they're worth, enjoying every minute of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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