Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 Oh my, oh my, oh my!! I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't improved as much as we had hoped and expected??Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely overwhelmed and very badly about this.Eileen Mother of 19 yo sonUC BUTTER Hi, I've only been following the SCD diet for a couple of months now and I was hoping someone could tell me a specific brand of butter that was legal. I was using a bit of country crock to butter a pan but stopped because I read it contained milk. I was fine not using butter but I stumbled upon some recipes I wanted to try that called for a whole cup full. I bought this brand called earth balance soy free because it said gluten and dairy free but when I got it home I read it was derived from corn... and corn is illegal... help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 You don't have to eat cultured butter - just regular supermarket butter is okay - as long asit doesn't have anything added or natural flavors (that ingredient is added more often thanyou think, so be careful about that). Cultured butter is a great idea, but expensive and not necessary.OTOH, perhaps your son is reacting to butter and would do better with culturedbutter or ghee. It's something you could check. It's easy to make ghee, and if you doa pound at a time, it lasts a long time. Essentially you cook it for an hour at 250 - it separates into three layers - and then very carefully strain out the impurities in thetop and bottom layer - you want the middle stuff. But you weren't doing anything wrong. So don't feel bad. You are needlessly stressing yourself. It takes a while to sort all of this out. MaraOh my, oh my, oh my!! I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't improved as much as we had hoped and expected??Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely overwhelmed and very badly about this.Eileen Mother of 19 yo sonUC BUTTER Hi, I've only been following the SCD diet for a couple of months now and I was hoping someone could tell me a specific brand of butter that was legal. I was using a bit of country crock to butter a pan but stopped because I read it contained milk. I was fine not using butter but I stumbled upon some recipes I wanted to try that called for a whole cup full. I bought this brand called earth balance soy free because it said gluten and dairy free but when I got it home I read it was derived from corn... and corn is illegal... help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 The ingrediant lable on the butter I have been using does read "natural flavorings". However, I have some Land of Lakes that only lists "Sweet Cream and Salt" but then adds "Contains milk". Is Land of Lakes OK? Why the separate item listed that way regarding milk? We have not been using the Land of Lakes...just was given to me last week. I will switch pronto though if it is legal! Thanks for calming the stress Eileen BUTTER Hi, I've only been following the SCD diet for a couple of months now and I was hoping someone could tell me a specific brand of butter that was legal. I was using a bit of country crock to butter a pan but stopped because I read it contained milk. I was fine not using butter but I stumbled upon some recipes I wanted to try that called for a whole cup full. I bought this brand called earth balance soy free because it said gluten and dairy free but when I got it home I read it was derived from corn... and corn is illegal... help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I don't think you did anything bad! I thought all butter (dont' know about cultured) had a little bit of milk in it, hence the recommendation to try ghee if you seem to have trouble with it. Ghee is just butter that has the milk solids removed so it's much purer. If there's no casein problem butter may be fine. Oh my, oh my, oh my!! > > I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't improved as much as we had hoped and expected?? > > Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely overwhelmed and very badly about this. > > Eileen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I believe the Land O lakes salted butter with only cream and salt is fine. Anything with " flavors " is not. PJ > > I don't think you did anything bad! I thought all butter (dont' know > about cultured) had a little bit of milk in it, hence the > recommendation to try ghee if you seem to have trouble with it. Ghee > is just butter that has the milk solids removed so it's much > purer. If there's no casein problem butter may be fine. > > > > > > Oh my, oh my, oh my!! > > > > I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has > had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for > the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because > I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't > improved as much as we had hoped and expected?? > > > > Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain > cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely > overwhelmed and very badly about this. > > > > Eileen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 I'm thinking it says " contains milk " under the assumption that some people with a dairy allergy might not know that cream is a milk product? And from a corporate perspective, better safe than sorry, so that they cannot get sued? Anyone know for sure? Watch out for the Land o'Lakes without salt, however. I believe that one has flavors in it. Mara > I believe the Land O lakes salted butter with only cream and salt is fine. Anything with " flavors " is not. > > PJ > > >> >> I don't think you did anything bad! I thought all butter (dont' know >> about cultured) had a little bit of milk in it, hence the >> recommendation to try ghee if you seem to have trouble with it. Ghee >> is just butter that has the milk solids removed so it's much >> purer. If there's no casein problem butter may be fine. >> >> >> >> >> >> Oh my, oh my, oh my!! >>> >>> I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has >> had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for >> the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because >> I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't >> improved as much as we had hoped and expected?? >>> >>> Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain >> cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely >> overwhelmed and very badly about this. >>> >>> Eileen >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Sigh of relief on this side of cyber space...thanks to all who clarified my understanding about butter. Re: Re: BUTTER BOO BOO!!!! (was BUTTER) I'm thinking it says "contains milk" under the assumption that some people with a dairyallergy might not know that cream is a milk product? And from a corporate perspective,better safe than sorry, so that they cannot get sued? Anyone know for sure? Watch out for the Land o'Lakes without salt, however. I believe that one has flavors init. Mara> I believe the Land O lakes salted butter with only cream and salt is fine. Anything with "flavors" is not.> > PJ> > >> >> I don't think you did anything bad! I thought all butter (dont' know >> about cultured) had a little bit of milk in it, hence the >> recommendation to try ghee if you seem to have trouble with it. Ghee >> is just butter that has the milk solids removed so it's much >> purer. If there's no casein problem butter may be fine.>> >> >> >> >> >> Oh my, oh my, oh my!!>>> >>> I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has >> had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for >> the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because >> I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't >> improved as much as we had hoped and expected??>>> >>> Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain >> cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely >> overwhelmed and very badly about this.>>> >>> Eileen>> > > > > > ------------------------------------> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Butter is about 95% to 99% fat, even though it is made from milk/cream. No lactose in it as far as I recall from my research into fats, just water and some other biochemicals. So you haven’t done anything wrong. Butter is a good source of fats for our diet, which is why so many of our SCD recipes call for butter. We just have to pick a brand of butter that doesn’t have illegal ingredients added. I also avoid any butter that has natural flavorings or color. I look for an ingredient list that says cream/milk, and salt, sometimes, although I prefer unsalted butter. Cultured butter isn’t as easy to find, and tends to be more expensive. Ghee is also another option. I can’t eat any other dairy products such as yogurt or cheese, because of a sensitivity to casein, but my body tolerates butter as long as I keep the amount tiny but that is because of my upper GI malfunctions. Some do OK with butter, some prefer to use ghee, some prefer to use other oils. All depends on how our body is handling fats. Kim M. SCD 6 years Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't improved as much as we had hoped and expected?? Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely overwhelmed and very badly about this. Eileen Mother of 19 yo son UC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 Thanks for the responses to my question on butter. I bought Land O Lakes, it said just sweet cream and salt. I feel better now. I was worried it was like yoghurt and had to be fermented for 24 hours but wasn't, as store bought yoghurt isn't. > > > > I don't think you did anything bad! I thought all butter (dont' know > > about cultured) had a little bit of milk in it, hence the > > recommendation to try ghee if you seem to have trouble with it. Ghee > > is just butter that has the milk solids removed so it's much > > purer. If there's no casein problem butter may be fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my, oh my, oh my!! > > > > > > I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has > > had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for > > the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because > > I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't > > improved as much as we had hoped and expected?? > > > > > > Can someone please explain the cultured idea? Are there certain > > cheddar cheeses that are not legal as well? I am feeling extremely > > overwhelmed and very badly about this. > > > > > > Eileen > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 At 07:39 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote: I had no idea that the butter my son has been easily consuming has had milk in it!! He has been eating it freely and quite liberally for the past 3 1/2 months. I missed this entirely from the get go because I read that butter is legal. Could this possibly be why he hasn't improved as much as we had hoped and expected?? Butter is milk fat. It is legal. They have to say " contains milk " because it is derived from milk. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 At 09:15 PM 9/13/2010, you wrote: The ingrediant lable on the butter I have been using does read " natural flavorings " . However, I have some Land of Lakes that only lists " Sweet Cream and Salt " but then adds " Contains milk " . Is Land of Lakes OK? Why the separate item listed that way regarding milk? We have not been using the Land of Lakes...just was given to me last week. I will switch pronto though if it is legal! Land O' Lakes is fine. That's what you're looking for " Sweet Cream and Salt. No natural flavorings. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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