Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 that is so exciting. I too have a pulmo dude, but I also see a Dr. of Chinese medicine, she is from Austria and lives in Boulder co. I take 2 different kinds of Chinese tinctures. One is for the respiratory and the other for liver. Remember everyone if your liver is functioning to its fullest alot of things fall apart. When I see her she too is really all about how I'm feeling. She feels that I can maintain where I'm at and hopefully some day get back some of my scared lungs. This is not for everyone but what do I have to loose, nothing. Because what she does for me mentally too is give me hope, where as the other doctors its like I'm sorry!! I'm I still scared that it won't work, but nothing else is working for me either, so I just have to be patient and hope that I will live for a long timeI'm so happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep me up on your progress please, your the first one that I know who may do this alternative type of medicine. Gascoigne SD, 50 yrs old, Renaud's 2008, IPF 7/2009To: Breathe-Support ; pulmonaryfibrosis Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 10:20:38 PMSubject: FW: Glitches & Being a 'Work In Progress' Part 1 WARNING…2 long POSTS coming….Ignore/Delete…. all those who hate such numbers! Hi Air Family…it’s probably about time I filled you in on my latest Discoveries AND my lovely new Respiratory Physician…my former Dude has left Lismore so I had to find a Newbie….my Respiratory Rehab Nurse Specialist told me of a new guy visiting Lismore every week from Brisbane, who’s set up a 2nd Lung Clinic here, in the last year & she’d been getting good reports…soooooo I give him a GO! WOW…I’ve hit my JACKPOT with him…he’s been part of the main Brisbane Lung Transplant Clinic but decided he wanted to go out on his own to be able to offer a more Holistic approach to Lung Treatment..he’s Chinese Australian…...so THAT makes sense! Suits me just fine! I can TALK to him…he’s had a lot of Big Teaching Hospital experience but he’s not averse to listening to where I was at in my own journey. He offers several ‘Pathways of Treatment & Management’…he talks in terms of OPTIONS & how there is NO one solution & as yet no successful, PROVEN cure so it depends on which Pathway his Patients decide they want to take with his guidance & support….From all my research & reading this Forum I get the impression that he’s really up-to-date with all the Trials & where it’s all at! OMG was I HEARING right! So…he reviews everything.. ASKS my reaction to the possibility of Lung Transplant.. we go into HUGE discussion of THAT from a Medical, Cultural, Esoteric, Spiritual perspective…he RESPECTS my views (I don’t want a Transplant ..if I had he’d have pushed to get me into evaluation & onto the List ASAP ‘cos I’m coming up to the Cut-off Age in OZ!)… & we move on to DRUGS… Same scenario…….we’ll visit there again…he has some very different ways of approaching Drug Treatment that MAY allow me to consider them at a stage down the track. Instead of the ‘naughty school-girl response (that I’ve had from other Res Phys) I get LISTENED to & a discussion of various pros & cons & creative ways of approaching the whole thing! He VALIDATED my intelligence in researching everything & wasn’t at all threatened.. he SAID he can have much better Management Plans with his ‘switched ON’ patients….. He also gave me CREDIT for improved PFT outcomes since I’ve been putting in so much effort into Exercise & Weight Loss…YES there is a DIRECT CONNECTION between WEIGHT & PF outcomes. We CAN improve our Lung Function by losing weight & getting Fitter…..he immediately noticed the Weight Loss when he was reviewing my PFT’s from the last few years…… He asked if it was intentional & was really interested in what I’d been doing. He encouraged me to keep going but carefully given a few more complications that have arisen (I’ll write about THAT in a separate Post!) Except for my GP none of the others had noticed let alone asked me anything! Importantly, he told me that it seemed to him that I’d never been fully & properly evaluated, especially for Connective Tissue Disease (TRUE!) & he’d have to get me up to Brisbane to do that……PF is a Metropolitan Disease Management Scenario he said BUT he’d also be able to see me on his Lismore visits for Support & Encouragement. He was HORRIFIED that I was only trotting along once a Year to the former bloke! So he’s set GOALS & Desired Outcomes & we’re working towards that! First my new set of glitches have to be addressed ….on to Part 2 of the Work in Progress Saga…if you’re still with me! HA! See you next POST.. GIO So in Oz IPF: Fibrotic NSIP/UIP ?? Reynauds' May 2007 Express yourself with over 10,000 FREE Email Smileys - click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Hi ..yeah while this guy is a 'Regular' Specialist he's clearly not averse to me working with other modalities (acupuncture/ herbal medicine/ anti-oxident therapy..Refreshing!). It makes it so much easier to be upfront about things! I notice you too have Raynaud's...he said 40% of NSIP PF folk have Raynaud's while only 10% of UIP patients present with it! Cheers, ort , Gascoigne wrote:>> that is so exciting. I too have a pulmo dude, but I also see a Dr. of Chinese medicine, she is from Austria and lives in Boulder co. I take 2 different kinds of Chinese tinctures. One is for the respiratory and the other for liver. Remember everyone if your liver is functioning to its fullest alot of things fall apart. When I see her she too is really all about how I'm feeling. She feels that I can maintain where I'm at and hopefully some day get back some of my scared lungs. This is not for everyone but what do I have to loose, nothing. Because what she does for me mentally too is give me hope, where as the other doctors its like I'm sorry!! I'm I still scared that it won't work, but nothing else is working for me either, so I just have to be patient and hope that I will live for a long time> > I'm so happy for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep me up on your progress please, your the first one that I know who may do this alternative type of medicine.> > Gascoigne SD, 50 yrs old, Renaud's 2008, IPF 7/2009> > > > > > ________________________________> To: Breathe-Support ; pulmonaryfibrosis > Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 10:20:38 PM> Subject: FW: Glitches & Being a 'Work In Progress' Part 1> > > > WARNING…2> long POSTS coming….Ignore/Delete…. all those who hate such numbers!> Hi Air> Family…it’s probably about time I filled you in on my latest> Discoveries AND my lovely new Respiratory Physician…my former Dude has left> Lismore so I had to find a Newbie….my Respiratory Rehab Nurse Specialist> told me of a new guy visiting Lismore every week from Brisbane, who’s set> up a 2nd Lung Clinic here, in the last year & she’d been> getting good reports…soooooo I give him a GO!> WOW…I’ve> hit my JACKPOT with him…he’s been part of the main Brisbane Lung> Transplant Clinic but decided he wanted to go out on his own to be able to> offer a more Holistic approach to Lung Treatment..he’s Chinese Australian…..so> THAT makes sense! Suits me just fine!> I can TALK to> him…he’s had a lot of Big Teaching Hospital experience but> he’s not averse to listening to where I was at in my own journey. He> offers several ‘Pathways of Treatment & Management’…he> talks in terms of OPTIONS & how there is NO one solution & as yet no> successful, PROVEN cure so it depends on which Pathway his Patients decide they> want to take with his guidance & support…..From all my research & > reading this Forum I get the impression that he’s really up-to-date with> all the Trials & where it’s all at! > OMG was I> HEARING right!> So…he> reviews everything.. ASKS my reaction to the possibility of Lung Transplant.. we> go into HUGE discussion of THAT from a Medical, Cultural, Esoteric, Spiritual> perspective…he RESPECTS my views (I don’t want a Transplant ..if I> had he’d have pushed to get me into evaluation & onto the List ASAP> ‘cos I’m coming up to the Cut-off Age in OZ!)… & we move> on to DRUGS…> Same> scenario…….we’ll visit there again…he has some very> different ways of approaching Drug Treatment that MAY allow me to consider them> at a stage down the track. Instead of the ‘naughty school-girl response> (that I’ve had from other Res Phys) I get LISTENED to & a discussion> of various pros & cons & creative ways of approaching the whole thing!> He VALIDATED> my intelligence in researching everything & wasn’t at all> threatened.. he SAID he can have much better Management Plans with his> ‘switched ON’ patients…..> He also gave> me CREDIT for improved PFT outcomes since I’ve been putting in so much> effort into Exercise & Weight Loss…YES there is a DIRECT CONNECTION> between WEIGHT & PF outcomes. We CAN improve our Lung Function by losing> weight & getting Fitter…..he immediately noticed the Weight Loss when> he was reviewing my PFT’s from the last few years…… He asked> if it was intentional & was really interested in what I’d been doing.> He encouraged me to keep going but carefully given a few more complications> that have arisen (I’ll write about THAT in a separate Post!)> Except for my> GP none of the others had noticed let alone asked me anything! > Importantly,> he told me that it seemed to him that I’d never been fully & properly> evaluated, especially for Connective Tissue Disease (TRUE!) & > he’d have to get me up to Brisbane to do that……PF is a> Metropolitan Disease Management Scenario he said BUT he’d also be able to> see me on his Lismore visits for Support & Encouragement. He was HORRIFIED> that I was only trotting along once a Year to the former bloke!> So he’s> set GOALS & Desired Outcomes & we’re working towards that! > First my new> set of glitches have to be addressed ….on to Part 2 of the Work in> Progress Saga…if you’re still with me! HA!> See you next> POST..> GIO> > > > > > > > > So> > > > > > > in> Oz > > IPF:> Fibrotic NSIP/UIP ??> Reynauds' > May> 2007 > > > > > > ________________________________> > Express yourself with over 10,000 FREE Email Smileys - click here!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Yea we will see where I'm at on Feb 1-5 going to Denver to National Jewish for more tests, we will see what their Diagnosis will be. YES IT REFRESHING!!!!!! I know that most people are not into all that stuff, but I have not really ever been one for putting unnecessary stuff into me that wasn't from natural items, unless it was the last resort. I will let you know how things go for me in Denver, and with seeing my Dr. of Chinese medicine after 3 months. I go and see her every 3 months and I so look forward to that trip. Being in her presence just makes me feel better Gascoigne SD, 50 yrs old, Renaud's 2008, IPF 7/2009To: Breathe-Support Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 11:01:37 PMSubject: Re: FW: Glitches & Being a 'Work In Progress' Part 1 Hi ..yeah while this guy is a 'Regular' Specialist he's clearly not averse to me working with other modalities (acupuncture/ herbal medicine/ anti-oxident therapy..Refreshing !). It makes it so much easier to be upfront about things! I notice you too have Raynaud's... he said 40% of NSIP PF folk have Raynaud's while only 10% of UIP patients present with it! Cheers, ort (AT) yahoogroups (DOT) com, Gascoigne <michelle.gascoigne@ ...> wrote:>> that is so exciting. I too have a pulmo dude, but I also see a Dr. of Chinese medicine, she is from Austria and lives in Boulder co. I take 2 different kinds of Chinese tinctures. One is for the respiratory and the other for liver. Remember everyone if your liver is functioning to its fullest alot of things fall apart. When I see her she too is really all about how I'm feeling. She feels that I can maintain where I'm at and hopefully some day get back some of my scared lungs. This is not for everyone but what do I have to loose, nothing. Because what she does for me mentally too is give me hope, where as the other doctors its like I'm sorry!! I'm I still scared that it won't work, but nothing else is working for me either, so I just have to be patient and hope that I will live for a long time> > I'm so happy for you!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Keep me up on your progress please, your the first one that I know who may do this alternative type of medicine.> > Gascoigne SD, 50 yrs old, Renaud's 2008, IPF 7/2009> > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> From: Francis gina.francis3@ ...> To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com; pulmonaryfibrosis@ yahoogroups. com> Sent: Fri, January 22, 2010 10:20:38 PM> Subject: FW: Glitches & Being a 'Work In Progress' Part 1> > > > WARNING…2> long POSTS coming….Ignore/Delete…. all those who hate such numbers!> Hi Air> Family…it’s probably about time I filled you in on my latest> Discoveries AND my lovely new Respiratory Physician…my former Dude has left> Lismore so I had to find a Newbie….my Respiratory Rehab Nurse Specialist> told me of a new guy visiting Lismore every week from Brisbane, who’s set> up a 2nd Lung Clinic here, in the last year & she’d been> getting good reports…soooooo I give him a GO!> WOW…I’ve> hit my JACKPOT with him…he’s been part of the main Brisbane Lung> Transplant Clinic but decided he wanted to go out on his own to be able to> offer a more Holistic approach to Lung Treatment..he’s Chinese Australian…..so> THAT makes sense! Suits me just fine!> I can TALK to> him…he’s had a lot of Big Teaching Hospital experience but> he’s not averse to listening to where I was at in my own journey. He> offers several ‘Pathways of Treatment & Management’…he> talks in terms of OPTIONS & how there is NO one solution & as yet no> successful, PROVEN cure so it depends on which Pathway his Patients decide they> want to take with his guidance & support…..From all my research & > reading this Forum I get the impression that he’s really up-to-date with> all the Trials & where it’s all at! > OMG was I> HEARING right!> So…he> reviews everything.. ASKS my reaction to the possibility of Lung Transplant.. we> go into HUGE discussion of THAT from a Medical, Cultural, Esoteric, Spiritual> perspective…he RESPECTS my views (I don’t want a Transplant ..if I> had he’d have pushed to get me into evaluation & onto the List ASAP> ‘cos I’m coming up to the Cut-off Age in OZ!)… & we move> on to DRUGS…> Same> scenario…….we’ll visit there again…he has some very> different ways of approaching Drug Treatment that MAY allow me to consider them> at a stage down the track. Instead of the ‘naughty school-girl response> (that I’ve had from other Res Phys) I get LISTENED to & a discussion> of various pros & cons & creative ways of approaching the whole thing!> He VALIDATED> my intelligence in researching everything & wasn’t at all> threatened.. he SAID he can have much better Management Plans with his> ‘switched ON’ patients…..> He also gave> me CREDIT for improved PFT outcomes since I’ve been putting in so much> effort into Exercise & Weight Loss…YES there is a DIRECT CONNECTION> between WEIGHT & PF outcomes. We CAN improve our Lung Function by losing> weight & getting Fitter…..he immediately noticed the Weight Loss when> he was reviewing my PFT’s from the last few years…… He asked> if it was intentional & was really interested in what I’d been doing.> He encouraged me to keep going but carefully given a few more complications> that have arisen (I’ll write about THAT in a separate Post!)> Except for my> GP none of the others had noticed let alone asked me anything! > Importantly,> he told me that it seemed to him that I’d never been fully & properly> evaluated, especially for Connective Tissue Disease (TRUE!) & > he’d have to get me up to Brisbane to do that……PF is a> Metropolitan Disease Management Scenario he said BUT he’d also be able to> see me on his Lismore visits for Support & Encouragement. He was HORRIFIED> that I was only trotting along once a Year to the former bloke!> So he’s> set GOALS & Desired Outcomes & we’re working towards that! > First my new> set of glitches have to be addressed ….on to Part 2 of the Work in> Progress Saga…if you’re still with me! HA!> See you next> POST..> GIO> > > > > > > > > So> > > > > > > in> Oz > > IPF:> Fibrotic NSIP/UIP ??> Reynauds' > May> 2007 > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Express yourself with over 10,000 FREE Email Smileys - click here!> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 , My very prolific writer sister in OZ...Wow those two post had loads of information. How do you keep it all straight? You seem to have been lucky with the new docs. They will work together!! What a concept...many would be less eager to do that. My two main docs..GP and Pulmodude are OK with the sharing of information and have even spoken to each other when I needed them to do so. Anyway...hopefully yours will get it all figured out and you can have that sort of uneventful 2010 you were hoping for. Z fibriotic NSIP/05 Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower Francis wrote: WARNING…2 long POSTS coming….Ignore/Delete…. all those who hate such numbers! Hi Air Family…it’s probably about time I filled you in on my latest Discoveries AND my lovely new Respiratory Physician…my former Dude has left Lismore so I had to find a Newbie….my Respiratory Rehab Nurse Specialist told me of a new guy visiting Lismore every week from Brisbane, who’s set up a 2nd Lung Clinic here, in the last year & she’d been getting good reports…soooooo I give him a GO! WOW…I’ve hit my JACKPOT with him…he’s been part of the main Brisbane Lung Transplant Clinic but decided he wanted to go out on his own to be able to offer a more Holistic approach to Lung Treatment..he’s Chinese Australian…..so THAT makes sense! Suits me just fine! I can TALK to him…he’s had a lot of Big Teaching Hospital experience but he’s not averse to listening to where I was at in my own journey. He offers several ‘Pathways of Treatment & Management’…he talks in terms of OPTIONS & how there is NO one solution & as yet no successful, PROVEN cure so it depends on which Pathway his Patients decide they want to take with his guidance & support….From all my research & reading this Forum I get the impression that he’s really up-to-date with all the Trials & where it’s all at! OMG was I HEARING right! So…he reviews everything.. ASKS my reaction to the possibility of Lung Transplant..we go into HUGE discussion of THAT from a Medical, Cultural, Esoteric, Spiritual perspective…he RESPECTS my views (I don’t want a Transplant ..if I had he’d have pushed to get me into evaluation & onto the List ASAP ‘cos I’m coming up to the Cut-off Age in OZ!)… & we move on to DRUGS… Same scenario…….we’ll visit there again…he has some very different ways of approaching Drug Treatment that MAY allow me to consider them at a stage down the track. Instead of the ‘naughty school-girl response (that I’ve had from other Res Phys) I get LISTENED to & a discussion of various pros & cons & creative ways of approaching the whole thing! He VALIDATED my intelligence in researching everything & wasn’t at all threatened..he SAID he can have much better Management Plans with his ‘switched ON’ patients….. He also gave me CREDIT for improved PFT outcomes since I’ve been putting in so much effort into Exercise & Weight Loss…YES there is a DIRECT CONNECTION between WEIGHT & PF outcomes. We CAN improve our Lung Function by losing weight & getting Fitter…..he immediately noticed the Weight Loss when he was reviewing my PFT’s from the last few years…… He asked if it was intentional & was really interested in what I’d been doing. He encouraged me to keep going but carefully given a few more complications that have arisen (I’ll write about THAT in a separate Post!) Except for my GP none of the others had noticed let alone asked me anything! Importantly, he told me that it seemed to him that I’d never been fully & properly evaluated, especially for Connective Tissue Disease (TRUE!) & he’d have to get me up to Brisbane to do that……PF is a Metropolitan Disease Management Scenario he said BUT he’d also be able to see me on his Lismore visits for Support & Encouragement. He was HORRIFIED that I was only trotting along once a Year to the former bloke! So he’s set GOALS & Desired Outcomes & we’re working towards that! First my new set of glitches have to be addressed ….on to Part 2 of the Work in Progress Saga…if you’re still with me! HA! See you next POST.. GIO So in Oz IPF: Fibrotic NSIP/UIP ?? Reynauds' May 2007 Express yourself with over 10,000 FREE Email Smileys - click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 didn't read 's long posts yet as to Chinese medicine, my children really believe in it my daughter was trying to get pregnant, she got a chinese recipe of some concoction [it really looked gross in my opinion] and i have a granddaughter! was it the chinese medicine or just a coincidence, i will never know, but they believe in it and it worked for her Pink Joyce R (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: FW: Glitches & Being a 'Work In Progress' Part 1To: Breathe-Support Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 11:45 PM that is so exciting. I too have a pulmo dude, but I also see a Dr. of Chinese medicine, she is from Austria and lives in Boulder co. I take 2 different kinds of Chinese tinctures. One is for the respiratory and the other for liver. Remember everyone if your liver is functioning to its fullest alot of things fall apart. When I see her she too is really all about how I'm feeling. She feels that I can maintain where I'm at and hopefully some day get back some of my scared lungs. This is not for everyone but what do I have to loose, nothing. Because what she does for me mentally too is give me hope, where as the other doctors its like I'm sorry!! I'm I still scared that it won't work, but nothing else is working for me either, so I just have to be patient and hope that I will live for a long timeI'm so happy for you!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Keep me up on your progress please, your the first one that I know who may do this alternative type of medicine. Gascoigne SD, 50 yrs old, Renaud's 2008, IPF 7/2009 From: Francis <gina.francis3@ bigpond.com>To: Breathe-Support@ yahoogroups. com; pulmonaryfibrosis@ yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, January 22, 2010 10:20:38 PMSubject: FW: Glitches & Being a 'Work In Progress' Part 1 WARNING…2 long POSTS coming….Ignore/Delete…. all those who hate such numbers! Hi Air Family…it’s probably about time I filled you in on my latest Discoveries AND my lovely new Respiratory Physician…my former Dude has left Lismore so I had to find a Newbie….my Respiratory Rehab Nurse Specialist told me of a new guy visiting Lismore every week from Brisbane, who’s set up a 2nd Lung Clinic here, in the last year & she’d been getting good reports…soooooo I give him a GO! WOW…I’ve hit my JACKPOT with him…he’s been part of the main Brisbane Lung Transplant Clinic but decided he wanted to go out on his own to be able to offer a more Holistic approach to Lung Treatment..he’s Chinese Australian…...so THAT makes sense! Suits me just fine! I can TALK to him…he’s had a lot of Big Teaching Hospital experience but he’s not averse to listening to where I was at in my own journey. He offers several ‘Pathways of Treatment & Management’…he talks in terms of OPTIONS & how there is NO one solution & as yet no successful, PROVEN cure so it depends on which Pathway his Patients decide they want to take with his guidance & support….From all my research & reading this Forum I get the impression that he’s really up-to-date with all the Trials & where it’s all at! OMG was I HEARING right! So…he reviews everything.. ASKS my reaction to the possibility of Lung Transplant.. we go into HUGE discussion of THAT from a Medical, Cultural, Esoteric, Spiritual perspective…he RESPECTS my views (I don’t want a Transplant ..if I had he’d have pushed to get me into evaluation & onto the List ASAP ‘cos I’m coming up to the Cut-off Age in OZ!)… & we move on to DRUGS… Same scenario…….we’ll visit there again…he has some very different ways of approaching Drug Treatment that MAY allow me to consider them at a stage down the track. Instead of the ‘naughty school-girl response (that I’ve had from other Res Phys) I get LISTENED to & a discussion of various pros & cons & creative ways of approaching the whole thing! He VALIDATED my intelligence in researching everything & wasn’t at all threatened.. he SAID he can have much better Management Plans with his ‘switched ON’ patients….. He also gave me CREDIT for improved PFT outcomes since I’ve been putting in so much effort into Exercise & Weight Loss…YES there is a DIRECT CONNECTION between WEIGHT & PF outcomes. We CAN improve our Lung Function by losing weight & getting Fitter…..he immediately noticed the Weight Loss when he was reviewing my PFT’s from the last few years…… He asked if it was intentional & was really interested in what I’d been doing. He encouraged me to keep going but carefully given a few more complications that have arisen (I’ll write about THAT in a separate Post!) Except for my GP none of the others had noticed let alone asked me anything! Importantly, he told me that it seemed to him that I’d never been fully & properly evaluated, especially for Connective Tissue Disease (TRUE!) & he’d have to get me up to Brisbane to do that……PF is a Metropolitan Disease Management Scenario he said BUT he’d also be able to see me on his Lismore visits for Support & Encouragement. He was HORRIFIED that I was only trotting along once a Year to the former bloke! So he’s set GOALS & Desired Outcomes & we’re working towards that! First my new set of glitches have to be addressed ….on to Part 2 of the Work in Progress Saga…if you’re still with me! HA! See you next POST.. GIO So in Oz IPF: Fibrotic NSIP/UIP ??Reynauds' May 2007 Express yourself with over 10,000 FREE Email Smileys - click here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Oh this is the first post I have read today and am crying already I am sooooo happy for you. I know your over the moon to have such a good caring Doc.Post actually wasn't long enough. I wanna hear more.. Love ya, TELL ALL. Love & PrayersPeggyIPF, 2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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