Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 If it's fermented it generally means the sugar is broken down, so my guess is that it's OK, but let's wait for the final word from some more experienced SCD ers. > > My naturopath wants me on vitamin C to help with bleeding. > > I pretty much know by now what to look for in terms of " other ingredients " that are added or that make up the capsule. But I was reading in Wikipedia about how Vitamin c is manufactured....and they make it from GLUCOSE. Is this okay? What brands/forms of C do you guys take? > > See below for a snippet... > > " Vitamin C is produced from glucose by two main routes. The Reichstein process, developed in the 1930s, uses a single pre-fermentation followed by a purely chemical route. The modern two-step fermentation process, originally developed in China in the 1960s, uses additional fermentation to replace part of the later chemical stages. Both processes yield approximately 60% vitamin C from the glucose feed.[157] > > Research is underway at the ish Crop Research Institute in the interest of creating a strain of yeast that can synthesise vitamin C in a single fermentation step from galactose, a technology expected to reduce manufacturing costs considerably.[20] " > > What do you think? Safe, right? > > Caroline > SCD since 1/7/10 > UC-->Crohn's since 1998 > Remicade since 2008 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Caroline, What kind of bleeding? I have taken a buffered VitC from my naturopath...PERQUE brand. It doesn't bother me like other brands tend to. ) > > My naturopath wants me on vitamin C to help with bleeding. > > I pretty much know by now what to look for in terms of " other ingredients " that are added or that make up the capsule. But I was reading in Wikipedia about how Vitamin c is manufactured....and they make it from GLUCOSE. Is this okay? What brands/forms of C do you guys take? > > See below for a snippet... > > " Vitamin C is produced from glucose by two main routes. The Reichstein process, developed in the 1930s, uses a single pre-fermentation followed by a purely chemical route. The modern two-step fermentation process, originally developed in China in the 1960s, uses additional fermentation to replace part of the later chemical stages. Both processes yield approximately 60% vitamin C from the glucose feed.[157] > > Research is underway at the ish Crop Research Institute in the interest of creating a strain of yeast that can synthesise vitamin C in a single fermentation step from galactose, a technology expected to reduce manufacturing costs considerably.[20] " > > What do you think? Safe, right? > > Caroline > SCD since 1/7/10 > UC-->Crohn's since 1998 > Remicade since 2008 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 , Bleeding in my stool. It's been increased for about 6 weeks or so. I don't know if it's a flare due to stress or a flare due to the infamous 9-month die-off flare. I started some mesalamine suppositories to try to nip it in the bud but I'm looking for other things as well. What do you take the C for? Caroline > > > > My naturopath wants me on vitamin C to help with bleeding. > > > > I pretty much know by now what to look for in terms of " other ingredients " that are added or that make up the capsule. But I was reading in Wikipedia about how Vitamin c is manufactured....and they make it from GLUCOSE. Is this okay? What brands/forms of C do you guys take? > > > > See below for a snippet... > > > > " Vitamin C is produced from glucose by two main routes. The Reichstein process, developed in the 1930s, uses a single pre-fermentation followed by a purely chemical route. The modern two-step fermentation process, originally developed in China in the 1960s, uses additional fermentation to replace part of the later chemical stages. Both processes yield approximately 60% vitamin C from the glucose feed.[157] > > > > Research is underway at the ish Crop Research Institute in the interest of creating a strain of yeast that can synthesise vitamin C in a single fermentation step from galactose, a technology expected to reduce manufacturing costs considerably.[20] " > > > > What do you think? Safe, right? > > > > Caroline > > SCD since 1/7/10 > > UC-->Crohn's since 1998 > > Remicade since 2008 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Caroline, I am not taking C right now because I am also experiencing some blood. I guess I figured the C would make it worse because it stimulates the immune system. Strange that I wold give into this, though, since I totally believe autoimmune problems are caused by a weak/confused immune system and DO plan to treat with antioxidants when i come out of this mini " flare " myself. > > , What do you take the C for? > > Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 At 07:34 PM 9/21/2010, you wrote: What do you think? Safe, right? Most Vitamin C is safe to consume, although large quantities can cause diarrhea. Mega-doses are often given to what's called " bowel tolerance. " In other words, a dose to the point that it causes diarrhea, and then back done to the highest dose that does not. Glucose is technically a monosaccharide, and the fermentation may take care of the parts which are not. (Commercial glucose/dextrose is not always all monosaccharide). If you tend toward sensitivity in this area, it may be worthwhile to check out the source of the Vitamin C. Much Vitamin C is derived from corn, and while the majority of us tolerate this just fine (the process having gotten rid of the part of the grain we have a problem with, aka the starch), some very sensitive people don't handle even that, and must seek out a non-corn-derived Vitamin C. I did know a lady who had always had trouble with Vitamin C supplements, even though her doctor wanted her to take it, and until she found out about much C being derived from corn (to which she had a particular sensitivity), and found a non-corn Vitamin C, she couldn't handle it. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 OK, well about Rutin? The naturopath wants me on a Vitamin C with Rutin (a certain type of bioflavonoid). Wiki says: " Rutin, also called rutoside, quercetin-3-rutinoside and sophorin, is a citrus flavonoid glycoside found in buckwheat,[1] the leaves and petioles of Rheum species, and asparagus. Rutin is also found in the fruit of the Fava D'anta tree (from Brazil), fruits and fruit rinds (especially citrus fruits (orange, grapefruit, lemon, lime)) and berries such as mulberry and cranberries. Its name comes from the name of Ruta graveolens, a plant that also contains rutin. It is sometimes referred to as Vitamin P, although not strictly a vitamin.[2] Rutin is the glycoside between the flavonol quercetin and the disaccharide rutinose. In Fava d'anta, the synthetis is done via a rutin synthase activity.[3] Rutin can be created by bonding a disaccharide onto the hydroxyl group of Quercetin. " I called the company to see if theirs was created or derived from a plant. Theirs is derived from buckwheat!!! Does this mean that it is illegal? Caroline > >What do you think? Safe, right? > > Most Vitamin C is safe to consume, although large > quantities can cause diarrhea. Mega-doses are > often given to what's called " bowel tolerance. " > In other words, a dose to the point that it > causes diarrhea, and then back done to the highest dose that does not. > > Glucose is technically a monosaccharide, and the > fermentation may take care of the parts which are > not. (Commercial glucose/dextrose is not always all monosaccharide). > > If you tend toward sensitivity in this area, it > may be worthwhile to check out the source of the > Vitamin C. Much Vitamin C is derived from corn, > and while the majority of us tolerate this just > fine (the process having gotten rid of the part > of the grain we have a problem with, aka the > starch), some very sensitive people don't handle > even that, and must seek out a non-corn-derived > Vitamin C. I did know a lady who had always had > trouble with Vitamin C supplements, even though > her doctor wanted her to take it, and until she > found out about much C being derived from corn > (to which she had a particular sensitivity), and > found a non-corn Vitamin C, she couldn't handle it. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Babette the Foundling Beagle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 At 02:07 PM 9/22/2010, you wrote: OK, well about Rutin? The naturopath wants me on a Vitamin C with Rutin (a certain type of bioflavonoid). Rutin is made up of rutinose - a disaccharide - and quercetin, which is a legal bioflavinoid. So, the disaccharide component of Rutin makes it illegal. (This courtesy of a saved note from Krivel.) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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