Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Hi Connie, Quickest answer (I'm off to a 2 day workshop in a few minutes): check out the MLD section of the geocities site at http://www.geocities.com/orthognathicinfo/ Yes, it works. > I noticed a couple of posts mentioning this. What is it? Does it > really help restore feeling? > > Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2005 Report Share Posted September 10, 2005 Hi Diane, That's great that your massage therapist is training in MLD (actually I just read about another program called LDT which is Lymph Drainage Therapy, through the Upledger Institute - who pioneered the cranial-sacral therapy - so there are at least 2 different schools now). One of the nice things about having a therapist schooled in different therapies is that you don't have to make separate appointments, and they are also more familiar with your body. Hope it works out for you! > I asked my massage therapist about MLD therapy at my last massage and found > she had recently begun training in MLD. Lucky for me! Thanks to the advice > of and Sara, I plan to use MLD as part of my recovery process. > > I'm due for surgery late this fall (yikes!) and will let everyone know how > MLD works for me. > > > > Diane, Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 Connie, Not sure if any one replied to this post yet. MLD is manual lymphatic drainage massage. For a more detailed description of what it involves with a diagram of the body parts it acts on see: http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Bodywork/eidelson71_p.ht m Basically MLD works on your lymphatic drainage system. You may have noticed bruising or yellowing of the area underneath your chin post- op. That's your lymphatic system trying to get the excess liquids from the swelling post-surgery out of your system. MLD aids this process by facilitating the drainage manually and thus decreasing swelling and bruising. I had MLD pre-surgery and quite a few post-surgery and it really helped with my swelling. Also thanks to doing it before hand I was able to avoid any swelling (I also took arnica). Some people find the MLD works for them others don't see a difference. I use MLD on a regular basis to help circulation in my legs so knew that it worked for me. To find out whether it's the thing for you I would read up a little more on it and try to meet with an MLD therapist whom you can ask questions to, maybe even try out one massage to see how you like it. Hope this helps. Sara > I noticed a couple of posts mentioning this. What is it? Does it > really help restore feeling? > > Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 You can also look up " Vodder School, " which is where some of these treatments originated. And I think they're becoming increasingly useful and used by women who have lost lymph nodes to breast surgery. As I understand it, the arm of a woman who has had one or more lymph node(s) surgically removed is more likely to swell. Therapists are now using MLD to help treat that -- one of the physical therapists in our local hospital took the training just for that purpose. Cammie > > I noticed a couple of posts mentioning this. What is it? Does it > > really help restore feeling? > > > > Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2005 Report Share Posted September 12, 2005 MLD questions for anyone who knows: I've recently become acquainted with a girl who is an aesthetician. (The girlfriend of my husband's friend.) She recommended possibly having some massage done on my face after surgery, and when I mentioned MLD she got all excited and began talking about it, though we were interrupted and the conversation was lost. What I'm wondering is if an aesthetician is a qualified person to do MLD? I got the impression that she knew a lot about it, but haven't had the chance to see her again to know if *she* does it. I wouldn't mind giving it a shot, but I certainly don't want to trust my healing face to just anyone. I also want to recommend it to my father-in-law, who had some cancerous lymph glands removed from his pelvic area last year and now has permanent swelling in his leg. Is this type of thing ever covered by insurance? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 I would check with the aesthetician that she is certified in MLD technique e.g Vodder school or any other recognized school of lymphatic tissue massages. I have had an aesthetician perform MLD on me in the past and found her to be good but she had also taken sevral courses in the technique and had certificates hanging around her office. i wouldn't let someone who " dabbles " in MLD touch me at any time, much less post-op. I would also ask her if she has experience of treating cancer patients or people who have had a face lift who often use MLD massages to decrease recovery time. As for your father-in-law, I think that in the US some insurance companies do cover massage therapy for certain cancers and I would think that the lymphatic nodes cancer falls in this category. Definitely worth checking out! Sara > MLD questions for anyone who knows: > > I've recently become acquainted with a girl who is an aesthetician. > (The girlfriend of my husband's friend.) She recommended possibly > having some massage done on my face after surgery, and when I > mentioned MLD she got all excited and began talking about it, though > we were interrupted and the conversation was lost. > > What I'm wondering is if an aesthetician is a qualified person to do > MLD? I got the impression that she knew a lot about it, but haven't > had the chance to see her again to know if *she* does it. I wouldn't > mind giving it a shot, but I certainly don't want to trust my healing > face to just anyone. > > I also want to recommend it to my father-in-law, who had some > cancerous lymph glands removed from his pelvic area last year and now > has permanent swelling in his leg. Is this type of thing ever covered > by insurance? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Hi , You should ask where they studied, was it Vodder technique (reputable school, originators of technique). You can always ask about the course itself too, to get a feel, how long was it, are they certified in this technique. Sometimes people go to weekend courses that are not very long and start working without being certified (for example, yoga teachers are sometimes not certified, or do very little training). Many spas have therapists/technicians who have received little training. There's not a lot of regulation in some areas, although this is changing. Ask how long they have been practicing MLD and how many clients they see for this therapy in a week. If it's infrequent, they are perhaps not the right person. An aesthetician is not the same thing as a therapist, as far as I know. My MLD therapy was covered by insurance because it was performed by a physiotherapist (for which I should have had a doctor's referral, according to my insurance policy, but they paid anyway). It's important WHO does the therapy for insurance purposes. Massage therapy performed by a non-registered massage therapist is not covered by insurance. I would go very ul with massage therapy on someone who has cancer. This person should discuss it with their physician or oncologist before proceeding. Hope that helps, > MLD questions for anyone who knows: > > I've recently become acquainted with a girl who is an aesthetician. > (The girlfriend of my husband's friend.) She recommended possibly > having some massage done on my face after surgery, and when I > mentioned MLD she got all excited and began talking about it, though > we were interrupted and the conversation was lost. > > What I'm wondering is if an aesthetician is a qualified person to do > MLD? I got the impression that she knew a lot about it, but haven't > had the chance to see her again to know if *she* does it. I wouldn't > mind giving it a shot, but I certainly don't want to trust my healing > face to just anyone. > > I also want to recommend it to my father-in-law, who had some > cancerous lymph glands removed from his pelvic area last year and now > has permanent swelling in his leg. Is this type of thing ever covered > by insurance? > > Thanks! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Sorry - typo - last post should have read " I would go CAREFUL with massage therapy for anyone who has cancer " . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 13, 2005 Report Share Posted September 13, 2005 Thanks for your reply. I don't think she is certified, and I don't think she's been at her job very long. Nice enough girl, but she's a bit younger than me (I'm 28) and she seems pretty new at all this. I'll see what other options there are in town. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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