Hi Bob!

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

Yep, we were surgery buddies your first time around. I had my surgery

the day after you.... That feels like so long ago.... I wish it was

as far in the past for you as it is for me. What surgery did you

have originally? and did they repeat that same surgery the second

time? I just can't believe you are going through this. What does your

family say? What does your wife think?

In comparison to what you've been through, my recovery has been

nothing.... I am a tad unhappy about the canted teeth however. I'm

starting to have bad dreams about it! I hate those dental

dreams/nightmares! But canted teeth are nothing compared to facing

this surgery all over again and again.

China tea cups banging together sounds like a nightmare in itself. I

am glad you at least have that splint to help in the meantime. I am

still curious about the movement being done by ortho... he can't give

you some bands to start the movement? 5ml isn't a huge distance

ultimately. It wouldn't happen in a month, but I would think it could

be done. Bands from your upper molars to lower K-9s would help pull

those lower teeth in! Maybe you could consult with another ortho for

their opinion? ... Given the time, ortho can do a lot and move a lot!

I think I would prefer ortho to more surgery.... You'd think it would

be worth it to at least try first... Maybe your ortho is lazy? My

first ortho was a quack job which is why I'm paying for braces a

second time and having things finally, but slowly, fixed properly.

Uhg. I hate the just because somebody has Dr. next to their name, it

doesn't tell you if they were the last in their class or what their

work ethic is, etc. Not all Dr's are created equal.... I guess you

need to wait to hear from your surgeon regarding bone placement in

contrast to where the teeth are. I second Cammie's suggestion to seek

advice/opinions outside of this immediate circle of doctors that so

far have been failing you miserably and and causing you undue pain

and grief. I can certainly understand why you are feeling so unsure

about the surgeon now. I had a hard enough time trusting my surgeon

the first time around! Has the surgeon X-rayed your jaw recently? Let

us know when you hear from your surgeon and keep us posted. Everyone

is cheering for you!

Lastly, on bahalf of this group, I am ordering you to ENJOY Vegas and

the time with your wife! I hope you and she have a really great time,

goodness knows you deserve it!

Keep in touch,

Katja

> > > I've been reading and cheering you all on in silence for the

> past

> > > couple months since I last posted....I had my 2nd surgery may

> > 23 /05 a

> > > result of a total relapse of my 1st surgery march

> > 8/05....mandibular

> > > osteotomy setback 5mm and geino forward 5 to balance...this

all

> a

> > > result of a dental disaster (long story /short) I have a class

3

> > > malloclusion I did not even know what that meant,(I dont even

> know

> > how

> > > to spell it) I was 45 at the time....My teeth caused me No

> problems

> > at

> > > all , they were shifting around a bit.....did'nt look that

great

> > but

> > > did'nt look that bad either......He said instead of me having

my

> > face

> > > rearranged (Surgery) he would create an " end to end " bite , by

> > > crowning all my teeth and having them meet " head on " to

> compensate

> > for

> > > the class 3 malloclusion.....I did'nt know that that would

bring

> my

> > > good life, to a grinding halt!...and obvious he was'nt aware

> > > either......

> > > Feb 7 , when they booked my surgery for March, My wife and I

and

> > > freinds of ours booked a 10 dayer for vegas sept25/05 to

> celebrate

> > the

> > > end of a nightmare,...I KNEW Already before I saw the ortho

> > yesterday,

> > > my teeth had returned to colliding head on....and I am know

> wearing

> > an

> > > acrylic splint 24/7 till I hear from the surgeon again..........

> > > Has any one out there had 3 surgerys on the lower, and is that

> even

> > > possible...Why would it relapse twice???/ I'm full of plates

> wires

> > and

> > > screws, 2times.. Right Now I don't even know if I should laugh

or

> > > cry....done both now, I'm just numb ,like my lip/gums and

> chin......

> > >

> > > thanks for listening

> > > bob