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What type Testosterone....gel or injections? Have you had your T levels

measured?

If you are on gel, particularly AndroGel...not everyone absorbs well. You

should have felt some improvement after three months.

I would suggest you have T measured.

Good luck,

OR eon

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The first time I used TRT I got an injection and it started working

in about a week. Then I switched to 5g Androgel and it didn't

work. My total testosterone was 542 with Androgel. I stopped

taking Androgel and a few months later the symptoms got much worse

(even though another T test said my total was 501) so I restarted

TRT with 300mg cypionate injections for the first 2 months and then

I switched again to Androgel and Im taking 5g a day, sometimes 10g

because I got some packets left over from before.

What confuses me is that the injections worked rapidly the first

time and the second time they did nothing.

> What type Testosterone....gel or injections? Have you had your T

levels

> measured?

> If you are on gel, particularly AndroGel...not everyone absorbs

well. You

> should have felt some improvement after three months.

>

> I would suggest you have T measured.

>

> Good luck,

>

> OR eon

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I have been on the patch for almost three months, and I feel the same

way you do. It was particulary bad after the first month.

Depressed, no sex drive, no erections, lose of muscle mass, testiles

shrinking up and painful.

I started taking zinc and Chrysin like Dr Shippen says to and it

helped a little but not that much.

I have been struggling to get my endo to re evaluate my treatment

with no luck, so I made an appointment with another endo. Now I have

to wait my turn to get in to see her.

Let us know how your doing

SB

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Hi mikcd,

You need to go to your endo and get your levels checked. You may need

a higher dose or different method of testosterone replacement that

suits your body.

> I've been on TRT for 3 months and my symptoms have become worse.

> Does this mean that TRT failed or do I have to wait longer?

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  • 2 years later...

Whilst its not very helpful the simle is IT DEPENDS!

Depends on why the problem in the first place, diet all sorts. I beleive my

sons issues were induced by toxic heavy metals, I don;t expect his yeast

issues to be gone until the metals are - we have been at this 4 years so

far.............

You should see behavioural and physical improvements with yeast and enzyme

treatments over time - have you see any yet?

Mandi in UK

wrote this message earlier this week and no response. I would

like to know how long do you do the enzymes and probiotics to fight

the yeast....3 months, 6 months, forever??

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> I wrote this message earlier this week and no response. I would

> like to know how long do you do the enzymes and probiotics to fight

> the yeast....3 months, 6 months, forever??

It depends on how entrenched the yeast is, what your child eats, and

how much metal is in his body. For many kids, you can't entirely

control the yeast until the diet is " clean " of sugars and most carbs,

and/or you chelate to remove the metals.

Depending on what yeast killer you use and how bad the yeast is, it

can take anywhere from a week to over 6 months to get rid of it. But

then it will just come back if you don't have a maintenance protocol.

Most people use probiotics as maintenance.

Dana

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In a message dated 25/02/2007 14:29:30 GMT Standard Time,

Ladyshrink111@... writes:

Is different for all kids, mostly by 5-7 rounds completed, but for us was

the third day of the first round, although I'm certain it wasn't due to

excreting any significant amount of metals (how could it be?) but more the

improvement was probably due to the cysteine in the chelators.

I would be highly suspicious if someone doesn't see anything by 10 rounds.

>>took us 20 to see anything good, glad I didn;t give up too early

Mandi in UK

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Is different for all kids, mostly by 5-7 rounds completed, but for us was the

third day of the first round, although I'm certain it wasn't due to excreting

any significant amount of metals (how could it be?) but more the improvement was

probably due to the cysteine in the chelators.

I would be highly suspicious if someone doesn't see anything by 10 rounds.

[ ] How long?

When have you all seen gains after beginning chelation?

Curious....

A.

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Don't pick lemons.

See all the new 2007 cars at Autos.

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Our son was diagosed as severely autistic at 6 years old. He was

hyperlexic but could not follow simple verbal commands. He had

numerous temper tantrums. Most of what he said was scripting. He

couln't stand being with a group of people without keeping his hands

over his ears.

is now 11. He now has lost his hyperlexia, but understands what

he reads. He is very social, although what he says is not always

appropriate. He is doing the aBeka school curriculum at grade level

with mostly 'A' work. He still stims and perseverates at times. He

brings a smile to my face when he is mischievous, because I feel that

is the normal little boy trying to appear.

We have finished 116 rounds now, and I see a little more progress

with each round. He still isn't normal, but he still meets the

counting rules. I am so thankful for Andy and this protocol, because

they have given me hope when noone else could. Perhaps, we as

parents need to enjoy our children as they are and patiently watch

them evolve.

Warm regards,

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Thank you, , for sharing your wonderful story.

Rene

> We have finished 116 rounds now, and I see a little more progress

> with each round. He still isn't normal, but he still meets the

> counting rules. I am so thankful for Andy and this protocol, because

> they have given me hope when noone else could. Perhaps, we as

> parents need to enjoy our children as they are and patiently watch

> them evolve.

>

> Warm regards,

>

>

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Wow, , this is great!

> We have finished 116 rounds now, and I see a little more progress

> with each round. He still isn't normal, but he still meets the

> counting rules. I am so thankful for Andy and this protocol, because

> they have given me hope when noone else could. Perhaps, we as

> parents need to enjoy our children as they are and patiently watch

> them evolve.

>

> Warm regards,

>

>

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> I was diagnosed with M.S. 10 years ago. I have only taken natural

vitamins & herbs. No copaxone or avonex. The side effects of these

sounded worse than what I was experiencing. I have just gone back to

my neurologist after 10 years and printed off information about LDN

and I believe she is going to perscribe this for me. I need to know

where & how to get a perscription filled & How Long before seeing

results? Expecting & excited about starting this.

>

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H,

Read thoroughly the LDN website at www.ldninfo.org and if you like,

Aletha can email you a welcome packet with all sorts of links to

read. LDN's main purpose is to halt disease progression,

approximately 2/3 of people who go on LDN might see some symptom

improvement, if you get symptom improvement on LDN then consider that

an added plus. Give LDN 9 months to a year trial to really start

halting disease progression.

Try using one of the relable compounding pharmacies listed on the LDN

website or give one of them a call and ask questions.

/Bren, LDN user 4 yrs for PRMS.

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No you need to know where your levels are at with the does your taking. If your

doing .25 mgs every 3 days and your levels come back at say 28 you need to do

the .25 mgs every 2 days it's best to be at 20 pg/ml. If your levels come back

below 20 and you have good hard night time and morning wood keep on the dose you

taking. But if your lowre and have no wood you need to stop taking it until

wood comes back then that day go back on it but do less.

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Phil

> From: Kipp Kruse <kckruse@...>

> Subject: how long?

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> Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:59 PM

> should I be off armidex before I get

> my E2 tested to get an accurate measurement of my true E2

> reading on my current testosterone dosage without taking

> armidex?

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> 48 hours enough?  longer????

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> thanks

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My son is 6 months old today, he has had his helmet a little over a week now.

How long would any of you guess he might have to wear it? They said anywhere

from 8 weeks to 6 months. I hope it's not 6 months, but if it is, it is. I

know a baby that got his at 6 mths and he graduated at 8 mths, i hope that is us

too.

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