new to this

[Guest guest]

After lo these many years of research and reading (5 to be exact), the information suggests that the c-toma itself is not congenital but the formation of the body parts which can lead to c-toma is. For example, I have had ear problems all my life because of poor eustachian tubes but no c-toma. My son, also with eustachian tube problems, developed c-toma.

Re: New to this

Thanks for all the replies! I didn't think anyone would read through

the novella I came up with! The doc had Marine Corps training.

Whether he was a doc in the Corps I have no idea, he just has a lot

of certificates from the Corps on his wall. The tattoo ink is

plausible in older inks but mine are newer (within the last 8 years)

& most good artists will not use inks with metal bits in them. I had

heard of this before I started getting tattoos. I know what kind of

ink they are using on me before they do it. But thanks for the heads

up on that! From what I've researched cholesteatomas can be

congenital or aquired. Doc said that the size, the kind of issues

I've had with the whole ear/nose/throat plumbing system since birth,

the fact that my tonsils had to be taken out because they were

blocking my eustachian tubes pretty much guarantees they are

congential. And my mum had military overseas shots during her first

month or so of being pregnant with me (she didn't know she was

pregnant) & I think I read somewhere that one of those shots has been

linked to poor developement of the areas I have problems with.

(Although that could have just been us telling stories to one

another. We like to make up cockamany reasons why things happen. It

was probably us making things up so no one take my word on that.)

After posting, I went to my insurance website & found listings for

Otologists. I had no idea there were such things, just ENT docs. An

ENT doc took out my tonsils so I thought they were supposed to do all

the surgeries. I'm going to try one of them. Unfortunately the

diagnosing ENT is also registered as an Otologist & in the same

office. I hope he doesn't recognize me or the one I see refers me

back to him. So I've got to call to make the appointment. Thanks

for all the recommendations!

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[Guest guest]

Semantics & all, but if the body parts aren't working properly from birth because of poor development in the womb, it'd be a congenital problem, neh? My e-tubes were blocked by my tonsils for many years. I don't remember from itty childhood, but preteen years & such my tonsils were always the size of golf balls. Too bad when I got the tonsils taken out the e-tubes didn't suck the tumor down! What kind of issues do you have with your e-tubes? How about your son's e-tube problems? What has his experience been like having the c-toma?

--------- Re: New to this

Thanks for all the replies! I didn't think anyone would read through the novella I came up with! The doc had Marine Corps training. Whether he was a doc in the Corps I have no idea, he just has a lot of certificates from the Corps on his wall. The tattoo ink is plausible in older inks but mine are newer (within the last 8 years) & most good artists will not use inks with metal bits in them. I had heard of this before I started getting tattoos. I know what kind of ink they are using on me before they do it. But thanks for the heads up on that! From what I've researched cholesteatomas can be congenital or aquired. Doc said that the size, the kind of issues I've had with the whole ear/nose/throat plumbing system since birth, the fact that my tonsils had to be taken out because they were blocking my eustachian tubes pretty much guarantees they are congential. And my mum had military overseas shots during her first month o

r so of being pregnant with me (she didn't know she was pregnant) & I think I read somewhere that one of those shots has been linked to poor developement of the areas I have problems with. (Although that could have just been us telling stories to one another. We like to make up cockamany reasons why things happen. It was probably us making things up so no one take my word on that.) After posting, I went to my insurance website & found listings for Otologists. I had no idea there were such things, just ENT docs. An ENT doc took out my tonsils so I thought they were supposed to do all the surgeries. I'm going to try one of them. Unfortunately the diagnosing ENT is also registered as an Otologist & in the same office. I hope he doesn't recognize me or the one I see refers me back to him. So I've got to call to make the appointment. Thanks for all the recommendations!

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[Guest guest]

from what I have read and from what I have learned from our doctor, there are two types of Cholesteatomas. Congenital and acquired.

Acquired means that there is usually some sort of dedeformity with your ear, tubes, inner ear, ect. Most of the time these can fully be taken out as they come out in one clump but they are prone to grow back because the deformity in the ear is not always able to be taken care of, hence the regrowth.

Congenital means that there was something in the ear from before you were born (sort of like a grain of sand makes a pearl) that grows with you and you are able to discover when it becomes big enough to make trouble with hearing or cause other problems. These are harder to take out because they often peel like an onion and break away. This type usually only comes back if a grain of it is left in the ear and it regrows.

I am by NO means an expert, but the explanation our doc gave us when we were first in there about a year ago for my son made sense to me...

Joycelyn

[Guest guest]

My issues have been a lifetime of ear infections, even occasionally at the age of 55, Eardrum bursting when flying, ear fullness and pain and countless visits to an ENT. My son has had 5 surgeries. First two to remove c-toma by ENT and rebuild eardrum. 2 more by Otologists to implant prosthesis and rebuild eardrum in Nashville. Last one by Otologist at U of Fl. to again rebuild eardrum and implant another prosthesis. He lost all hearing bones initially except stapes footplate. All the docs say the eardrum thing is poor e-tubes. He's now 20 and makes his own decisions about surgery. He's weary now (so am I) and says no more. He has no improvement in his hearing and at the last look there was a small pin size hole in the eardrum. He always asks the doc (since teaching hospitals tend to keep up with the latest developments) if there is anything new being developed for the e-tubes.

Re: Re: New to this

Semantics & all, but if the body parts aren't working properly from birth because of poor development in the womb, it'd be a congenital problem, neh? My e-tubes were blocked by my tonsils for many years. I don't remember from itty childhood, but preteen years & such my tonsils were always the size of golf balls. Too bad when I got the tonsils taken out the e-tubes didn't suck the tumor down! What kind of issues do you have with your e-tubes? How about your son's e-tube problems? What has his experience been like having the c-toma?

--------- Re: New to this

Thanks for all the replies! I didn't think anyone would read through

the novella I came up with! The doc had Marine Corps training.

Whether he was a doc in the Corps I have no idea, he just has a lot

of certificates from the Corps on his wall. The tattoo ink is

plausible in older inks but mine are newer (within the last 8 years)

& most good artists will not use inks with metal bits in them. I had

heard of this before I started getting tattoos. I know what kind of

ink they are using on me before they do it. But thanks for the heads

up on that! From what I've researched cholesteatomas can be

congenital or aquired. Doc said that the size, the kind of issues

I've had with the whole ear/nose/throat plumbing system since birth,

the fact that my tonsils had to be taken out because they were

blocking my eustachian tubes pretty much guarantees they are

congential. And my mum had military overseas shots during her first

month o

r so of being pregnant with me (she didn't know she was

pregnant) & I think I read somewhere that one of those shots has been

linked to poor developement of the areas I have problems with.

(Although that could have just been us telling stories to one

another. We like to make up cockamany reasons why things happen. It

was probably us making things up so no one take my word on that.)

After posting, I went to my insurance website & found listings for

Otologists. I had no idea there were such things, just ENT docs. An

ENT doc took out my tonsils so I thought they were supposed to do all

the surgeries. I'm going to try one of them. Unfortunately the

diagnosing ENT is also registered as an Otologist & in the same

office. I hope he doesn't recognize me or the one I see refers me

back to him. So I've got to call to make the appointment. Thanks

for all the recommendations!

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[Guest guest]

Hi " new to this " ,

My son has just had surgery, so I haven't checked this site in a

month+. It looks like many people have resonded, but I wanted to

comment on the Q-tip question and itching. I was having EXTREME

itching in my left ear, and with a son who's had 4 C'tomas, I was

most concerned.

I saw our ENT and he said I had an " addiction " to Q tips. The inside

of my ear was so dry from using them that what felt like " water

draining from my ear, " was actually my oil glands producing extra oil

to moisturize the dry skin on my inner ear.

He gave me some cortizone/antibiotic drops to use one week and said

to STOP using Q-tips. He said it would itch like crazy until that

dry skin healed, but would be much better in 1-2 weeks. It did itch

like crazy and was better in about 1.5 weeks.

With a c'toma, your itching may be coming from a totally different

reason, but wanted to mention my situation. Although my son has

C'toma, I have very few ear problems, only pressure when it's very

hot and humid in Mississippi.

I'd certainly consult with your physician, but Qtip use may be

causing or at least contributing to the extreme itching.

Best of Luck with your surgery. Oh yeah, after 6 surgeries, my son's

scar is minimal.

[Guest guest]

, I had a biopsy last December, there was nothing to it. I don't

know if all doctors put you to sleep for it, mine did. My side was

soar for a couple days but thats all.

>

> well i am fairly new to all this and seem to be havein a hard time

> dealing with it all.it is very overwelming........my biggest fear is

> the whole biopsy thing.....and to make it worse i cant find a support

> group in dallas that the pepole arent all poor me

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ...just wanted to add my 2 cents worth....The biopsy was NO BIG DEAL.

When I

have to do it again, it won't bother me a bit. The only pain I felt is slight

burning from the

numbing agent which only lasts a few seconds. They did give me something that

relaxed

me a bit so I was just very mellow. The process took literally no time at all

and I was in the

recovery room for about an hour then home! No pain...no nothing. I hear that

some

people experience some pain in their shoulder but I was lucky enough not to

suffer any

pain at all. Now I've just finished my 7th week of treatment and no sides

either!! I am

really hoping this continues for next 41 wks! Anyway, best of luck to you and

stop

worrying so much and just focus on slaying that nasty dragon!!!

Diane

>

> well i am fairly new to all this and seem to be havein a hard time

> dealing with it all.it is very overwelming........my biggest fear is

> the whole biopsy thing.....and to make it worse i cant find a support

> group in dallas that the pepole arent all poor me

>

[Guest guest]

>

> well i am fairly new to all this and seem to be havein a hard time

> dealing with it all.it is very overwelming........my biggest fear

is

> the whole biopsy thing.....and to make it worse i cant find a

support

> group in dallas that the pepole arent all poor me

>

Hi , I have had 2 biopsies and they wern't that bad. The first

one they went in twice and the 2nd time just once. I can understand

worrying about the biopsy and what it is going to feel like but it

really wasn't that painful. They do numb the skin before making a

small cut to put the needle through and they use and ultrsound to

check everything out before they do it. They may give you

something by mouth to relax before they do it. and on my 2nd one

they offered me something for pain after. You need to stay there a

few hours to make sure there is no bleeding and they check you with

another ultrasound before they release you. This is how they do it

in Massachusetts. I think that I will be going in myself for another

one after I see my new doctor. Keep the faith you will be fine and

good luck.

a

[Guest guest]

this whole thing is overwhelming sweetheart. just know theirs lots of us like

you all over the world. god bless, connie

a <vesta3553@...> wrote:

>

> well i am fairly new to all this and seem to be havein a hard time

> dealing with it all.it is very overwelming........my biggest fear

is

> the whole biopsy thing.....and to make it worse i cant find a

support

> group in dallas that the pepole arent all poor me

>

Hi , I have had 2 biopsies and they wern't that bad. The first

one they went in twice and the 2nd time just once. I can understand

worrying about the biopsy and what it is going to feel like but it

really wasn't that painful. They do numb the skin before making a

small cut to put the needle through and they use and ultrsound to

check everything out before they do it. They may give you

something by mouth to relax before they do it. and on my 2nd one

they offered me something for pain after. You need to stay there a

few hours to make sure there is no bleeding and they check you with

another ultrasound before they release you. This is how they do it

in Massachusetts. I think that I will be going in myself for another

one after I see my new doctor. Keep the faith you will be fine and

good luck.

a

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[Guest guest]

Hi again. As i stated before i am 38 yrs old. Mother of 3 children(ALL

BOYS) and was first dignosed with pbc/aih about 10 yrs ago, but took

the doctors another5 yrs before that to come up with a diagnosees.for

the past 5 years i was on urso 250 and prednolsone. Two weeks ago i

have started on URSO FORTE 500. It has helped some with inflammation.

My numbers were 4 times the normal range. And i have many other things

wrong, such as diabetes now, and hormone problems,sleeping problems,

depression, anxiety,joint/muscle pain etc. The worst i think is

always being in pain the area is always hurting, aches, get stabbing

pains at times. And getting very tired within a short time but can't

sleep. So does everyone feel like this?

My oldest son michael just had blood work done at the end of august,

and his levels were moderately elevated, so now the doc wants him to

go to my liver specialist. I am hoping he won't have to deal with

this, but from what i understand it can be inherited as an autoimmune

problem, so now what? Now i am afraid for all my boys. I just feel

like i am being punished. thanks Bishop

[Guest guest]

Gosh...I had no idea it was inherited. Yuck...however, since it is an

autoimmune disease, I guess it could occur in other family members. Yet, this

is a relatively rare disease, so I am thinking that the chances are pretty low

of getting it I would think.

Debby

[ ] Re: new to this

Hi again. As i stated before i am 38 yrs old. Mother of 3 children(ALL

BOYS) and was first dignosed with pbc/aih about 10 yrs ago, but took

the doctors another5 yrs before that to come up with a diagnosees.for

the past 5 years i was on urso 250 and prednolsone. Two weeks ago i

have started on URSO FORTE 500. It has helped some with inflammation.

My numbers were 4 times the normal range. And i have many other things

wrong, such as diabetes now, and hormone problems,sleeping problems,

depression, anxiety,joint/muscle pain etc. The worst i think is

always being in pain the area is always hurting, aches, get stabbing

pains at times. And getting very tired within a short time but can't

sleep. So does everyone feel like this?

My oldest son michael just had blood work done at the end of august,

and his levels were moderately elevated, so now the doc wants him to

go to my liver specialist. I am hoping he won't have to deal with

this, but from what i understand it can be inherited as an autoimmune

problem, so now what? Now i am afraid for all my boys. I just feel

like i am being punished. thanks Bishop

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[Guest guest]

Hi Debby, My Father was dignosed with chirios of liver a year ago

april, his is completely different than mine, but he retains water

and has Asities, He had to be in the hospital for a couple weeks,

and had 4 bags of blood transfused cause his count was so low, don't

know where it all went. They had to tap his belly and took out 3/4

quarts of liquid. So i am guessing that the particular liver

diseases may not be inherited, but with the actual functions of the

immunity can be. My son will be turning 21 next month, and it is a

bit scary since his father died when he was 21,(HE was then born 2

weeks later ) and around that age i was in the beginning stages of

pbc/aih. So anyways i am in the process of getting him health

issurance becasue ours just dropped him because of turning 21. So

here we go on the merry go round..... BRENDA B.

>

> Gosh...I had no idea it was inherited. Yuck...however, since it

is an autoimmune disease, I guess it could occur in other family

members. Yet, this is a relatively rare disease, so I am thinking

that the chances are pretty low of getting it I would think.

> Debby

> [ ] Re: new to this

>

>

> Hi again. As i stated before i am 38 yrs old. Mother of 3

children(ALL

> BOYS) and was first dignosed with pbc/aih about 10 yrs ago, but

took

> the doctors another5 yrs before that to come up with a

diagnosees.for

> the past 5 years i was on urso 250 and prednolsone. Two weeks

ago i

> have started on URSO FORTE 500. It has helped some with

inflammation.

> My numbers were 4 times the normal range. And i have many other

things

> wrong, such as diabetes now, and hormone problems,sleeping

problems,

> depression, anxiety,joint/muscle pain etc. The worst i think is

> always being in pain the area is always hurting, aches, get

stabbing

> pains at times. And getting very tired within a short time but

can't

> sleep. So does everyone feel like this?

> My oldest son michael just had blood work done at the end of

august,

> and his levels were moderately elevated, so now the doc wants

him to

> go to my liver specialist. I am hoping he won't have to deal

with

> this, but from what i understand it can be inherited as an

autoimmune

> problem, so now what? Now i am afraid for all my boys. I just

feel

> like i am being punished. thanks Bishop

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

, I am sure many people will be chiming in on this, but I just looked

up Dr. Weil's material on VCO:

http://health./ate/drweil/alldaily/2003/12/316479

I never thought highly of Dr. Weil anyway, but I must say that his writeup

is very shallow and adds nothing new to the " all saturated fat is bad "

mantra. If you read what he says you will see that he is saying plainly

that he has no idea, and that therefore it is best for us to stay away from

coconut oil.

More to follow ... in the meanwhile, please read my post of two days ago

about my cholesterol levels.

Take care,

Nina

New to this

Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about Virgin

Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight. When I

went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

have been really trying to eat right for the most part and exercise

as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a lot

on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an article by

Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has bad

opinions in there as well.

I just dont know what to think.

I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

appreciated!!

Thanks in advance,

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Hi :

I too was afraid to go ahead and use VCO in my diet being Diabetic. Any kind of

fat would raise my blood sugar. So I wrote to Dr. Bruce Fife who wrote the

cookbook I bought, called Coconut Lovers Cookbook where he mentions in the

beginning about how it helps the Insulin to get inside the cells since we are

all Insulin Resistant. Since I had a bad reaction to the Diabetes medication,

which I had to stop taking, I certainly needed something to help control my

blood sugar and boy does the VCO ever do a good job doing that.

I also found out that he had a book called Eat Fat - Look Thin which I also

bought. Just absolutely amazed at what this saturated fat can do for my health.

Lowers blood sugar, raises body temperature for weak Thyroid people,

tremendously helps digestion and absorption of nutrients which I had a problem

with. The list goes on and also raises metabolism causing weight loss.

Visit this site www.coconutresearchcenter.com and read their articles and see

the available books and so on.

Come on back with any questions .

Bonnie

New to this

Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about Virgin

Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight. When I

went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

have been really trying to eat right for the most part and exercise

as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a lot

on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an article by

Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has bad

opinions in there as well.

I just dont know what to think.

I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

appreciated!!

Thanks in advance,

[Guest guest]

, one further comment. I am in graduate school and I have been

looking closely at the peer-reviewed research that goes into all of these

filtered-down sources that we read on the internet and elsewhere. I can

testify that these research studies do not ask the questions that we need

answered. They use reductionist, biochemical assumptions and they lump

foods together that should not be lumped together. For example, they test

for " saturated fat " without distinguishing between the different kinds of

saturated fats that appear in different kinds of foods. Or they will

compare a " salad diet, " including lettuce and olive oil, with a " prudent

diet " , including cooked vegetables, poultry, low-fat milk, fish, rice

(without distinguishing between white rice and brown rice), without testing

for a whole-foods, plant-based diet like the one eaten by most traditional

cultures, with lots of grains, beans and vegetables and much less of the

animal food. Or they will test for " carbohydrates " without distinguishing

between simple and complex sugars or between refined and whole grains. Or

they will study " whole grains " without distinguishing between brown rice,

kasha, oatmeal (a flour product) or dry, old, stale, denatured breakfast

cereal fortified with God knows what. Or they will make declarations about

" coconut oil " while telling us that it makes no difference whether it is

virgin or not, without telling us which one it is.

In other words, they assume what they are trying to prove. You cannot test

for the effects of virgin coconut oil by using chicken skin, lard, dairy fat

or avocado, or hydrogenated coconut oil. You have to test the virgin

coconut oil. And these questions - like the other questions I have

enumerated above - have rarely been asked. For the most part, the studies

just aren't out there.

I do know this - that the diet I eat has simply not been tested, at least

not in case-controlled or prospective studies. However, there is lots of

epidemiology on it, and - like the epidemiology of virgin coconut oil - it

is all good. That is the kind of study I rely on.

I hope this helps.

Nina

New to this

Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about Virgin

Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight. When I

went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

have been really trying to eat right for the most part and exercise

as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a lot

on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an article by

Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has bad

opinions in there as well.

I just dont know what to think.

I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

appreciated!!

Thanks in advance,

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[Guest guest]

This is a personal testimony from me. I have been using the virgin

coconut oil to reduce weight. Taking it before meals breakfast,

lunch and dinner. 2 tablespoonfuls that is and I lost 15 lbs in

just 3 weeks.

It may have worked for me and suggested it to my friends which they

also thanked me for it because of positive results to them.

regards.

>

> Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about

Virgin

> Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight. When

I

> went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

> calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

> pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

> have been really trying to eat right for the most part and

exercise

> as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

> impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

>

> Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a

lot

> on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an article

by

> Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has

bad

> opinions in there as well.

>

> I just dont know what to think.

>

> I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

> Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

> take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

> appreciated!!

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

Hi, ,

I started taking the coconut oil just over two weeks ago and had a

lovely suprise when i stepped on the scales this morning. I've lost

several pounds already and had 10lbs to lose that i haven't been

able to shift over the last couple of years even eating really

sensibly, with no junk food. I have a sluggish thyroid but taking

my temperture this morning in was up to nearly normal.

Don't be scared of it but i suggest start with a teaspoon 3 times a

day with meals and build up to 3 1/2 tbsp and see how you tolerate

it. It can give you the runs or affect you the other way to start

with and has a detox affect on the body. I got a sore throat and

cough that co-incided with taking it and felt fatigued to start

with. Today my energy is up and apart from this break in my chores

I'm whizzing around doing lots of housework and i'm buzzing. I

suggest you read Bruce Fife's books that you can get on Amazon or

various websites that promote vco, to learn all the marvellous

benefits you can get from this oil. I was dubious at first, is this

just another fad that will let me down in my search for more energy

to do the things i want to do? I think this is for real even though

part of me still can't believe it.

Hope you get all the benefits you wish for yourself

Sally

ps the coconut milk(bought in 14oz cans from most supermarkets) is

good as well.

> Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about

Virgin

> Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight. When

I

> went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

> calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

> pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

> have been really trying to eat right for the most part and

exercise

> as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

> impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

>

> Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a

lot

> on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an article

by

> Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has

bad

> opinions in there as well.

>

> I just dont know what to think.

>

> I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

> Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

> take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

> appreciated!!

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for all of your responses!! I would love to hear anything

you have to offer.

My biggest 2 worries are:

I cannot have ANYthing that is remotely stimulating (like caffeine, red

bull, decongestants) due to a tachycardia problem for which I take a beta

blocker and because I am prone to anxiety. So I need to make sure this will

NOT create a stimulant effect.

Also, I do NOT want to gain EXTRA weight!!

Anyway, thanks and keep the responses coming if youd like – I want to hear

it all!!!

Rayne

http://spaces.msn.com/members/CheersRayne/

Re: New to this

>

Hi, ,

I started taking the coconut oil just over two weeks ago and had a

lovely suprise when i stepped on the scales this morning. I've lost

several pounds already and had 10lbs to lose that i haven't been

able to shift over the last couple of years even eating really

sensibly, with no junk food. I have a sluggish thyroid but taking

my temperture this morning in was up to nearly normal.

Don't be scared of it but i suggest start with a teaspoon 3 times a

day with meals and build up to 3 1/2 tbsp and see how you tolerate

it. It can give you the runs or affect you the other way to start

with and has a detox affect on the body. I got a sore throat and

cough that co-incided with taking it and felt fatigued to start

with. Today my energy is up and apart from this break in my chores

I'm whizzing around doing lots of housework and i'm buzzing. I

suggest you read Bruce Fife's books that you can get on Amazon or

various websites that promote vco, to learn all the marvellous

benefits you can get from this oil. I was dubious at first, is this

just another fad that will let me down in my search for more energy

to do the things i want to do? I think this is for real even though

part of me still can't believe it.

Hope you get all the benefits you wish for yourself

Sally

ps the coconut milk(bought in 14oz cans from most supermarkets) is

good as well.

> Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about

Virgin

> Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight. When

I

> went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

> calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

> pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

> have been really trying to eat right for the most part and

exercise

> as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

> impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

>

> Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a

lot

> on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an article

by

> Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has

bad

> opinions in there as well.

>

> I just dont know what to think.

>

> I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

> Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

> take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

> appreciated!!

>

> Thanks in advance,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have a question, I'm a newbie too, do you add it to water or hot

tea? also where can you buy coconut oil?

I need to lose weight, and heard it helps

thanks

Jenn

> >

> > Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about

> Virgin

> > Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight.

When

> I

> > went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

> > calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

> > pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

> > have been really trying to eat right for the most part and

> exercise

> > as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

> > impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

> >

> > Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a

> lot

> > on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an

article

> by

> > Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has

> bad

> > opinions in there as well.

> >

> > I just dont know what to think.

> >

> > I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

> > Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

> > take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

> > appreciated!!

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Osiyo !

Please be advised that the WebMD website is from medical doctors and huge

pharmaceutical companies. Therefore they will try to put down the benefits of

anything they cannot make huge profits on.

IE:

Colloidal Silver,

DMSO,

MSM,

Micro Electricity,

Coconut Oil,

and many others.

I have not been able to control my hypertension with herbal/natural remedies and

went to a DO and found that he is just an MD too. Big on giving prescriptions

and lacking on home remedies.

So PLEASE do not listen to the down players but do listen to the actual

experiences of people on this and other natural lists.

Love

Bob

Adageyudi

Staya Udanvti

[Guest guest]

This morning I put it on a Weight Watchers English muffin with some

cinnamon. It was bearable. This was my first time :-)

I bought it at a local health food store.

Rayne

http://spaces.msn.com/members/CheersRayne/

Re: New to this

I have a question, I'm a newbie too, do you add it to water or hot

tea? also where can you buy coconut oil?

I need to lose weight, and heard it helps

thanks

Jenn

> >

> > Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about

> Virgin

> > Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight.

When

> I

> > went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at the

> > calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

> > pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose. I

> > have been really trying to eat right for the most part and

> exercise

> > as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

> > impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

> >

> > Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading a

> lot

> > on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an

article

> by

> > Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that has

> bad

> > opinions in there as well.

> >

> > I just dont know what to think.

> >

> > I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take this?

> > Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How to

> > take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be SO

> > appreciated!!

> >

> > Thanks in advance,

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

, it may create a stimulant effect. Buy a small jar and try a tiny bit,

and see how you respond to it. For your tachycardia and anxiety, I recommend a

slow-paced yoga practice (not the power yogas). If you would like me to look at

your diet privately, let me know.

Some people do gain weight from VCO, but I think most don't.

Either way, the only way to know what will be true for you is to try it.

Nina

RE: Re: New to this

>

>Thank you so much for all of your responses!! I would love to hear anything

>you have to offer.

>

>

>

>My biggest 2 worries are:

>

>

>

>I cannot have ANYthing that is remotely stimulating (like caffeine, red

>bull, decongestants) due to a tachycardia problem for which I take a beta

>blocker and because I am prone to anxiety. So I need to make sure this will

>NOT create a stimulant effect.

>

>

>

>Also, I do NOT want to gain EXTRA weight!!

>

>

>

>Anyway, thanks and keep the responses coming if youd like – I want to hear

>it all!!!

>

>

>

> Rayne

>

>

>

>http://spaces.msn.com/members/CheersRayne/

[Guest guest]

Nina,

Thank you!! For the tachycardia I take a beta blocker which works fabulously

– only it does make me tired. For the anxiety I do use some CBT techniques,

plus I take klonopin daily. Ihave been feeling great in that reagard. I took

one tbsp of the VCO this morning and feel fine. Would it be stimulating

right away? I just hate the thought of that feeling!!

I also take a B Complex, a multi, a calcium/magnesium/Vit D supplement, and

fish oil.

My email is cheers44@... if you want to contact me J

Again, thank you!!

Rayne

http://spaces.msn.com/members/CheersRayne/

RE: Re: New to this

>

>Thank you so much for all of your responses!! I would love to hear anything

>you have to offer.

>

>

>

>My biggest 2 worries are:

>

>

>

>I cannot have ANYthing that is remotely stimulating (like caffeine, red

>bull, decongestants) due to a tachycardia problem for which I take a beta

>blocker and because I am prone to anxiety. So I need to make sure this will

>NOT create a stimulant effect.

>

>

>

>Also, I do NOT want to gain EXTRA weight!!

>

>

>

>Anyway, thanks and keep the responses coming if youd like I want to hear

>it all!!!

>

>

>

> Rayne

>

>

>

>http://spaces. <http://spaces.msn.com/members/CheersRayne/>

msn.com/members/CheersRayne/

[Guest guest]

Hi : I just read your e-mail and would like to know what CET Techniques

are and how you use them for anxiety. Thank you, Andi

RE: Re: New to this

>

>Thank you so much for all of your responses!! I would love to hear anything

>you have to offer.

>

>

>

>My biggest 2 worries are:

>

>

>

>I cannot have ANYthing that is remotely stimulating (like caffeine, red

>bull, decongestants) due to a tachycardia problem for which I take a beta

>blocker and because I am prone to anxiety. So I need to make sure this will

>NOT create a stimulant effect.

>

>

>

>Also, I do NOT want to gain EXTRA weight!!

>

>

>

>Anyway, thanks and keep the responses coming if youd like I want to hear

>it all!!!

>

>

>

> Rayne

>

>

>

>http://spaces. <http://spaces.msn.com/members/CheersRayne/>

msn.com/members/CheersRayne/

[Guest guest]

Was this the coconut-flavored VCO? I find it quite yummy and use it

like butter. Smashed potatoes get really creamy and have such a

nice flavor. anything hot, I put it in - try it in cocoa or hot

chocolate, whatever you want to call it. Yeah it floats on the top

a bit, but a quick stir, and it disappears.

Carolsea

> > >

> > > Hi there! My name is . I am 32. I was just told about

> > Virgin

> > > Coconut Oil this past week. It was suggested to lose weight.

> When

> > I

> > > went to the health food store to buy it I was astonished at

the

> > > calories and sat fat content. I gained about 70lbs when I was

> > > pregnant (had baby 2 years ago). I have about 20 more to lose.

I

> > > have been really trying to eat right for the most part and

> > exercise

> > > as much as I can (tho I do HATE it). But these last 20 lbs are

> > > impossible and ALL in my lower abs.

> > >

> > > Anyway...since getting home from the store I have been reading

a

> > lot

> > > on it and there is SOOOO much conflicting info. I read an

> article

> > by

> > > Dr Weil which says NOT to take it. And another on WebMD that

has

> > bad

> > > opinions in there as well.

> > >

> > > I just dont know what to think.

> > >

> > > I would LOVE some advice from you experts Should I take

this?

> > > Does it interact with medications? Have any side effects? How

to

> > > take it? How much? Anything you can think to tell me would be

SO

> > > appreciated!!

> > >

> > > Thanks in advance,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>