recovery

[Guest guest]

Thanks ....I appreciate hearing your wonderful story!

Sharon

[Guest guest]

<< The best gain I have seen with my child's abilities happen to be when we

were doing nothing other than intense ABA.

Other than aba(which helped a great deal) we did 4 IV infusions of secretin

which did help somewhat.

I think the potential of mercury poisoning is the first thing that actually

has a probable cause/effect relationship; however, much like secretin, I'm

seeing lots of folks scrambling to try it without seeing lots of positive

results.

I suspect that if parents are doing it without reason to do it, why would

they see results. You can't chelate if it ain't there. Run the tests, see if

it's an issue first for your child.

Something to think about. I am waiting to hear from parents who can say

without a doubt that mercury removal has been successful and safe.

I can say without any doubt what so ever that chelation is helping my 12 y.o.

son.

Is it safe? Is has been with my child. I am only sorry I waited so long to

start it. Carole

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 07/08/2000 2:14:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kblanco@... writes:

<< ..I probably have missed my window of oppertunity, being that my son is 19

and daughter is 12.

>>

Never say never :-) My son is 12. He is responding very well. He is

changing. He will not be the same child when we are done. Will he recover? I

find that possiblity hard to believe. Will he have a better shot at life? You

betcha!!!!!!! Carole

[Guest guest]

Where can you run the mercury tests???

Crystal

[Guest guest]

<< Where can you run the mercury tests??? >>

Hair element analysis, Doctor's Data, Inc, West Chicago, IL. Make sure to

interpret the test properly using the counting rules previously posted to

this list to check mineral transport as mercury itself is NOT the indicator

for mercury intoxication.

Fractionated urine porphyrins, Kline Beecham Clinical Laboratories -

these guys are ubiquitous and are almost certainly on your health plan.

Hair, urine and blood levels of mercury itself (with or without chelating

agents) can be misleadingly low even in someone who is severely poisoned.

Much other testing is discussed in my book <A

HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/noamalgam " >Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and

Treatment</A>.

Andy Cutler

[Guest guest]

Me too, I won't rush out and do this unless I see some case studies with those perameters. I belive the faster you get to this when younger the better...I probably have missed my window of oppertunity, being that my son is 19 and daughter is 12.

[ ] Recovery

I asked about recovery recently. I should have been more specific. Has anyone removed mercury from an autistic child (with no dental fillings) and seen significant results? I have tried remedies and spent lots of money in the past. I have tried diets, vitamins, homeopathics, etc. The best gain I have seen with my child's abilities happen to be when we were doing nothing other than intense ABA. I think the potential of mercury poisoning is the first thing that actually has a probable cause/effect relationship; however, much like secretin, I'm seeing lots of folks scrambling to try it without seeing lots of positive results. Something to think about. I am waiting to hear from parents who can say without a doubt that mercury removal has been successful and safe.

Thank you

Little

-careful of her babe's delicate system

[Guest guest]

Without a doubt, the mercury and other toxic metals chelated from my son have

led to an extremely dramatic amount of progress developmentally, socially,

academically, and physically. We have seen gains each time we've done a

round of chelation. His last three evaluations placed him outside the

autistic spectrum however, he does still struggle with alot of autistic-type

challenges most of which are strongly tied to metals toxicity.

He did not have any fillings in his teeth but I did and had what was most

likely several botched filling replacements a few years before getting

pregnant. We also lived on a golf course where there was most likely alot of

mercury left from past antifungal spraying. He showed mercury in every hair

analysis along with just about every other toxic metal there is. He also

showed the scattering of essential elements Andy said was an indicator of

metals toxicity. His last hair analysis showed a more even pattern of

essential elements though some were still scattered.

Now, we have done alot of other things while we've been detoxing so I highly

recommended that folks don't just depend on a detox to heal their child. You

have to rebuild from the damage with whatever complimentary treatments and

therapies they need. However, I can say that it was more of a struggle to

work with him prior to detoxing and we'd often see more periods of

backsliding (especially in the summertime when the golf course did their most

aggressive spraying).

As far as safety, you do take a risk however we have only seen positive

health improvements with the detox. He has had a few periods where he seemed

a bit too overtaxed but backing off a little, giving him homeopathic drainers

and doing other things to boost his system helped him with these. He did

have an increase in seizure activity for a few years that would often cycle

with the detox but now he is virtually seizure free thanks to detoxing.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

<< Now, we have done alot of other things while we've been detoxing so I

highly

recommended that folks don't just depend on a detox to heal their child. You

have to rebuild from the damage with whatever complimentary treatments and

therapies they need. >>

I agree. You can't get your child well without detox, but if you don't do

this they will suffer a LOT more than is necessary and it will take a LOT

longer than it has to. Just don't lose sight of the important task - detox -

because the other stuff is so complicated. Make sure you get on with detox

and figure the other stuff out as best you can while you go.

Andy

[Guest guest]

<< Is the fractionated urine porphyrins test as all telling as the hair

element analysis test?? >>

In its own way, yes. What it doesn't tell you is what the poison is. Also,

if you have hepatitis, mono, or certain other liver problems the

porphyrins go way up too.

The porphyrin test is a pretty standard one so if the doc codes it as

" metabolic disorder, unspecified " or something really vague and general like

that insurance should pick it up while they may balk at hair elements.

Unlike hair elements it is pretty easy for the lab to screw up and get a

falsely normal porphyrin test back. This is due to sample mishandling and if

you do the sample prep yourself it should be safe.

Andy Cutler

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I don't doubt that removing mercury from our kids bodies is

beneficial, I believe that my overabundance of amalgam fillings is causing

problems for me. I wonder if introduced at a much younger age if I might

have had svser developmental problems.

The problem with our kids from being exposed to mercury at such young

ages is damage to the CNS which for some reason isn't being repaired, or

perhaps not in the way to really help our kids. I'm no doc and this is

just my opinion. I am eagerly awaiting the results of studies which have

been proposed by Sally Bernard et al which will determine what areas of the

brain have been affected by mercury exposure. I think once we know what's

broken you can then determine how it might be fixed. These are pretty big

statements, but I tend to pray alot.

Thanks,

Ed

Lulu1958@... on 07/08/2000 02:38:53 PM

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Subject: Re: [ ] Recovery

<< The best gain I have seen with my child's abilities happen to be when

we

were doing nothing other than intense ABA.

Other than aba(which helped a great deal) we did 4 IV infusions of secretin

which did help somewhat.

I think the potential of mercury poisoning is the first thing that

actually

has a probable cause/effect relationship; however, much like secretin, I'm

seeing lots of folks scrambling to try it without seeing lots of positive

results.

I suspect that if parents are doing it without reason to do it, why would

they see results. You can't chelate if it ain't there. Run the tests, see

if

it's an issue first for your child.

Something to think about. I am waiting to hear from parents who can say

without a doubt that mercury removal has been successful and safe.

I can say without any doubt what so ever that chelation is helping my 12

y.o.

son.

Is it safe? Is has been with my child. I am only sorry I waited so long to

start it. Carole

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Andy,

Is the fractionated urine porphyrins test as all telling as the hair

element analysis test??

Pam

At 04:40 PM 7/8/00 -0400, you wrote:

><< Where can you run the mercury tests??? >>

>

>Hair element analysis, Doctor's Data, Inc, West Chicago, IL. Make sure

to

>interpret the test properly using the counting rules previously posted to

>this list to check mineral transport as mercury itself is NOT the indicator

>for mercury intoxication.

>

>Fractionated urine porphyrins, Kline Beecham Clinical Laboratories -

>these guys are ubiquitous and are almost certainly on your health plan.

>

>Hair, urine and blood levels of mercury itself (with or without chelating

>agents) can be misleadingly low even in someone who is severely poisoned.

>

>Much other testing is discussed in my book <A

>HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/noamalgam " >Amalgam Illness: Diagnosis and

>Treatment</A>.

>

>Andy Cutler

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Interestingly, an obscure paper and a posting I saw mentioned Porphyria as a

cause for autism...stating that it is a dual poisining of pesticides and

heavy metals. It was a report done years ago about veterens of the

Vietnamn War and the effects on their children. This would make sense to

me since I was exposed all my life to malathion, both containing not only

the pesticide but mercury poisining. The obscure post had a reference to

that, if I can find it it would be fascinating. It makes sense in regard to

the booming autism population, what makes us think we are so far removed

from three legged frogs? Not to mention we prefer to stick ourselves with

poisings or place them in our mouths so that we daily ingest it, delayed

lipids and autoantibodies, we are truly messing with God intended immunity

and health. The last FEAT bulletin about US WORLD report, jim morris,

speaks of that. I spoke to him several times about my story, contributing

some information for him. Why do you think SHAW realized the pandemic in

California? Well, doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that scheduled

malathion helicopter eradication programs could have done that, particularly

in the BAY AREA where all my children were born ( I have two with autism,

one with ADD and one child seemingly not affected, but who knows?). Then

a report about two years ago done by the USSD (san diego), found that

amniotic fluid of subjects were full of pesticides, not one of them didn't

have some kind of pesticide residual. THey counted the maximum levels were

around 50 residual pesticides. Who knows how much more a skin test would

show? After the war, they actually did a test (WW2), and found that forty

years later, we might have as much as 500 residual poisins in our bodies!

(carcinogens, pesticides, you name it) There are our kids, floating,

ingesting and absorbing that before they come into this world, great! I

believe these contribute to endocrine disruption, brain development and

predisposes further the injury if exposed repeatedly. Put on top of the

immunogenetic features as far as autoimmune diseases in the family, and

whala, there you go. See Steve Edelsons page, www.edelson.org .

Re: [ ] Recovery

><< Is the fractionated urine porphyrins test as all telling as the hair

>element analysis test?? >>

>

>In its own way, yes. What it doesn't tell you is what the poison is.

Also,

> if you have hepatitis, mono, or certain other liver problems the

>porphyrins go way up too.

>

>The porphyrin test is a pretty standard one so if the doc codes it as

> " metabolic disorder, unspecified " or something really vague and general

like

>that insurance should pick it up while they may balk at hair elements.

>

>Unlike hair elements it is pretty easy for the lab to screw up and get a

>falsely normal porphyrin test back. This is due to sample mishandling and

if

>you do the sample prep yourself it should be safe.

>

>Andy Cutler

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In a message dated 7/8/00 2:12:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lisalittle@... writes:

<< Has anyone removed mercury from an autistic child (with no dental

fillings) and seen significant results? >>

We have been attempting to remove mercury from our daughter na who is 7

years old (and has no fillings) for about 1 year now, and we have had very

significant results. Including our school district's recognition of her

improvements!

Let me give you some background, as I would encourage anyone who suspects

mercury poisoning to seek professional help, and get as involved as possible,

because our experience has been that you will not get help unless you seek it

out forcefully!

Recently, during her annual school testing, which was also her tri-annual

evaluation she tested well in most areas except for math. Also, the school

psychologist was the most impressed by her ability to draw pictures of

answers even when she didn't comply with the testing guidelines, and was

therefore scored low. Most of these areas she was considered untestable in

the year before. Because of this she will be in a somewhat higher

functioning (more verbal) but still self contained 3rd grade classroom next

year.

We haven't fully compiled her improvements which we note daily, but she is

much more communicative now, and we have great hope for continued success.

Off the top opf my head, here are a few noted improvements during the past

year. She will answer yes / no questions, such as do you need to go to the

bathroom accurately (although she will still have accidents if she is not

asked and taken to the toilet). Typically, she no longer runs away when

outdoors. Tantrums have greatly been reduced as well. We think that this is

largely due to her ability to express herself, and we may now hear her say

things like " Radio off " when we are driving. She also has taken to singing.

Based on your post, I think that our paths have been somewhat similar. I

would also point out to you, that when tested, na did not show high

mercury in her urine, blood or hair which was a recent sample. We were

fortunate enough to have found a Doctor to do chelation who did not let the

test results diminish his support for the treatments. Instead he interpreted

the results correctly to mean that she did not have a recent or ongoing

exposure to mercury, which was a good thing. In retrospect, she did show the

characteristic imbalance of several substances very high and very low in the

hair test.

na received the now considered unfortunate pattern of infant and toddler

vaccinations, beginning with Hep B at 9 days old, continuing up to 8 mercury

containing doses at 6 months. At about the 6 month point (197 days of age) ,

she was caught up by receiving 2 (Hep b # 3 & Hib # 3) while on amoxicillin

treatment for an ear infection. She had developed sever constipation which

persisted for over 6 years, which was never dealt with properly. She went on

to complete the required vaccinations which totaled 15 by age 2, 11 with

Thimerosal (3 Hep B, 4 Hib, & 4 DPT). Her lack of speech is noted on her

pediatric records (language watch) at 13 months of age which is

coincidentally (in my opinion) 1 month after her MMR shot which did not

contain mercury. She was diagnosed as having a speech delay and a lack of

relatedness when she was 2 years old. She was not considered autistic at

that time because she had a close relationship with her mother, which the

person from our county health department noted, but eventually we began to

hear the terms PDD, autistic spectrum, and then at age 4. Dr. Isabel Rapin

who is often considered the guru of autism, gave us the diagnosis Autistic -

not high functioning, which we took to be fighting words. Although she

didn't support the Dan Protocol, chiropractic treatments, auditory

intervention therapy, casein / gluten removal or many other programs which we

began. She did refer us for genetic testing, an EEG and an MRI, which we

eventually did. The 3 day EEG was my first real clue. They found no

epilepsy, which we were afraid of due to her shaking and staring spells.

They did note a slowing of wave patterns, diffuse encephalopathy, and spikes

in the occipital lobes. They did not have anything to add, except that they

didn't know why and that medication was not advised at that time. In my

searching on line, in bookstores and libraries, I found references to the EEG

results of people from Minimata bay, which led me to look further into

mercury, but we had no known exposure at that time. In July 1999, when the

news broke about thimerosal, we sought to do chelation. First, with an over

the counter detox product which amazingly improved her bowel function from 6

days to 2!, and about a month later with the doctor I mentioned above, who

used DMSA and other homeopathic treatments for heavy metals, aluminum,

hepatitis, .... We have chartered a slow and steady course, having found

other problems such as pinworms to clear up along the way. It was only this

year in February when we found Lyn, and she started the one-list that things

began to get moving. We began the DMSA and alpha Lipoic Acid every 3 hour

treatment this month, and are in our second round (3 days on, 3 days off, and

are now in our 4th day on again). This seems to be the most promising

approach that I have found, and we aim to prove it successful!

I hope this helps, I also hope that one day we can all write successful case

histories. Joe Marciano

[Guest guest]

,

This is very common, try reading Dr. Greenspan's book about special

needs children and look up information about his therapeutic approach

(it's called Floortime). It's really easy to incorporate into daily

life and works wonders for expanding a child's circle and tolerance.

Khris

[Guest guest]

>if you receive any, will you forward them to me? i am not sure

about this... barb

> Hi All,

> I am a new member and have a son 5 years old diagnosed with

pdd/autism. I am interested in finding out if there any children who

have fully recoverd after the treatment?

>

> I will appriciate any response.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Farisa.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I'm curious of all the people diagnosed who are very

underweight, has anyone gained a substantial amount of

within 2 years of diagnosis? Or maybe I should say

since going gluten free, because it really took me

over six to eliminate it entirely from my diet and

somtimes I think I still get contamination or screw up

because I eat out a lot.

Thanks,

Naren

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Hi Amy,

Thanks for writing. I am Indian and I was born in NY.

From what I remember when I went to the conference

last year, the presence is about avg. in Indians.

Glad you've gained some weight. I was diagnosed about

the same time as you I guess, and I don't think I've

really made any progress (physically at least). I've

adjusted pretty well to the diet but then again I just

screwed up the other day and started drinking rice

milk and almond milk with gluten in it. I always read

labels and I suppose I just got lazy. Well, I

recommend you check out the stanford conference if you

haven't planned on it already. Maybe I'll meet you

there.

Naren

--- amybhatnagar <amy.bhatnagar@...> wrote:

> Hi Naren,

> I was diagnosed a year ago, but I think I've been

> truly gluten-free

> only since January. I have gained about 15 to 20

> pounds from a year

> back, but was also losing weight rapidly back then.

> I definately feel

> better and look healthier.

>

> Just curious if you are of Indian origin? My

> husband is Indian and

> I've been trying to educate our Indian

> friends/family about celiac

> disease, since I'm hearing it's just as common in

> the Indian population.

>

> Amy

>

>

>

> > I'm curious of all the people diagnosed who are

> very

> > underweight, has anyone gained a substantial

> amount of

> > within 2 years of diagnosis? Or maybe I should

> say

> > since going gluten free, because it really took me

> > over six to eliminate it entirely from my diet and

> > somtimes I think I still get contamination or

> screw up

> > because I eat out a lot.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Naren

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Kenda, you are right. Women can feel better or worse after explant

in the first few days afterwards. Everyone has different issues

that affect how well and how fast they recover. Definitely there is

a stirring up of toxins through the surgical procedure itself that

can make one feel worse. Those women that have some immediate relief

would probably be having some allergic reactions to an implant

component that are quieted with the removal of the implants.

However, most women are going to need a few days of rest and taking

it easy to let the body recover. And of course, we have hammered

the point over and over again that full recovery takes months and

months and months, or rather, years.

Melinda, I am sure you are anxious to feel better. I was that way!

But don't have high expectations, or you may be disappointed at the

slowness of your recovery. Take care of yourself and don't be

impatient. Explant is easier than implant, but healing is not a

piece of cake over the long term. It is maddeningly slow and

fraught with flares and exacerbations, and the effort required to

help the body along can make you feel like giving up sometimes.

Patience is going to be your best virtue! That, and tenacity. Keep

a good attitude, stay positive, and remain bonded with those of us

who can encourage you as you go through this. Healing will happen

in time!

Fluffing is going to happen over a period of months--give it at

least 6 months, and the change will almost be hard to notice. But in

time you will see your breasts return to their pre-implant size,

which happens in most cases.

Congratulations on your explant! Now just rest and look forward to

a good future. This is a time for you to enjoy life in every way

that you are able with the simple things in life.

Hugs,

Patty

--- In , Kenda Skaggs <skaggs@c...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Melinda!

>

> I'm glad you got through surgery ok. Kathy or Rogene can correct

me if I'm

> wrong, but I'd think feeling worse would be part of healing for a

lot of

> women. Getting the implants out has got to stir up toxins and

fungus in

> your body. Take it easy, eat the best you can and drink lots of

water. Have

> you heard how your implants looked when they removed them?

>

> Take care,

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Hey ladies, I'm dictating this message to my partner from

Dallas. Had my

> > surgery Friday, so now I am on day three. Today I feel worse

than yesterday,

> > very light-headed and dizzy, my ears are throbbing, and just

drained. Haven't

> > been doing much at all, took a walk down the hall and it made me

feel very

> > light-headed. Is this normal? The only meds I am taking is

tylenol. My poor

> > breasts look like sad little deflated popovers. The fluffing

that everyone

> > talks about, when does that start? Anyway, I'm glad they're

out, I thought I

> > would be a little more elated, glad to be going home on Monday.

I will be

> > checking my e-mail, so if anybody has any wise words, I would

appreciate it.

> > Melinda

>

[Guest guest]

-

Melinda

Hang in there! It will take awhile to fluff out. YOu have to

remember there is a pocket created by the implant and now that it

has been removed, your breasts need to be compressed to make sure

they heal correctly. Then, after the compression and bandages are

off, your breasts will slowly decompress. The tissue inside has

been compressed by the implant and it will take time to get back to

normal.

I am not sure why you are dizzy, but anything is possible. Just

rest, drink plenty of water, and be good to yourself. Are you on

antibiotics? I think I had IV antibiotics and then some after

surgery also. You may be reacting to the antibiotics if that is the

case. Also, if you are taking any pain meds, that might be causing

the symptoms. I wouldn't be that concerned at this point. Keep us

current on how you are doing and I hope you have a safe trip back

home!

Hugs,kathy

-- In , " freebindi " <bindi@a...> wrote:

>

> Hey ladies, I'm dictating this message to my partner from Dallas.

Had my surgery Friday, so now I am on day three. Today I feel worse

than yesterday, very light-headed and dizzy, my ears are throbbing,

and just drained. Haven't been doing much at all, took a walk down

the hall and it made me feel very light-headed. Is this normal?

The only meds I am taking is tylenol. My poor breasts look like sad

little deflated popovers. The fluffing that everyone talks about,

when does that start? Anyway, I'm glad they're out, I thought I

would be a little more elated, glad to be going home on Monday. I

will be checking my e-mail, so if anybody has any wise words, I

would appreciate it. Melinda

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Melinda,

Please don't worry three days is very early to see much improvement anywhere.

I can remember after my removal the giddiness was awful for me, I can really relate with you but I can promise you that it will wear off just give it a bit more time. The same for the breasts fluffing, that can take a while mine looked awful for a few weeks but they will return to shape.

Please try not to worry to much as its very early days but you will feel better.

Take care

Love Sue

[Guest guest]

hang in there Melinda, i am at week 3 and I can't tell you how much my

breasts have changed since surgery. fluffing may actually take up to a

year for some. It all depends on the person. Please rest up and take

it easy! Keep us updated on your recovery!

Jenna

>

> Hey ladies, I'm dictating this message to my partner from Dallas.

Had my surgery Friday, so now I am on day three. Today I feel worse

than yesterday, very light-headed and dizzy, my ears are throbbing,

and just drained. Haven't been doing much at all, took a walk down

the hall and it made me feel very light-headed. Is this normal? The

only meds I am taking is tylenol. My poor breasts look like sad

little deflated popovers. The fluffing that everyone talks about,

when does that start? Anyway, I'm glad they're out, I thought I would

be a little more elated, glad to be going home on Monday. I will be

checking my e-mail, so if anybody has any wise words, I would

appreciate it. Melinda

>

[Guest guest]

Well that is amazing! I guess I should keep my old C bras then

instead of tossing them!

hang in there Melinda, i am at week 3

and I can't tell you how much my

> breasts have changed since surgery. fluffing may actually take up

to a

> year for some. It all depends on the person. Please rest up and

take

> it easy! Keep us updated on your recovery!

>

> Jenna

>

>

> --- In , " freebindi " <bindi@a...>

wrote:

> >

> > Hey ladies, I'm dictating this message to my partner from

Dallas.

> Had my surgery Friday, so now I am on day three. Today I feel

worse

> than yesterday, very light-headed and dizzy, my ears are

throbbing,

> and just drained. Haven't been doing much at all, took a walk

down

> the hall and it made me feel very light-headed. Is this normal?

The

> only meds I am taking is tylenol. My poor breasts look like sad

> little deflated popovers. The fluffing that everyone talks about,

> when does that start? Anyway, I'm glad they're out, I thought I

would

> be a little more elated, glad to be going home on Monday. I will

be

> checking my e-mail, so if anybody has any wise words, I would

> appreciate it. Melinda

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Melinda,

I'm so sorry you're having a tough time! . . . It will

get better - but I know that can't happen soon enough

for you.

I've found that eating raw, crushed, fresh garlic do

wonders for me when my ear starts hurting . . . It

certainly can't hurt! . . . You can scrape it from a

garlic press with half an empty gel capsule it eating

it is too much.

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Melinda,

How are you feeling today? . . .

I'd suggest working up to lifting carefully over time.

If you injure yourself now, you'll have a lifetime to

live with it. . . I know it seems forever, but it

really won't be long before you can do whatever you

want to.

Keep working on gentle stretches and movements,

building muscle without straining them. Your body will

tell you quickly when it's too much if you'll listen.

At this time, pain is not desirable!

Eating right is much more important than most people

realize. You wouldn't expect your body to stay well on

a diet of sawdust, would you? . . . However, some of

the foods we eat aren't any more nourishing than

sawdust. Concentrate on eating healthy foods so body

can convert the nutrients into healthy tissue.

And yes, the Bible is a very common sense document!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Melinda,

I am not a Christian, either, but I find the book very practical. I can't help

with the laundry

etc, and lifting, because I still have problems with that but it is not because

of healing

from surgery.

I don't know why you couldn't start cleansing right away. Blackberry smoothies

sound

fabulous. I so miss the blackberries in Seattle - I used to jog there, and huge

blackberries

just grew wild. I would jog, and munch on blackberries!

I love them still.

When to stop blood thinning meds is something your doctor should advise...

>

> Hey again,

> Two questions:

> I am wondering how long to avoid upper body exercise, I mean like lifting

baskets of

laundry, etc. Melmed said a week or two, but he's kind of loose about stuff

compared to

other surgeons. Anybody have any ideas?

>

> Secondly, I was wondering when I can stop avoiding the blood-thinning foods

and

supplements and when I can slowly start cleansing.(I'm dying to have a

blackberry

smoothie!) I have a good clean diet but I'd like to do what I can to help myself

along. I've

watched the posts about that, and also have Rubin's book " The Maker's Diet. " I

am not a

Christian and I don't agree with everything he says, but I am amazed at how many

things

one can find in the Bible that are good common sense.

>

> Melinda

>