Flying

January 6, 2000

In a message dated 1/6/00 4:27:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

onelist writes:

> I've had CFIDS now for 4 1/2 years. Developed a fear of flying so

basically

>

> didn't fly anymore. However, February of 1999 I got back on an airplane

Four months into CFS I got on a plane and had a panic attack. I tried to get

off

but it was too late. I have been flying for 35 years. Fortunately, flying

got better.

I figured the worst that could happen is death, and a few years ago that

alternative

didn't seem too bad!

Mike

May 27, 2000

My mother knows of someone who got the " flu " after a flight and ended

up with CFIDS. I don't know anything specific about this, but here

is a website by a former flight attendant, Fairechild, who

explains how you can request more fresh air in the cabin ( " full

utilization of air, please. " ). There is an explanation of this, as

well as other tips to avoid illness from flying. She has a " fast

facts " page and also sells a book on the subject, I believe. Here is

the page...

http://www.flyana.com/fast.html

Laurie Lassesen

May 27, 2000

Hi Jackie,

Dr. Garth Nicolson said that high pressure environments like flying and

diving can make the mycoplasma symptoms worse. CFS patients also have the

oxygen problem with 2,3-DPG(oxygen transport) that Dr. Cheney mentions.

Al

Flying

> My husband's going to England on a business trip and has suggested I

> go

> with him. I probably won't, but am wondering about flying. I've

> heard

> that people with CFS can get sick when they fly. Is it true, and

> what

> could I do to prevent the sickness?

>

> Jackie

>

May 27, 2000

I have been on 4 hour flights and been fine!

May 27, 2000

Jackie,

Not to deter you but my personal experience with flying was a

disaster. I was doing great until I stepped onto a flight from Newark

NJ to Paris, France. About 5 hours into the flight I started to feel

sick all over, arthris type symptoms flared up, and I felt horrible.

I spent a total of 18 hours on planes over a four day period and it

totally did me in. It took me almost two weeks to recover from it.

It will be a cold day in hell before I ever step on a plane again.

> Hi Jackie,

> Dr. Garth Nicolson said that high pressure environments like

flying and

> diving can make the mycoplasma symptoms worse. CFS patients also

have the

> oxygen problem with 2,3-DPG(oxygen transport) that Dr. Cheney

mentions.

> Al

> Flying

>

> > My husband's going to England on a business trip and has

suggested I

> > go

> > with him. I probably won't, but am wondering about flying. I've

> > heard

> > that people with CFS can get sick when they fly. Is it true, and

> > what

> > could I do to prevent the sickness?

> >

> > Jackie

> >

May 28, 2000

hi,

the year before i got sick with this illness i got very sick four hours

into a flight to hong kong.(i had flown from the east to west coast without

any promblems prior to that)

when i flew from the east coast to florida,once sick with cfids, i

relapsed badly from flying.. I didnt know i had mycoplasma, chlamdida

etc...and they really kicked up badly. I would not fly again till they are

cleared up .

my two cents..

but, if you fly , you can take a certain type of oxygen on board for the

flight.(sorry tired and cannot rmemeber details) good luck

somish

May 28, 2000

Jackie Naiditch wrote:

> My husband's going to England on a business trip and has suggested I

> go with him. I probably won't, but am wondering about flying. I've

> heard that people with CFS can get sick when they fly. Is it true,

> and

> what could I do to prevent the sickness?

>

Get a prescription for oxygen on the airplane. It made all the

difference for me on a recent trip to Hawaii. My doctor made the rx out

for 2 L by nasal cannula, which is not a lot of oxygen by itself, but

was enough of a supplement to make up for the poor oxygenation of the

airplane. You will need to contact the airline ahead of time to tell

them you have an oxygen requirement, and you'll need to have the

doctors' rx in hand each time you check in. There is a charge of

$50-$75 per cannister, depending on the airlines; each cannister lasts a

little over four hours at the 2 L rate.

Also, bring your own food as much as possible. God only knows what they

put in those airline meals!

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May 30, 2000

Hi all-

I traveled for business almost every week for nearly

20 years and finally succumbed to my chronic fatigue

problem after yet another business trip. Flying

seemed to be the very worst trigger for all my

symptoms - joint pain, crushing fatigue - plus a

breeding ground for chronic upper respiratory

infections. I avoid flying now if possible, but if I

can't I try to limit non-stops to 3 hours or less,

walk frequently in the aisles on the plane, limit

caffeine and alcohol intake to avoid dehydration, and

take a mega-dose of vitamins before I go (I like

Source Naturals Wellness Formula). This seems to work

pretty well for me.

Best, Jennie

--- " Laurie L. " <laurie@...> wrote:

> My mother knows of someone who got the " flu " after a

> flight and ended

> up with CFIDS. I don't know anything specific about

> this, but here

> is a website by a former flight attendant,

> Fairechild, who

> explains how you can request more fresh air in the

> cabin ( " full

> utilization of air, please. " ). There is an

> explanation of this, as

> well as other tips to avoid illness from flying.

> She has a " fast

> facts " page and also sells a book on the subject, I

> believe. Here is

> the page...

> http://www.flyana.com/fast.html

>

> Laurie Lassesen

>

__________________________________________________

October 17, 2000

> Your are welcome Jerry.

> The only thing I do for ear problems on an airplane is I hold my nose with

my

> fingers and blow to equalize the pressure...

>

You also may want to take a decongestant an hour before flying and chew gum.

I had problems with my eardrums bursting everytime I flew and that was how I

managed it. (Recommended my an ENT Specialist.)

October 17, 2000

In a message dated 10/17/2000 4:53:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

gprescottis@... writes:

<<The only thing I do for ear problems on an airplane is I hold my nose with

my fingers and blow to equalize the pressure...

> >>

This is standard technique for scuba divers to equalize pressure in their

ears when descending into INCREASING pressures. When ascending into

DECREASING pressure - also mountains and airplanes - - reverse the procedure

by holding the nose and INHALING to reduce the pressure in the middle ear.

Betsy (scuba instructor) in Miami

June 8, 2002

-am so sorry you had such a fall and hope it heals up soon. carol

On Sat, 08 Jun 2002 17:19:08 -0500 I-Chung Wang

<jwang@...> writes:

> Hello

>

> Well, I tripped over the power cable to my laptop, flew about ten

> feet

> and crumpled up against a filing cabinet late Thursday. Now, two

> fingers on my left hand have swollen to three times their regular

> size

> and one finger is a bit purple. I kinda think this is all normal

> for

> having landed on them at a bad angle and I've done the usual ice to

> keep

> the swelling down bit but I know that they say diabetics don't

> recover

> as well as regular people. Now that I'm diabetic, what do I have

> to

> look forward to in recovering from such sprains and injuries?

>

> I had a hell of a time clipping my nails, I did all my nails except

> my

> right hand, then I realized that I couldn't hold the clippers in my

> left

> hand well enough to clip my right hand. Ended up putting the

> clippers

> at the edge of a table, sticking my nails into them and pushing down

> on

> the clippers with my left hand.

>

> Regards,

>

> P.S.

> The laptop is fine, just required a removal of power and batteries

> to

> clear the amber " something is really wrong " light.

>

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June 9, 2002

Hi ,

Your purple finger worries me. As a fellow diabetic I will strongly propose

that you see a doc if you do not feel better in 1-2 days or if the fingers

change colour. However I feel that you had experienced a very bad hit, and

I'm sure it will heal real soon! Just remember to keep your sugar levels

under control to aid in a speedier recovery.

Regards,

Ling

<<Well, I tripped over the power cable to my laptop, flew about ten feet

and crumpled up against a filing cabinet late Thursday. Now, two

fingers on my left hand have swollen to three times their regular size

and one finger is a bit purple. I kinda think this is all normal for

having landed on them at a bad angle and I've done the usual ice to keep

the swelling down bit but I know that they say diabetics don't recover

as well as regular people. Now that I'm diabetic, what do I have to

look forward to in recovering from such sprains and injuries?

I had a hell of a time clipping my nails, I did all my nails except my

right hand, then I realized that I couldn't hold the clippers in my left

hand well enough to clip my right hand. Ended up putting the clippers

at the edge of a table, sticking my nails into them and pushing down on

the clippers with my left hand.

Regards, >>

June 11, 2002

Dear , hope you're all healed up by now. At least you didnt

break the skin, I think the main concern would be infection then. Do

try to keep your BS down, to heal. & careful with ice on the fingers

too long. I'll bet sleeping is not fun, if you dont have em up on a

pillow. Hope you're Rt handed. Had to laugh- ps the laptop is ok. How

are you?

Love,

> Hello

>

> Well, I tripped over the power cable to my laptop, flew about ten

feet

> and crumpled up against a filing cabinet late Thursday. Now, two

> fingers on my left hand have swollen to three times their regular

size

> and one finger is a bit purple. I kinda think this is all normal

for

> having landed on them at a bad angle and I've done the usual ice to

keep

> the swelling down bit but I know that they say diabetics don't

recover

> as well as regular people. Now that I'm diabetic, what do I have

to

> look forward to in recovering from such sprains and injuries?

>

> I had a hell of a time clipping my nails, I did all my nails except

my

> right hand, then I realized that I couldn't hold the clippers in my

left

> hand well enough to clip my right hand. Ended up putting the

clippers

> at the edge of a table, sticking my nails into them and pushing

down on

> the clippers with my left hand.

>

> Regards,

>

> P.S.

> The laptop is fine, just required a removal of power and batteries

to

> clear the amber " something is really wrong " light.

June 12, 2002

Oh how are you doing now?!!? I've actually done that before just over

the cord of my neb. and into the wall. So sorry you got hurt!!!! ( Let us

know how you are doing!!!

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-Jessi

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solve. " -- Lewin

June 12, 2002

Oh how are you doing now?!!? I've actually done that before just over

the cord of my neb. and into the wall. So sorry you got hurt!!!! ( Let us

know how you are doing!!!

( *)=

{ ~~ )

Jmducky@...

-Jessi

" Too often we give children answers to remember rather than problems to

solve. " -- Lewin

June 12, 2002

Hello

Yep, I'm right handed. The swelling has gone down somewhat, I would

say that the two fingers are now only twice their normal sizes instead

of three times. There's still a splotch of purple on the index finger

but most of the purple is gone. Some yellow patches appeared on the

back of the fingers for a little while but they're gone now. Basically

the fingers are really stiff and hurt only when I try to use them.

It's hard not to use your fingers.

I'm thinking of getting one of those vial attachments so that I can draw

the insulin one handed since it's very difficult otherwise. Of course,

by the time I get it, I won't need it.

I didn't even know that the laptop had a hardware error light on the

back that goes on if something major is wrong.

paulsons5 wrote:

> Dear , hope you're all healed up by now. At least you didnt

>break the skin, I think the main concern would be infection then. Do

>try to keep your BS down, to heal. & careful with ice on the fingers

>too long. I'll bet sleeping is not fun, if you dont have em up on a

>pillow. Hope you're Rt handed. Had to laugh- ps the laptop is ok. How

>are you?

>Love,

>

>...

>

June 12, 2002

Hello

Yep, I'm right handed. The swelling has gone down somewhat, I would

say that the two fingers are now only twice their normal sizes instead

of three times. There's still a splotch of purple on the index finger

but most of the purple is gone. Some yellow patches appeared on the

back of the fingers for a little while but they're gone now. Basically

the fingers are really stiff and hurt only when I try to use them.

It's hard not to use your fingers.

I'm thinking of getting one of those vial attachments so that I can draw

the insulin one handed since it's very difficult otherwise. Of course,

by the time I get it, I won't need it.

I didn't even know that the laptop had a hardware error light on the

back that goes on if something major is wrong.

paulsons5 wrote:

> Dear , hope you're all healed up by now. At least you didnt

>break the skin, I think the main concern would be infection then. Do

>try to keep your BS down, to heal. & careful with ice on the fingers

>too long. I'll bet sleeping is not fun, if you dont have em up on a

>pillow. Hope you're Rt handed. Had to laugh- ps the laptop is ok. How

>are you?

>Love,

>

>...

>

June 12, 2002

Hello Jessi

Thanks for your concern... I think the fingers are getting better but they

still hurt. I've been losing a lot of weight recently but I think it's

because the Cardiologist switched my Cozaar to Hyzaar which is probably a

good thing since we had stopped all the diurectics back when I was

hospitalized with the high BS. I would've thought that it would make more

sense to reintroduce the diurectics I used to take like Aldactone and

Demadex but they want to do a combined med like Hyzaar.

Regards,

Re: Flying

Oh how are you doing now?!!? I've actually done that before just over

the cord of my neb. and into the wall. So sorry you got hurt!!!! ( Let us

know how you are doing!!!

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Jmducky@...

-Jessi

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June 12, 2002

Hello Jessi

Thanks for your concern... I think the fingers are getting better but they

still hurt. I've been losing a lot of weight recently but I think it's

because the Cardiologist switched my Cozaar to Hyzaar which is probably a

good thing since we had stopped all the diurectics back when I was

hospitalized with the high BS. I would've thought that it would make more

sense to reintroduce the diurectics I used to take like Aldactone and

Demadex but they want to do a combined med like Hyzaar.

Regards,

Re: Flying

Oh how are you doing now?!!? I've actually done that before just over

the cord of my neb. and into the wall. So sorry you got hurt!!!! ( Let us

know how you are doing!!!

( *)=

{ ~~ )

Jmducky@...

-Jessi

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June 16, 2002

My Goodness !!! Are you all right Now??? Have you had your hand

x-rayed??? Sounds like yu broke it!!! Is it still so swollen and purple???

Now I know you like flying !!! But next time, how about doing it with an

Airplane!!! ) Glad the computer landed alright ) How are you doing

otherwise???

((( Careful Hugs )))

Helen

> Hello

>

> Well, I tripped over the power cable to my laptop, flew about ten feet

> and crumpled up against a filing cabinet late Thursday. Now, two

> fingers on my left hand have swollen to three times their regular size

> and one finger is a bit purple. I kinda think this is all normal for

> having landed on them at a bad angle and I've done the usual ice to keep

> the swelling down bit but I know that they say diabetics don't recover

> as well as regular people. Now that I'm diabetic, what do I have to

> look forward to in recovering from such sprains and injuries?

>

> I had a hell of a time clipping my nails, I did all my nails except my

> right hand, then I realized that I couldn't hold the clippers in my left

> hand well enough to clip my right hand. Ended up putting the clippers

> at the edge of a table, sticking my nails into them and pushing down on

> the clippers with my left hand.

>

> Regards,

>

> P.S.

> The laptop is fine, just required a removal of power and batteries to

> clear the amber " something is really wrong " light.

>

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June 21, 2002

Oh ! How are you doing now?

Hugs,

Flying

Hello

Well, I tripped over the power cable to my laptop, flew about ten feet