New Here!

[Guest guest]

You took the words right out of my mouth Robin.... Thanks! It's

still all new to me,and I,myself am learning to accept it,and do not

want to be treated any different,and I feel like every person I

choose to tell will be a judgement call. God bless!

Mike

> >

> > Hi every one!

> >

> > I just joined moments ago.Just want to introduce myself.

> >

> > My name is Mike.I am 54 years ago.Separated for three

years.But,have

> > a wonderful girlfriend who supports me.Even though I have been

> > recently diagnosed with Hep-C.I thank God for her.

> >

> > Even though I have really no visibaly symptoms of the disease

right

> > now.I probably have had it since 1974.The result from using a

> > community IV needle while with the US Army in Germany. I had Hep

> > back then.But,since then,I never was tested for Hep-C till

recently.

> >

> > I really do not know about telling people I work with about it.

I

> > really have no idea how they will react.I have told the close

family

> > members and most of my friends.They are great about it.I was

just

> > wondering how you folks.Especially,those who have a job and

> > coworkers have been accepted since revealing the disease.

> >

> > I am a christian.I love the Lord alot.

> >

> > I would really appreciate fellowshipping with those of you in

this

> > group.By e-mail,or even here.I am not on the computer alot.Just

when

> > I get here at my girlfriends.But,will respond as soon as I can.

> >

> > Thank you for allowing me to be a part,and I look forward to

what

> > this group has to offer.

> >

> > Mike

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are very lucky there Mike with your employment.

After going thru treatment and working the whole time, my boss decided that

she should remind me that I was lucky to have a job with my condition. I

was thinking about leaving anyways during treatment but her comments were

the last straw that broke the camels back. I was sick and tired of being

sick and tired, that I wanted to live and do something with my life and

where I was it was never going to happen. Where I am now is a thousands

times better, I enjoy going to work everyday and it keeps getting better.

Lynne

[ ] Re: New Here!

Thanks! Lynne.The good thing about it with me in regard to my place of

employment. I do not have health insurance there.Probably,never will. The

wages aren't anything to brag about,and the insurance is hardly worth the

premium.So,if it wasn't for the blessings of the possible culprit (Army).I

would not have never known at this time I am infected.It was through a

routine check up at the VA I was diagnosed with Hep-C.When,I learned about

the different situations that suggest a test.I found I needed to get

tested.So,that helps alot that I am under VA treatment.Also,pertaining to my

job. A good thing there.We all carry rubber gloves should a bleeding

incident occur.Every one was trained for a bleeding situation.Thank you!

Lynne,for the output. By the way...Any one here from NC?

Mike

> >

> > Hey Bill!

> >

> > Thanks! I kinda figured that.I really do not know where I stand

> with

> > this yet.I am waiting for the VA to do some follow up

testing,advising

> > and treatment.The first tests seem to show no damage as of

yet,and I

> > believe I have had it since about 1974.I

> feel

> > like at my age,and where I am with Hep-C.It probably will not be

> the

> > cause of my demise.But,anyways.THANKS! The security office I work

> at

> > has a bathroom,and I do not need to have that problem.I

appreciate

> > this group. I will not be here all of the time.Probably,be the

> first

> > of the week before I can get back online.But,I look forward to

> > catching up on the messages then...

> >

> > God Bless!

> > Mike

> >

> > >

> > > > Hi every one!

> > > >

> > > > I just joined moments ago.Just want to introduce myself.

> > > >

> > > > My name is Mike.I am 54 years ago.Separated for three

> > > > years.But,have a wonderful girlfriend who supports me.Even

though

> > > > I have been recently diagnosed with Hep-C.I thank God for

her.

> > > >

> > > > Even though I have really no visibaly symptoms of the

disease

> > > > right now.I probably have had it since 1974.The result from

using

> > > > a community IV needle while with the US Army in Germany. I

had Hep

> > > > back then.But,since then,I never was tested for Hep-C till

> > > > recently.

> > > >

> > > > I really do not know about telling people I work with about

it. I

> > > > really have no idea how they will react.I have told the

close

> > > > family members and most of my friends.They are great about

it.I

> > > > was just wondering how you folks.Especially,those who have a

job

> > > > and coworkers have been accepted since revealing the disease.

> > > >

> > > > I am a christian.I love the Lord alot.

> > > >

> > > > I would really appreciate fellowshipping with those of you

in this

> > > > group.By e-mail,or even here.I am not on the computer

alot.Just

> > > > when I get here at my girlfriends.But,will respond as soon

as I

> > > > can.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for allowing me to be a part,and I look forward to

what

> > > > this group has to offer.

> > > >

> > > > Mike

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > __________________________________

> > > - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

http://mail.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I do believe you are right about that Lynne. My job,being MALL

SECURITY does require a certain amount of first aid training,and we

had to be because of infectious diseases is a good thing,I guess. I

work third shift and do not really see to much action from that

stand point.But,we do have a bar at the mall that closes late,and

our regular overnight employees,etc. Hopefully,the VA will take care

of my condition,or the most part of it. However,I am deeply praying

about telling my church folks. We are a very small group,and I have

always felt like a family member there. I travel over an hour to get

there.So,if they suddenly change their views of me. I guess I would

just find one closer to home.But,I really think they are the type of

people who will hold me up in prayer.Anyways,life does go on,and we

as Hep-C patients are human,and are the same people we was and

created by God.I can live with that Lynne.

Mike

> > >

> > > Hey Bill!

> > >

> > > Thanks! I kinda figured that.I really do not know where I stand

> > with

> > > this yet.I am waiting for the VA to do some follow up

> testing,advising

> > > and treatment.The first tests seem to show no damage as of

> yet,and I

> > > believe I have had it since about 1974.I

> > feel

> > > like at my age,and where I am with Hep-C.It probably will not

be

> > the

> > > cause of my demise.But,anyways.THANKS! The security office I

work

> > at

> > > has a bathroom,and I do not need to have that problem.I

> appreciate

> > > this group. I will not be here all of the time.Probably,be the

> > first

> > > of the week before I can get back online.But,I look forward to

> > > catching up on the messages then...

> > >

> > > God Bless!

> > > Mike

> > >

> > > >

> > > > > Hi every one!

> > > > >

> > > > > I just joined moments ago.Just want to introduce myself.

> > > > >

> > > > > My name is Mike.I am 54 years ago.Separated for three

> > > > > years.But,have a wonderful girlfriend who supports me.Even

> though

> > > > > I have been recently diagnosed with Hep-C.I thank God for

> her.

> > > > >

> > > > > Even though I have really no visibaly symptoms of the

> disease

> > > > > right now.I probably have had it since 1974.The result from

> using

> > > > > a community IV needle while with the US Army in Germany. I

> had Hep

> > > > > back then.But,since then,I never was tested for Hep-C till

> > > > > recently.

> > > > >

> > > > > I really do not know about telling people I work with about

> it. I

> > > > > really have no idea how they will react.I have told the

> close

> > > > > family members and most of my friends.They are great about

> it.I

> > > > > was just wondering how you folks.Especially,those who have

a

> job

> > > > > and coworkers have been accepted since revealing the

disease.

> > > > >

> > > > > I am a christian.I love the Lord alot.

> > > > >

> > > > > I would really appreciate fellowshipping with those of you

> in this

> > > > > group.By e-mail,or even here.I am not on the computer

> alot.Just

> > > > > when I get here at my girlfriends.But,will respond as soon

> as I

> > > > > can.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for allowing me to be a part,and I look forward

to

> what

> > > > > this group has to offer.

> > > > >

> > > > > Mike

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________

> > > > - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> http://mail.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hi Dennis

I am origionally from Maine. I miss it alot. I have been in NC since

1989. I know it's just got to be awesome with those leaves up there

now.

I hope things work out for you. I had thought of retiring there.

But,probably not. I have a pretty fine southern gal here.

Mike

> >

> > > Hi out there:

> > >

> > > Even though I've not been actively involved in all

> > > the correspondence for the

> > > past couple of years, I've always enjoyed reading

> > > all of the posts from all

> > > of you old guys. I'm perplexed that I haven't heard

> > > anything from Jan, Terry,

> > > DZ, Sharon, Diane, Dennis, and all of you

> > > other guys lately. What's

> > > going on? I'm particularly concerned about Jan and

> > > any of you who have been

> > > exposed to the hurricane. Please let me know about

> > > why the sudden silence?

> > >

> > > Gordon

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________

> > - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> > http://mail.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

...thanks for asking that question about fatigue and Kathy thanks for

answering it. I have been Soooooooo tired and reasoned that it was from

pretending that I was not in so much pain. I put alot of effort into that so

that my special needs daughter won't be worried and also so that I don't bring

people down. It helps me somehow to know that it's part of it. Now I just need

to figure out what to do about it. This ultracet has helped but I don't want to

depend on it. And the pain meds make me tired too...just a different kind of

tired. Is there a pain med for bad days that does not make you so tired? Does

anyone know of one....or two? ....keep your head up and lets be thankful

that we found a place to get information. There is such an open, caring

atmosphere on this site. I don't feel so alone with it now. -Betz

cdmarie57 <cstoll@...> wrote: Hello everyone,

I was diagnosed with PA this winter, although I suspected it a year

ago. I have had psoriasis (scalp) for years and a few patches here

and there. I always considered myself lucky because no one could see

my patches. Well, the toes started swelling up last summer, sausage

toes!

I had my 1st visit with a rhematologist this month. For starters he

put me on Relafen and gave me reading material to choose which drug I

want to take for the PA. Choices are methotrexate, humira, enbrel, &

sulfasalazine. I dread taking any of them because seems like it is

always a trade-off. You treat one symptom and develop complaints with

the side effects.

I am hoping to educate myself here before my next appt. in 3 weeks.

I will get my blood work results at that appt.

I have to wonder if my recent fatigue and other problems might be

related. I have lost my usual energy the past 6 months. I try not to

beat myself up over not getting up to go to the gym on mornings when

I just can't get going. I have noticed I wear out so easily during

the day. Is this a part of PA???

Thanks for reading this,

[Editor's Note: Yes, , fatigue is one of the classic symptoms of PA and a

host of other diseases. Please don't feel that by taking one of the medications

that you mentioned above that you will automatically have side effects. Most of

us don't. If you have questions about a specific drug, please let us know.

Kathy F.

[Guest guest]

I was diagnosed ith PsAnDecember although, like you, I've had it for

a while. I unfortunately waited until I could barely move. I'm on a

combo of Humira and Methotrexate. Don't be scared of the side

effects. I get a bloodtest every few months for check-up,but nothing

has happened adversly.I do feel better though. Obviously everyone

acts differenlt towards meds. , but I wouldn'y worry too much about

the side effects.

>

> Hello everyone,

>

> I was diagnosed with PA this winter, although I suspected it a

year

> ago. I have had psoriasis (scalp) for years and a few patches here

> and there. I always considered myself lucky because no one could

see

> my patches. Well, the toes started swelling up last summer, sausage

> toes!

> I had my 1st visit with a rhematologist this month. For starters

he

> put me on Relafen and gave me reading material to choose which drug

I

> want to take for the PA. Choices are methotrexate, humira, enbrel,

&

> sulfasalazine. I dread taking any of them because seems like it is

> always a trade-off. You treat one symptom and develop complaints

with

> the side effects.

> I am hoping to educate myself here before my next appt. in 3

weeks.

> I will get my blood work results at that appt.

> I have to wonder if my recent fatigue and other problems might

be

> related. I have lost my usual energy the past 6 months. I try not

to

> beat myself up over not getting up to go to the gym on mornings

when

> I just can't get going. I have noticed I wear out so easily during

> the day. Is this a part of PA???

> Thanks for reading this,

>

>

> [Editor's Note: Yes, , fatigue is one of the classic symptoms

of PA and a host of other diseases. Please don't feel that by taking

one of the medications that you mentioned above that you will

automatically have side effects. Most of us don't. If you have

questions about a specific drug, please let us know. Kathy F.

>

[Guest guest]

> Now, she's swung the opposite direction. Her stools are very loose.

There are *always*

> undigested bits of whatever she ate the day before. Just yesterday

there was a large piece

> of mushroom in her stool (guess she's not chewing enough).

Might be a chewing problem. Might be an intolerance problem. For my

kids, if there was undigested foods in the bm, it meant they did not

tolerate that food. Enzymes helped with some foods, but not all.

>>She is also an atrocious sleeper. Some nights she wakes 2, 3, 4

times. And she

> only sleeps 9-10 hours a night, if we're lucky.

This can be food issues, especially milk, corn, and phenols

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>>Does this seem like something a broad spectrum

> enzyme might help with.

Yes. You might want to consider Zyme Prime from HNI

http://www.houstonni.com/

Dana

[Guest guest]

Nuts are very difficult to digest and so is corn. Prunes and raisins can

make a diarrhea situation worse.

Check out the SCD - Specific Carbohydrate Diet.

http://www.pecanbread.com/

Lynn

[Guest guest]

Dana,

Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should use the HN Zyme Prime or just the

Zyme

Prime?

In terms of what to expect I read that while adjusting some kids experience

loose stools.

Since she already has those can I expect them to get looser?

: ) Carren

> > Now, she's swung the opposite direction. Her stools are very loose.

> There are *always*

> > undigested bits of whatever she ate the day before. Just yesterday

> there was a large piece

> > of mushroom in her stool (guess she's not chewing enough).

>

>

> Might be a chewing problem. Might be an intolerance problem. For my

> kids, if there was undigested foods in the bm, it meant they did not

> tolerate that food. Enzymes helped with some foods, but not all.

>

>

> >>She is also an atrocious sleeper. Some nights she wakes 2, 3, 4

> times. And she

> > only sleeps 9-10 hours a night, if we're lucky.

>

>

> This can be food issues, especially milk, corn, and phenols

>

> http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>

>

> >>Does this seem like something a broad spectrum

> > enzyme might help with.

>

>

> Yes. You might want to consider Zyme Prime from HNI

>

> http://www.houstonni.com/

>

> Dana

>

[Guest guest]

> Thanks for the reply. Do you think I should use the HN Zyme Prime

or just the Zyme

> Prime?

If your child has problems with papain or bromelain [papaya or

pineapple], use the version without those ingredients. Otherwise it

does not matter.

> In terms of what to expect I read that while adjusting some kids

experience loose stools.

> Since she already has those can I expect them to get looser?

Usually a child with a loose bm will have a firmer bm.

Dana

[Guest guest]

If you go to the Houston Nutraceutical site (houstonni.com) you can find

dosage info as well as other info.

When you buy the enzymes from the site they include dosage information with

the enzymes.

[Guest guest]

>>He has had eczema since the vaccines. Fortunately, it is nowhere as

severe as it was in his early years, but he seems to have traded its

more severe symptoms for hayfever. This child is constantly

congested. And he has some sort of autistic spectrum disorder with

all the accompanying sensory issues.

All of the issues above, can be caused by food intolerance, and for my

kids, food intolerance was caused by metal toxicity from the mercury

in their vaccinations. Enzymes should help with many of these issues.

> 1) How do I determine which kind of enzymes to buy? Does brand matter?

It depends on what foods they eat, and what foods they don't tolerate.

I used HNI enzymes with much success

http://www.houstonni.com/

> 2. How do I begin to dose him?

I would choose one enzyme, and give 1/2 of it with lunch one day. See

how your children react.

> 3. Is he given the enzymes prior to each meal or at the start of

each meal?

Usually right before the meal, altho some kids need it a little earlier.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I will do that - this morning, since I am heading to the health food store this

aft! Thanks!

!

If you go to the Houston Nutraceutical site (houstonni.com) you can find

dosage info as well as other info.

When you buy the enzymes from the site they include dosage information with

the enzymes.

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Dana. I appreciate your input so much. We have spent the last 10

years of my son's life chasing around trying all sorts of things and I'm

beginning to think maybe enzymes were the answer all along.

[Guest guest]

Hi Welcome Dana,

My dd is 3.5 yo! We aren't going through of lot of school stuff yet, but I'm

sure you will get lots of help here!

- C.

Mom to Cassie 15 PCOS, Austin 13 ADHD and a 3 HFA/AS & SPD/SID

( ) New Here!

Hi! My name is Dana and I have a soon to be 7 year old daughter with

Aspergers. She is currently in a first grade all autism class (which

she absolutely does not belong in.) We are working on getting her in a

general education class. I am looking to communicate with other

parents who are going through similar things. Looking forward to

hearing from ya'll.

Thanks,

Dana

mom to:

6 & 1/2 years old

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana, welcome to this group. My grandson who is 14 is in a special school but

he is the only Asperger kid in his room this yr. There are only 6 other kids in

his room. He was in reg school but did not do well there. He seemed overwhelmed.

He does so much better now. Take care,Betty

elizabethsautism <elizabethsautism@...> wrote:

Hi! My name is Dana and I have a soon to be 7 year old daughter with

Aspergers. She is currently in a first grade all autism class (which

she absolutely does not belong in.) We are working on getting her in a

general education class. I am looking to communicate with other

parents who are going through similar things. Looking forward to

hearing from ya'll.

Thanks,

Dana

mom to:

6 & 1/2 years old

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[Guest guest]

I have a 5 year old in kindergarten and is in a special education

class. The academics are the same but the class has 8 kids, a teacher

and aide. My daughter is probably the only one with autism but the

other kids are mostly likely ADHD or developmental delay. She was in

an inclusion class for preschool and I was upset that there was no

combined class for kindergarten. So I enrolled her in a private

kindergarten in the afternoon. I wanted to make sure she spent time

with NT kids also. She is excelling in both classes. So I want to

mainstream her to 1st grade but know the sp. ed. teacher still thinks

she needs his class. So I have decided to do what I feel is right and

have enrolled her in the private school for 1st grade. She was given a

one hour test to see if she was ready for the 1st grade cirriculum in a

regular class and passed in the top. She still has issues but the

small classroom size allows for this.

Jen

>

> Hi! My name is Dana and I have a soon to be 7 year old daughter with

> Aspergers. She is currently in a first grade all autism class (which

> she absolutely does not belong in.) We are working on getting her in

a

> general education class. I am looking to communicate with other

> parents who are going through similar things. Looking forward to

> hearing from ya'll.

> Thanks,

> Dana

> mom to:

> 6 & 1/2 years old

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dana, my son just turned 6 and is in an inclusive k-garten class. He's only

part-time but it's really working out well (so far!). What I'd recommend is

getting an IEP in place so he has the supports he needs (e.g. para, structure

etc...)

Rhonda

-------------- Original message from " elizabethsautism "

<elizabethsautism@...>: --------------

Hi! My name is Dana and I have a soon to be 7 year old daughter with

Aspergers. She is currently in a first grade all autism class (which

she absolutely does not belong in.) We are working on getting her in a

general education class. I am looking to communicate with other

parents who are going through similar things. Looking forward to

hearing from ya'll.

Thanks,

Dana

mom to:

6 & 1/2 years old

[Guest guest]

If you ever send her to a public school think about putting her on a 504. It

may be easier for them to accept and she will be in the mainstreamed

classroom. Just a suggestion because my son has never been in special ed and

he is doing fine.

_____

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of jennifer_thorson

Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 12:27 AM

Subject: ( ) Re: New Here!

I have a 5 year old in kindergarten and is in a special education

class. The academics are the same but the class has 8 kids, a teacher

and aide. My daughter is probably the only one with autism but the

other kids are mostly likely ADHD or developmental delay. She was in

an inclusion class for preschool and I was upset that there was no

combined class for kindergarten. So I enrolled her in a private

kindergarten in the afternoon. I wanted to make sure she spent time

with NT kids also. She is excelling in both classes. So I want to

mainstream her to 1st grade but know the sp. ed. teacher still thinks

she needs his class. So I have decided to do what I feel is right and

have enrolled her in the private school for 1st grade. She was given a

one hour test to see if she was ready for the 1st grade cirriculum in a

regular class and passed in the top. She still has issues but the

small classroom size allows for this.

Jen

>

> Hi! My name is Dana and I have a soon to be 7 year old daughter with

> Aspergers. She is currently in a first grade all autism class (which

> she absolutely does not belong in.) We are working on getting her in

a

> general education class. I am looking to communicate with other

> parents who are going through similar things. Looking forward to

> hearing from ya'll.

> Thanks,

> Dana

> mom to:

> 6 & 1/2 years old

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome to the group. My name is , mom of 13 (almost 14) diagnosed at age

2.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Gail Nowlan

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:16

PM

Subject: New here!

Hello! My name is Gail and we live in Didsbury Alberta. Our son

was diagnosed with JRA when he was 18 months old. Hard to

believe that was 1.5 years ago already. I'd love to connect with

other moms with young children who have JRA. Thanks! Gail

[Guest guest]

Wow! 11 years + since diagnoses - I'd love to hear more about how

things were since throughout her childhood and on. Please email me

privately so we can chat more - sejpotsmom@... Thanks, Gail

>

> Welcome to the group. My name is , mom of 13 (almost 14)

> diagnosed at age 2.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: [mailto: ] On

Behalf

> Of Gail Nowlan

> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:16 PM

>

> Subject: New here!

>

>

>

> Hello! My name is Gail and we live in Didsbury Alberta. Our son

> was diagnosed with JRA when he was 18 months old. Hard to

> believe that was 1.5 years ago already. I'd love to connect with

> other moms with young children who have JRA. Thanks! Gail

>

[Guest guest]

S <michelle_s18@...> wrote: Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 14:36:21 -0700

(PDT)

From: S <michelle_s18@...>

Subject: New here!

candidiasis Moderator <candidiasis-owner >

Hi everyone,

I just joined this list because I'm pretty sure I have candida. For years,

I've had digestive problems, bloating, sugar cravings, yeast infections and a

white tongue. I have little trust in doctors, so I never went to see one until

a few weeks back becuase I decided that the first step would be confirming the

candida, leaky gut and food allergies.

The ND I chose gave me a delayed reaction test (which said I'm highly

allergic to all dairy and eggs) and also a comprehensive stool analysis from

Genova labs. The lab results said I have no growth of specific strains of

beneficial bacteria, so she prescribed probiotics. The test said I do not have

candida. This came as a huge shock to me after battling this for years and

having so many of the symptoms, so I did some additional research online and

discovered after spending nearly $255 on the stool test that these test don't

always accurately diagnos candida.

I'm not sure what to do now. On monday, I'm getting the other allergy test

where it shows immediatly reactions and am wondering if I should also get a

blood test for candida. The diet is very strict and my problem is with all my

food allergies and the dietary restrictions for candida and leaky gut, I'll have

a difficult time maintaining the protocal, so I need to know if I can still eat

fruit and more than a small number of grains.

In addition to the probiotics, I'm also taking 2 grams of L-glutamine a day,

and 2 tablespoons of powdered slimpery elm bark (which my ND says will help

restore my leaky gut), and trying to do a regular relaxation/meditation to help

balance my stress levels.

From the internet, I ordered a bottled of pure powdered Nystatin and am

contemplating taking that 4 times per day, but am not sure if it'll hurt the

beneficial bacteria. I've read that Nystatin is completly harmless, but again

I'm stuck with wondering about the amount of grains I can eat and I do eat rice

or fruit, with they render the Nystatin useless. My weight is low so the last

time I did the candida diet (for 6 weeks) I lost a substantial amount of weight

and my husband mentioned anorexia!

Anyhow, thanks for reading (sorry this is so long, but it's nice to write this

all out!). I look forward to getting to know you all and learn from you.

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, if you were " severely allergic " to dairy and eggs, you'd

have gone into shock from it and raised an alarm when you were a

small child. Thus, your ND must be wrong in interpreting an allergy.

Your ND is also wrong in suggesting slippery elm to help restore

bowel lining; what it is is a well-known soother. Your ND is wrong in

her thinking that a probiotic will culture a beneficial ecology in

the gut without feeding it. Inulin is the correct feed for probiotic

organisms, it is precisely what is missing in the modern diet but

used to be in the staple foods, and the outcome of missing this food

is the bowel dysbiosis that leads to a bowel candida infestation.

As you become familiar with the science behind our protocol used by

this group, you will be in a position to show it to your ND and

educate her

Three strikes, I say; more useful advice is to forget your ND, and

spend your money on a decent diet. You can also forget testing for

food sensitivities because they will go away as you get better.

Don't eat any rice and watch the fruit too; both are high in

carbohydrates that feed bowel dysbiosis and candida. What you SHOULD

eat is lots of undenatured whey to prevent weight loss (like body

builders and people on this list do), use selenium, and add inulin,

which is the food for the probiotics, or high-inulin foods. The table

of high-inulin foods and the science of using it (or not) to restore

bowel ecology is here:

http://tinyurl.com/2m29z

Duncan

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008

14:36:21 -0700 (PDT)

> From: S <michelle_s18@...>

> Subject: New here!

> candidiasis Moderator <candidiasis-owner >

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just joined this list because I'm pretty sure I have candida.

For years, I've had digestive problems, bloating, sugar cravings,

yeast infections and a white tongue. I have little trust in doctors,

so I never went to see one until a few weeks back becuase I decided

that the first step would be confirming the candida, leaky gut and

food allergies.

>

> The ND I chose gave me a delayed reaction test (which said

I'm highly allergic to all dairy and eggs) and also a comprehensive

stool analysis from Genova labs. The lab results said I have no

growth of specific strains of beneficial bacteria, so she prescribed

probiotics. The test said I do not have candida. This came as a

huge shock to me after battling this for years and having so many of

the symptoms, so I did some additional research online and discovered

after spending nearly $255 on the stool test that these test don't

always accurately diagnos candida.

>

> I'm not sure what to do now. On monday, I'm getting the other

allergy test where it shows immediatly reactions and am wondering if

I should also get a blood test for candida. The diet is very strict

and my problem is with all my food allergies and the dietary

restrictions for candida and leaky gut, I'll have a difficult time

maintaining the protocal, so I need to know if I can still eat fruit

and more than a small number of grains.

>

> In addition to the probiotics, I'm also taking 2 grams of L-

glutamine a day, and 2 tablespoons of powdered slimpery elm bark

(which my ND says will help restore my leaky gut), and trying to do a

regular relaxation/meditation to help balance my stress levels.

>

> From the internet, I ordered a bottled of pure powdered Nystatin

and am contemplating taking that 4 times per day, but am not sure if

it'll hurt the beneficial bacteria. I've read that Nystatin is

completly harmless, but again I'm stuck with wondering about the

amount of grains I can eat and I do eat rice or fruit, with they

render the Nystatin useless. My weight is low so the last time I did

the candida diet (for 6 weeks) I lost a substantial amount of weight

and my husband mentioned anorexia!

>

> Anyhow, thanks for reading (sorry this is so long, but it's nice

to write this all out!). I look forward to getting to know you all

and learn from you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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If you keep eating foods that you are sensitive to though, won't

dramatically slow down healing? Sensitivities usually go away within

a couple of months if you refrain from that food for a while, but if

you keep eating something that causes inflammation or immune reaction,

doesn't that prolong healing?

I ask because I am on the brink of dropping $500 for a MRT test

because I am out of ideas.

greg

> Three strikes, I say; more useful advice is to forget your ND, and

> spend your money on a decent diet. You can also forget testing for

> food sensitivities because they will go away as you get better.

>

[Guest guest]

, you are wasting your money by releasing lactobacilli into a

vibrant bifidobacteria culture.

Your ND apparently doesn't know that bifidobacteria will outcompete

bowel ecology INCLUDING the numbers of lactobacillus. Further,

elderly subjects have above average values of lactobacilli AND

pathogens, as seen by the compiled chart on my inulin page here:

http://tinyurl.com/2m29z. What does that tell you about the efficacy

of lactobacillus?

Duncan

>

> Duncan,

>

> Thanks for your reply.

>

> I'll check out Inulin. One thing though is that the good bacteria

I'm low on is the Lactobacillus Strains, not the Bifodobacterium

(which came back as 4+). The Lactobacillius series came back as " no

growth. " My ND put me on Pharmax probiotics which have the Lacto

strains, plus two others, along with two others, to help build those

numbers up.

>

> Here's a link to that product:

>

> http://www.rockwellnutrition.com/product.asp?itemid=59 & catid=53

>

> Any thoughts on it? I'd like to add in a couple more brands of

probiotics to be sure that between the three, something is working!

>

> Also, what do you think about Nystatin in treating candida? Would

that be a priority, along with diet, before addressing the beneficial

bacteria or should I do both at different times of day?

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Duncan Crow <duncancrow@...>

> candidiasis

> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 5:34:06 PM

> S

> and add inulin,

> which is the food for the probiotics, or high-inulin foods. ubject:

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