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The standard numbers for normal are at level 3. It is normal for the

brachy number to be higher at the higher levels.

's asymmetry numbers are worse at level 5, and I do not like this,

since it is up high where I see the remaining plagio. I'm not sure how

typical it is for the asymmetry to be worse at the higher levels, and

how much worse would be normal.

I read a study where the brachy number went down, I think about 4%,

from age before 12 months to 48 months, but the plagio only went down

..4mm. (I don't know if this was the average drop or mean.) I don't

remember the details, and I don't think it was a formal study. The

study is on the internet.

-Kathy, mom to 23 months

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My ortho prints out my daughter's measurements at different levels

(3, 4, and 5). The numbers are worse above level 3. At which level are

the standard numbers for normal taken? Do I need to be concerned if the

brachy number (CR) is too high at level 4 if it is in the normal range

at level 3 for instance? Is this normal for the numbers to differ at

different levels?

I'm also curious if babies heads get longer as they age. To me all

babies seem to have big heads, so I would expect them to elongate as

they grow. From the posts I've read though, it sounds like they really

don't without a helmet or similar.

Thanks for everyone's feedback. I'm an information junkie on this

stuff. The more I know, the better I can figure out what to do since I

just don't trust my own eyes anymore and am really relying on the

numbers from the scan. I'm terrified I'm going to take the helmet off,

then realize too late that I shouldn't have.

Oh by the way, for fun, my ortho measured my head with calipers. I

think the old statistics are right -- my CR was 76.9%!

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P.S. I'm not sure I remembered the 4% correctly. There was a drop

though. The plagio part stuck in my head better since that is what I'm

dealing with.

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My ortho prints out my daughter's measurements at different levels

(3, 4, and 5). The numbers are worse above level 3. At which level are

the standard numbers for normal taken? Do I need to be concerned if the

brachy number (CR) is too high at level 4 if it is in the normal range

at level 3 for instance? Is this normal for the numbers to differ at

different levels?

I'm also curious if babies heads get longer as they age. To me all

babies seem to have big heads, so I would expect them to elongate as

they grow. From the posts I've read though, it sounds like they really

don't without a helmet or similar.

Thanks for everyone's feedback. I'm an information junkie on this

stuff. The more I know, the better I can figure out what to do since I

just don't trust my own eyes anymore and am really relying on the

numbers from the scan. I'm terrified I'm going to take the helmet off,

then realize too late that I shouldn't have.

Oh by the way, for fun, my ortho measured my head with calipers. I

think the old statistics are right -- my CR was 76.9%!

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How encouraging though (for the brachy number anyway)! I hope it's true! Do you

remember anything about the study? I'll try to find it out there on the

internet.

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> >

> > My ortho prints out my daughter's measurements at different levels (3,

> > 4, and 5). The numbers are worse above level 3. At which level are the

> > standard numbers for normal taken? Do I need to be concerned if the

> > brachy number (CR) is too high at level 4 if it is in the normal range

> > at level 3 for instance? Is this normal for the numbers to differ at

> > different levels?

> >

> > I'm also curious if babies heads get longer as they age. To me all

> > babies seem to have big heads, so I would expect them to elongate as

> > they grow. From the posts I've read though, it sounds like they really

> > don't without a helmet or similar.

> >

> > Thanks for everyone's feedback. I'm an information junkie on this

> > stuff. The more I know, the better I can figure out what to do since I

> > just don't trust my own eyes anymore and am really relying on the

> > numbers from the scan. I'm terrified I'm going to take the helmet off,

> > then realize too late that I shouldn't have.

> >

> > Oh by the way, for fun, my ortho measured my head with calipers. I

> > think the old statistics are right -- my CR was 76.9%!

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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I didn't see another answer to your post. It is the numbers at level 3 that count in terms of the norms. That is where the hand measurements are taken and what they look at to judge severity. However, the other numbers could be interesting in terms of seeing whether there are changes in the head that don't show up at level 3.

I've often though that looking at the measurements at several levels would be useful, if not for judging severity, for judging whether there has been improvement that we don't see at level 3. You can also ask your ortho to show you the 3D images on the screen to compare for improvement. Mine did that for me and it was great. At the end, she printed out the before and after 3D images from the side view for me.

, mom to , 2 2/3 years

STARband grad May 11, 2009 (one year tomorrow) Re: At what level do these measurements count?

How encouraging though (for the brachy number anyway)! I hope it's true! Do you remember anything about the study? I'll try to find it out there on the internet.> > > >> > My ortho prints out my daughter's measurements at different levels (3, > > 4, and 5). The numbers are worse above level 3. At which level are the > > standard numbers for normal taken? Do I need to be concerned if the > > brachy number (CR) is too high at level 4 if it is in the normal range > > at level 3 for instance? Is this normal for the numbers to differ at > > different levels?> >> > I'm also curious if babies heads get longer as they age. To me all > > babies seem to have big heads, so I would expect them to elongate as > > they grow. From the posts I've read though, it sounds like they really > > don't without a helmet or similar.> >> > Thanks for everyone's feedback. I'm an information junkie on this > > stuff. The more I know, the better I can figure out what to do since I > > just don't trust my own eyes anymore and am really relying on the > > numbers from the scan. I'm terrified I'm going to take the helmet off, > > then realize too late that I shouldn't have.> >> > Oh by the way, for fun, my ortho measured my head with calipers. I > > think the old statistics are right -- my CR was 76.9%!> >> > > >> >>

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