RE: Re: Fwd: Cafe Gratitude and gluten- a comment

[Guest guest]

Belatedly, I did a quick search on "food poisoning" (a very general term, I know). This is one entry I found, in e-medicine.com:

"Symptoms of food poisoning depend on the type of contaminant and the amount eaten. The symptoms can develop rapidly, within 30 minutes, or slowly, worsening over days to weeks."

Incidentally, the reason I went to the hospital when I felt nauseated was that I thought I might be having a heart attack. For women, the early symptoms of a heart attack may be very unlike those men have. Often, a woman thinks she has indigestion. Pain in the upper arm, back, jaw are common in women's heart attacks.

H.

[Guest guest]

FYI – regarding Café Gratitude…….I

have not eaten there yet….but I thought I should mention

A friend of mine ate lunch there on Friday

with her friend. On the way home from lunch she felt sick to her stomach and by

the time she got home she had to get sick. Her friend, that she had lunch with,

called her that same night and asked if she felt sick since she also had gotten

sick and thinks it is from the food. They intend to call the restaurant to warn

them about their reactions. Sorry – I don’t know specifically all

that they ordered, but I can find out if anyone needs to know. I think she said

she had Mediterranean style foods -falafel and hummus etc.

Granted that this is not me personally

making a review, just what I have heard. I know some others in this group had

commented that they did not feel good after eating there and were not sure if

it was a GF issue or due to the ‘raw’ factor.

Eileen

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of daynurse1

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007

10:32 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Fwd:

Cafe Gratitude and gluten... A question

Hello,

I'm new here and newly diagnosed Celiac. Could someone tell me where

Cafe Gratitude is?

Many thanks,

Peggy

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> From: engelhart@... <engelhart@...>

> Date: Feb 7, 2007 5:20 PM

> Subject: Re: Cafe Gratitude and gluten... A question

> Isaiah <isaiah.benjamin@...>

>

>

> yes it is true that we have fully integrated gluten free soy sauce.

Our

> miso is soy based and gluten free as well. enjoy!

>

[Guest guest]

This doesn't surprise me - I and several other people I know have

gotten sick after eating there, but it's not from food poisoning or

gluten, it's from the fact that all their food is raw. If you are not

accustomed to eating a raw foods diet, you may experience the food

acting like a scrub brush to your intestines, to put it lightly. Let's

just say the first time I ate there I spent the whole evening on the

toilet. I eat only desserts and their amazing juices there now for this

reason. Raw veggies just don't sit well with me.

I spoke to one of the waitresses there about the fact that my friend

and I, plus several other friends we talked to, had gotten sick and she

told me that usually when people start eating raw foods they should

start very slowly, eating only small amounts. People whose bodies

aren't used to all the roughage and insoluble (?) fiber often get sick

at first. I also know that my doctor told me people with sensitive

digestive systems (IBS, etc) shouldn't really eat raw vegetables... so

I've taken her advice by trying to avoid eating more than a little at a

time.

I also think that their food is so full of nuts that you are eating a

much higher proportion of nuts than most people eat in their diet -

Nuts are a rich and fatty food, which can also be hard to digest in

large quantities.

Anyway, I hope if she reasonably suspects food poisoning she'll report

it to the Department of Health so they can investigate and make sure

the restaurant is using good hygiene practices in their kitchen!

Just my 2 cents...

Isaiah

-- Gluten-Free By The Bayhttp://glutenfreebay.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

I’ve eaten there three times

(including yesterday), and never had any problem.

I’ve never felt more energized than

when I leave there!

Don’t know what to say on the

getting sick part, or even why raw foods would create a problem, but I’ve

always had a great experience there.

Just my two cents…

Lil

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of flatcat9@...

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007

8:37 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re:

Fwd: Cafe Gratitude and gluten- a comment

Belatedly, I did a quick search on " food

poisoning " (a very general term, I know). This is one entry I found,

in e-medicine.com:

" Symptoms of food poisoning depend on the type of contaminant

and the amount eaten. The symptoms can develop rapidly, within 30 minutes, or

slowly, worsening over days to weeks. "

Incidentally, the reason I went to the hospital when I felt nauseated was that

I thought I might be having a heart attack. For women, the early symptoms

of a heart attack may be very unlike those men have. Often, a woman

thinks she has indigestion. Pain in the upper arm, back, jaw are common in

women's heart attacks.

H.

[Guest guest]

I guess this must be why I don’t

have a problem there…

My discovery of celiac came on the heels

of a 21 day fast, and I could only eat raw foods right after…

So it’s no wonder it sits so well

with me…

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Isaiah

Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007

9:25 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re:

Fwd: Cafe Gratitude and gluten- a comment

This

doesn't surprise me - I and several other people I know have gotten sick after

eating there, but it's not from food poisoning or gluten, it's from the fact

that all their food is raw. If you are not accustomed to eating a raw foods

diet, you may experience the food acting like a scrub brush to your intestines,

to put it lightly. Let's just say the first time I ate there I spent the whole

evening on the toilet. I eat only desserts and their amazing juices there now

for this reason. Raw veggies just don't sit well with me.

I spoke to one of the waitresses there about the fact that my friend and I,

plus several other friends we talked to, had gotten sick and she told me that

usually when people start eating raw foods they should start very slowly,

eating only small amounts. People whose bodies aren't used to all the roughage

and insoluble (?) fiber often get sick at first. I also know that my doctor

told me people with sensitive digestive systems (IBS, etc) shouldn't really eat

raw vegetables... so I've taken her advice by trying to avoid eating more

than a little at a time.

I also think that their food is so full of nuts that you are eating a much

higher proportion of nuts than most people eat in their diet - Nuts are a rich

and fatty food, which can also be hard to digest in large quantities.

Anyway, I hope if she reasonably suspects food poisoning she'll report it to

the Department of Health so they can investigate and make sure the restaurant

is using good hygiene practices in their kitchen!

Just my 2 cents...

Isaiah

--

Gluten-Free By The Bay

http://glutenfreebay.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

I don’t know if anyone answered

this. There are 3 Café Gratitudes – the one in Berkeley is at 1730

Shattuck between Hearst and Cedar on the Bay side of the street. 2 in SF

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient & aq=t & ie=UTF-8 & rls=DKUS,DKUS:2006-27,DKUS:en & q=Cafe+Gratitude+san+francisco

Connie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Azalyne SkyeOlson

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007

12:32 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Fwd:

Cafe Gratitude and gluten- a comment

Hi there,

I too am curious were this Cafe is located?

-- Dannion Brinkley