Guest guest Posted August 3, 2002 Report Share Posted August 3, 2002 Not sure about Goya, but Thai Kitchen is OK and in most grocery stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2002 Report Share Posted August 13, 2002 I read somewhere that you could make coconut milk the same way you make nut milks. Buy organic dried coconut flakes, soak overnight, then put in a blender or preferably a VitaMix, and blend for about 1 minute. Strain and you have coconut milk! I have not tried it yet, but think I will sometime this week. Kat http://www.katking.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Kris Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: Re: Re: canning/pickling jars (was what do you soak grains in?) Where do you get the pure coconut milk? From fresh coconut? Peace, Kris , gardening in northwest Ohio > ------->i dunno...i think i tried it once. i just didn't like all the > ingredients...why do i need cornstarch when i can just have pure coconut > milk? i really LOVE the flavor of coconut milk, i'm just not crazy about > eating from cans, and who the heck knows if they use lead in the soldering? > hopefully i'll find out soon though because i just emailed them and asked. > will let you know what they say. > > > Suze Fisher > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg/ > mailto:s.fisher22@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2003 Report Share Posted August 27, 2003 > Do you know of a coconut milk that does not have preservatives? > It seems everyone I look at does. Diane, There is an organic coconut milk on the market, brand name " Native Forest " made by and Sons Trading Co. The ingredients listed are: Certified organic coconut milk, water, cornstarch, carrageenan, xanthan gum, citric acid. Citric acid is safe as far as preservatives go, but I do wish they would leave out the corn starch, as it is only used as a thickener. Connie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Suze- >it tastes a little sweet (and is very rich and creamy) but lists the >sugar content as " 0 " . (did we have this discussion before?) I too wonder about that, because the grams and calories don't add up on the side panel. (Well, I got coconut cream, not coconut milk, but they're quite similar.) It sure is tasty, though! I'm about to make some curried scallops with coconut cream. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Can't wait - I receive my order tomorrow. I ordered the coconut milk and the coconut cream... Gene From: " Suze Fisher " <s.fisher22@...> Reply- Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 12:32:09 -0500 " " < > Subject: coconut milk i just recevied my first order of coconut milk from wilderness family naturals and it is DELICIOUS! yummm....ingredients are coconut cream and water. it tastes a little sweet (and is very rich and creamy) but lists the sugar content as " 0 " . (did we have this discussion before?) in any case, i don't know if it's a " raw " product...anyone know? but would make a great dessert (as is) or base for a cream sauce. or just a rich fatty snack (it's mostly fat). CR folks need not apply (LOL) - it's very heavy in calories - 435 in 8 oz. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Suze, Yep the coconut is delicious. I about OD'd on it...chuckle chuckle. I was also curious about the sweet taste but noticed the Carb count also = 0 as well as the sugar count = 0. You should ask Annette your question about it being raw. I didn't bother to ask her that question. I suspect it might be heated but if it then great! The coconut water kefir'ed is great and very easy to make. -Vee > i just recevied my first order of coconut milk from wilderness family > naturals and it is DELICIOUS! yummm....ingredients are coconut cream and > water. it tastes a little sweet (and is very rich and creamy) but lists the > sugar content as " 0 " . (did we have this discussion before?) > > in any case, i don't know if it's a " raw " product...anyone know? but would > make a great dessert (as is) or base for a cream sauce. or just a rich fatty > snack (it's mostly fat). > > CR folks need not apply (LOL) - it's very heavy in calories - 435 in 8 oz. > > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " - - > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 >>>>Yep the coconut is delicious. I about OD'd on it...chuckle chuckle. I was also curious about the sweet taste but noticed the Carb count also = 0 as well as the sugar count = 0. ----->very odd, indeed. i wonder what could give it a sweet taste if it's jut fat and protein? or maybe it's incorrectly labeled... >>>You should ask Annette your question about it being raw. I didn't bother to ask her that question. I suspect it might be heated but if it then great! ----->michael told me it's not raw. oh well...still tastes amazing! Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 In a message dated 10/30/03 6:49:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, s.fisher22@... writes: > ----->very odd, indeed. i wonder what could give it a sweet taste if it's > jut fat and protein? or maybe it's incorrectly labeled... I don't know but butter is often sweet. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Suze, You've never tried Thai Kitchen? The 5.5 oz. can, only size they make now that is still pure, just coconut milk is sweet. Label says fat 9g, saturated 7g, carbs 1g, sugars 0g, protein 1g. Guar gum they now put in all the larger cans changes the flavor. Wanita >----->very odd, indeed. i wonder what could give it a sweet taste if it's >jut fat and protein? or maybe it's incorrectly labeled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Are any of these products a good substitute for sweetened condensed milk? Not that I use that product, but I've seen dessert recipes that I would consider making for a special occasion, but I would prefer a substitute for the condensed milk. Michele RE: Re: coconut milk >>>>Yep the coconut is delicious. I about OD'd on it...chuckle chuckle. I was also curious about the sweet taste but noticed the Carb count also = 0 as well as the sugar count = 0. ----->very odd, indeed. i wonder what could give it a sweet taste if it's jut fat and protein? or maybe it's incorrectly labeled... >>>You should ask Annette your question about it being raw. I didn't bother to ask her that question. I suspect it might be heated but if it then great! ----->michael told me it's not raw. oh well...still tastes amazing! Suze Fisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 You could try heavy cream and adding a bit more sweetener than normal. I sub heavy cream for evaporated milk all the time, and I'm guessing that the only difference, tastewise, with that and condensed is the sweetness factor. Re: Re: coconut milk Are any of these products a good substitute for sweetened condensed milk? Not that I use that product, but I've seen dessert recipes that I would consider making for a special occasion, but I would prefer a substitute for the condensed milk. Michele RE: Re: coconut milk >>>>Yep the coconut is delicious. I about OD'd on it...chuckle chuckle. I was also curious about the sweet taste but noticed the Carb count also = 0 as well as the sugar count = 0. ----->very odd, indeed. i wonder what could give it a sweet taste if it's jut fat and protein? or maybe it's incorrectly labeled... >>>You should ask Annette your question about it being raw. I didn't bother to ask her that question. I suspect it might be heated but if it then great! ----->michael told me it's not raw. oh well...still tastes amazing! Suze Fisher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Wow the shipping prices are really high. That's too bad, I almost ordered some coconut milk. Michele Re: coconut milk Can't wait - I receive my order tomorrow. I ordered the coconut milk and the coconut cream... Gene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 In a message dated 10/30/03 7:45:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, s.fisher22@... writes: > ---->maybe there is a fatty acid that creates a swee taste??? > wow...whatever > it is...move over stevia! (which i decidedly don't like. LOL) Wow, this never occurred to me before, but if you think of sugars, their sweetness is proportional to the quickness with which they'll yield energy. For example, honey is considerably sweeter than maple syrup or sucrose, and it contains all monosacharides rather than disacharides. I personally think maple syrup is a little sweeter than sucrose too, but this is more subtle, but if it's true, it could be because it is glucose-glucose instead of glucose-fructose. And obviously, starch, which is just long strings of glucose, has little sweetness. Butter has small amounts of MCT and I think short-chain too, and coconut is mostly MCT and some SCT too I think. And MCTs and SCTs are more likely to enter the krebs cycle than get stored or used for functional purposes compared to other fats, so perhaps they offer some sweetness. That would explain why butter is mildly sweet, despite being essentiall carb-free, and coconut milk/cream is *very* sweet, despite being the same! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 >>>>You've never tried Thai Kitchen? The 5.5 oz. can, only size they make now that is still pure, just coconut milk is sweet. Label says fat 9g, saturated 7g, carbs 1g, sugars 0g, protein 1g. Guar gum they now put in all the larger cans changes the flavor. ----->yes, i used to use that quite a bit in my smoothies, i don't recall it being very sweet, but i guess now that i think about it, it IS a little sweet. i must say though that i couldn't possibly go back to that after tasting the stuff from WFN. LOL Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 >>>>Are any of these products a good substitute for sweetened condensed milk? Not that I use that product, but I've seen dessert recipes that I would consider making for a special occasion, but I would prefer a substitute for the condensed milk. ----->i have no idea, but i guess it's probably a similar consistency - thick and creamy. the taste is great, so if you don't mind a coconut taste in your recipe i think it would be worth a try. or maybe the coconut *cream* that paul has, which has no water added. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Suze- That cream is *incredible*. I just made the NT recipe for chicken coconut soup, except with goose stock and coconut cream (and some roast goose thrown in) and it was sublime, much better than when I used to make it with Thai Kitchen crap. >or maybe the coconut *cream* >that paul has, which has no water added. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 >>>>>That cream is *incredible*. I just made the NT recipe for chicken coconut soup, except with goose stock and coconut cream (and some roast goose thrown in) and it was sublime, much better than when I used to make it with Thai Kitchen crap. ----->well, next time i think i'll order the coconut cream, mainly because i don't see any reason to buy coconut cream + water, which is what the coconut milk is. i bet the taste is probably the same...sounds delicious with the goose stock! Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Suze- It sure was! And for whatever (blessed) reason, both my goose and beef stocks gelled very nicely this time. I'm going to try the chicken coconut soup recipe with beef and beef stock tomorrow. >sounds delicious with the >goose stock! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 > ----->very odd, indeed. i wonder what could give it a sweet taste if it's > jut fat and protein? or maybe it's incorrectly labeled... >>>>I don't know but butter is often sweet. ---->maybe there is a fatty acid that creates a swee taste??? wow...whatever it is...move over stevia! (which i decidedly don't like. LOL) Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Re: Re: coconut milk In a message dated 10/30/03 6:49:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, s.fisher22@... writes: > ----->very odd, indeed. i wonder what could give it a sweet taste if it's > jut fat and protein? or maybe it's incorrectly labeled... I don't know but butter is often sweet. Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Chris- By that logic, coconut oil would be sweet, but it's not. >That would explain why butter is mildly sweet, despite being essentiall >carb-free, and coconut milk/cream is *very* sweet, despite being the same! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2003 Report Share Posted October 31, 2003 Quoting ChrisMasterjohn@...: > In a message dated 10/30/03 7:45:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, > s.fisher22@... writes: > > > ---->maybe there is a fatty acid that creates a swee taste??? > > wow...whatever > > it is...move over stevia! (which i decidedly don't like. LOL) > > Wow, this never occurred to me before, but if you think of sugars, their > sweetness is proportional to the quickness with which they'll yield > energy. I've always assumed that there was a purely mechanical explanation for it. When two sugars are bound together, only one of them can make contact with a taste bud at any given time. When they're separated, both can. This also explains why starch is not perceptibly sweet--only one of the monomers can make contact with a taste bud. This is just conjecture on my part, though. > I personally think maple syrup is a little sweeter than sucrose too, > but this is more subtle, but if it's true, it could be because it is > glucose-glucose instead of glucose-fructose. Fructose is sweeter than glucose (because it fits better, I guess), though, so that doesn't make sense. In fact, I've heard that glucose is actually slightly less sweet than sucrose. Here's a chart of relative sweetnesses (not sure how accurate it is, though, because I found some others, and the numbers were all over the place): http://class.fst.ohio-state.edu/FST201/MEM/carbohyd.htm > Butter has small amounts of MCT and I think short-chain too, and coconut > is mostly MCT and some SCT too I think. Coconut oil is mostly MCFA, but I think that it's actually quite low in MCTs (Heidi said 7% a while ago--I'm not sure how accurate that is). An MCT, as I understand it, is a triglyceride with three medium-chain fatty acids. An oil could be more than 50% MCFA and still contain no MCTs at all, if each triglyceride has two MCFAs and one LCFA. > That would explain why butter is mildly sweet, despite being essentiall > carb-free, and coconut milk/cream is *very* sweet, despite being the > same! Butter still does contain a small amount of sugar, though, and coconut milk contains quite a bit. Even if the label says 0g, there could be as much as half a gram of sugar. Also, didn't you say that acetic acid can be burned fairly readily? -- Berg bberg@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Kari, You can get the coconut milk in a lite version. I have a can of Hokan Coconut Milk Lite that has 5 g fat per 1/4 cup. Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Thanks Ann, I'll consider that. But by doing so much diet restrictions keeping her right sized little body from losing weight actually has been a concern of mine. I was hoping to be able to use this as a fattening staple for her. But perhaps the full fat is just too much for her system, and lite would still be fatty and give all the other benefits. Definitely worth a try! At least after her experience she isn't turned off by it. Just truly a case of empting her stomach. Of course if it happens again I guess that would be a sign that it's more than just the high fat and she can't handle it. Thanks again, Kari > Kari, > > You can get the coconut milk in a lite version. I have a can of Hokan > Coconut Milk Lite that has 5 g fat per 1/4 cup. > > Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 Kari, I give coconut juice called Buko juice, which is the coconut water from young coconuts. It is very alkalinizing to the body because it is high in potassium and contains other alkalinizing minerals like calcium and magnesium. It is very similar in pH to the blood and is very similar to cell salts. It also contains cytokinins, which are protective factors to the cells as they undergo cell mitosis (cell division). Lots of research is being done on cytokinins right now. Give it a try.... will probably love it. On Monday, June 14, 2004, at 10:14 AM, kari95135 wrote: > I have seen so many great things about coconut oil, but didn't recall > seeing anything on coconut milk. The other day someone who is > working via biomedical/dietary intervention for her Asperger son, > recommended trying coconut milk. Today I did with my 8 yr old > daughter and she loved it! However she did get carried away with it, > and between cereal and drinking it probably had around 6-8 oz's. > Very shortly after she was in the bathroom with a stomach ache. She > got the runs and then also eject type threw it up too. > Anyone have this kind of response? I noticed that there is 10 g. of > fat per 2 oz so that would mean she got 30g-40g of fat which I could > see totally overloading her fragile system. It almost reminded me of > the thickness of evaporated milk, (which I guess I don't really know > what that is), so wondering if it should just be used for baking > purposes and such? > Sad part was that she loved it, so I'm hoping to be able to figure > something out here. > Thanks, > Kari > > <image.tiff> > > <image.tiff> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2004 Report Share Posted June 14, 2004 , That's a great tip, yes I will definitely follow up there to see if it works. How is coconut milk different than coconut juice? I guess I would have assumed coconut milk comes pretty much straight out of coconuts (there was no added ingredients), but now that I think of it the liquid from a coconut when cracked open seems pretty thin more like watery. Or is the difference just being that from young verses mature coconuts??? Do you think it was a possibly that it was the fat/richness aspect that didn't agree with her system? Kari > Kari, > > I give coconut juice called Buko juice, which is the coconut water > from young coconuts. It is very alkalinizing to the body because it is > high in potassium and contains other alkalinizing minerals like calcium > and magnesium. It is very similar in pH to the blood and is very > similar to cell salts. It also contains cytokinins, which are > protective factors to the cells as they undergo cell mitosis (cell > division). Lots of research is being done on cytokinins right now. > Give it a try.... will probably love it. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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