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Hi All:I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer "non-alcholic"? Or does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the "hops"...how does this work...anyone know?Please advise,Louise Louise Audell art + designlouiseaudell.com (415) 863-1533----- Original Message ----From: des1713 <desiree942@...> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PMSubject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

stock today

> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

way

> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

than

> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

it tastes

> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

local

> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>

> --

> Joe

> http://sanbeiji. com/

>

> "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

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I found Redbridge in a small " health food " store in Anchor Bay, which

is just north of Sea Ranch on Highway 1. As it's the only store in

Anchor Bay, that's all the direction you need.

I haven't tried the beer yet.

H.

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Sent: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 11:58 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted

like

real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

stock today

> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

way

> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

than

> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

it tastes

> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

local

> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>

> --

> Joe

> http://sanbeiji.com/

>

> " The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

of those

> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

little. "

> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

>

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All of the gluten-free beers are alcohol-containing products. I don't know

of any non-alcoholic varieties yet. Redbridge's ABV is 4.8%, and Bard's Tale

ABV is 4.3%.

Most beer is mad The malt extract is basically a sugary syrup. When yeast is

added to any sugar substance - grape juice for wine, apple juice for hard

cider, and malt extract for beer - the the sugars are eaten by the yeast and

the by-product is alcohol.

Normal beer contains gluten because it is made from barley malt extract.

However, there are other gluten-free grains that make suitable malt extracts

for the purposes of brewing. Extract from sorghum grain is quite popular,

and some brewers add rice extract too.

Hops is not withheld or removed from these brews. Hops is used mainly just

for flavoring and it also acts as a natural preservative. All beers contain

some form of hops, including Bard's Tale and Redbridge. However, the flavor

of hops in the Redbridge is much more pronounced than in the Bard's Tale.

--

Joe

http://sanbeiji.com/

" After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is

music. "

--Aldous Huxley

> From: Louise Audell <louise_gd@...>

> Reply- " " < >

> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

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> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

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> Hi All:

>

> I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ? Or does it

> still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how does this

> work...anyone know?

>

> Please advise,

> Louise

>

> Louise Audell

> art + design

> louiseaudell.com

> (415) 863-1533

>

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> I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

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> real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

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>> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

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> stock today

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>> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

>

> way

>

>> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

>

> than

>

>> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

>

> it tastes

>

>> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

>

> local

>

>> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>

>>

>

>> --

>

>> Joe

>

>> http://sanbeiji. com/

>

>>

>

>> " The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

>

> of those

>

>> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

>

> little. "

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>> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

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Gluten status and alcohol status are independent.

Alcohol-free beer can contain gluten. Gluten-free beer can contain

alcohol.

Off-hand, I don't know of any beer that is both alcohol-free and

gluten-free, but I haven't investigated it.

I think it's only recently that any GF beer has been available in the

U.S.

H.

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From: louise_gd@...

Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

Hi All:

I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ? Or

does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how

does this work...anyone know?

Please advise,

Louise

 

Louise Audell

art  +  design

louiseaudell.com

(415) 863-1533

----- Original Message ----

From: des1713 <desiree942@...>

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

stock today

> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

way

> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

than

> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

it tastes

> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

local

> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>

> --

> Joe

> http://sanbeiji. com/

>

> " The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

of those

> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

little. "

> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

>

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This does seem to be the case, and it's been great hearing about the availability of gluten-free beers!How about wine? Are wines off of our gluten-free list, too? Any recommendations? Louise Audell art + designlouiseaudell.com (415) 863-1533----- Original Message ----From: "flatcat9@..." <flatcat9@...> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:59:43 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

Gluten status and alcohol status are independent.

Alcohol-free beer can contain gluten. Gluten-free beer can contain

alcohol.

Off-hand, I don't know of any beer that is both alcohol-free and

gluten-free, but I haven't investigated it.

I think it's only recently that any GF beer has been available in the

U.S.

H.

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From: louise_gd (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

Hi All:

I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer "non-alcholic" ? Or

does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the "hops"...how

does this work...anyone know?

Please advise,

Louise

Louise Audell

art + design

louiseaudell. com

(415) 863-1533

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From: des1713 <desiree942aol (DOT) com>

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

stock today

> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

way

> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

than

> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

it tastes

> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

local

> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>

> --

> Joe

> http://sanbeiji. com/

>

> "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

of those

> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

little."

> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

>

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Wine is fine! (thank goodness!) depends on what you like...my favorites are pinot noir (red) and chardonnay (white). Toasted Head, Meridian, Kendall are all good wines for 10-15 dollars. Good pinots are a bit pricier but worth it... I like Testarossa (Los Gatos winery), Chalone, and anything from Russian River valley. Cheers! JillLouise Audell <louise_gd@...> wrote: This does

seem to be the case, and it's been great hearing about the availability of gluten-free beers!How about wine? Are wines off of our gluten-free list, too? Any recommendations? Louise Audell art + designlouiseaudell.com (415) 863-1533 ----- Original Message ----From: "flatcat9aol" <flatcat9aol> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:59:43 AMSubject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge Gluten status and alcohol status are independent.Alcohol-free beer can contain gluten. Gluten-free beer can contain alcohol.Off-hand, I don't know of any

beer that is both alcohol-free and gluten-free, but I haven't investigated it.I think it's only recently that any GF beer has been available in the U.S.H.-----Original Message-----From: louise_gd (DOT) com Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)Subject: Re: [ ] Re: RedbridgeHi All:I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer "non-alcholic" ? Or does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the "hops"...how does this work...anyone know?Please advise,Louise Louise Audellart + designlouiseaudell. com(415) 863-1533----- Original Message ----From: des1713 <desiree942aol (DOT) com> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PMSubject: [ ] Re: RedbridgeI got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted likereal beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore>> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, instock today> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -way> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to methan> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I meanit tastes> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at alocal> microbrewery. I was impressed!>> --> Joe > http://sanbeiji. com/>> "The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundanceof those> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who havelittle."> -- lin Delano Roosevelt>--------Everyone is raving about the all-new beta.____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. It's here! Your new message!Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar.

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Thank you for your very informative, clear reply.

I drank a bottle of Redbridge tonight. It's been at least three years

since I've had beer, so my taste memory may be off. I was very much a

beer snob back in the day. The pre-CD day. I live in a part of the

country where many artisan beers are made. I used to be able to go

into small breweries and sample the current production.

Redbridge struck me as being a very good beer with real substance. I

wish Anheuser-Busch would bring out varsoriants of Redbridge, but I'm

happy to have anything at all.

In Italy, I tried to get their GF beer, but I was too busy drinking

excellent wine.

My reaction to the sorghum-based beer is a little colored by vivid

childhood memories of watching sorghum cane being ground into sap. A

tethered mule circled a big iron? vat, grinding down the cane. Nearby,

in another vat, sap cooked down to syrup. Big, iridescent flies were

everywhere, but no one seemed concerned by that. The smell was --

strange. " Cane sorghum " syrup was a staple in most households in that

time and place.

Still, I love Redbridge. I think no mules were harmed in the bottling

of this beer.

H.

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From: joe@...

Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:49 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

All of the gluten-free beers are alcohol-containing products.

I don't know

of any non-alcoholic varieties yet. Redbridge's ABV is 4.8%, and

Bard's Tale

ABV is 4.3%.

Most beer is mad The malt extract is basically a sugary syrup. When

yeast is

added to any sugar substance - grape juice for wine, apple juice for

hard

cider, and malt extract for beer - the the sugars are eaten by the

yeast and

the by-product is alcohol.

Normal beer contains gluten because it is made from barley malt

extract.

However, there are other gluten-free grains that make suitable malt

extracts

for the purposes of brewing. Extract from sorghum grain is quite

popular,

and some brewers add rice extract too.

Hops is not withheld or removed from these brews. Hops is used mainly

just

for flavoring and it also acts as a natural preservative. All beers

contain

some form of hops, including Bard's Tale and Redbridge. However, the

flavor

of hops in the Redbridge is much more pronounced than in the Bard's

Tale.

--

Joe

http://sanbeiji.com/

" After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the

inexpressible is

music. "

--Aldous Huxley

> From: Louise Audell <louise_gd@...>

> Reply- " "

< >

> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

> " " < >

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> Hi All:

>

> I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ?

Or does it

> still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how does

this

> work...anyone know?

>

> Please advise,

> Louise

>

> Louise Audell

> art + design

> louiseaudell.com

> (415) 863-1533

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: des1713 <desiree942@...>

>

> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

>

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>

>

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>

>

>

>

>

>

> I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

>

> real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

>

>

>

>

>>

>

>> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

>

> stock today

>

>> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

>

> way

>

>> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

>

> than

>

>> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

>

> it tastes

>

>> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

>

> local

>

>> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>

>>

>

>> --

>

>> Joe

>

>> http://sanbeiji. com/

>

>>

>

>> " The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

>

> of those

>

>> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

>

> little. "

>

>> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

>

>>

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As far as I know, wines never contain gluten. I can't imagine how they

could. Does anyone know of wines that aren't GF? As for

recommendations, just drink what tastes good to you and your budget.

My favorite wine store is Plumpjacks on Fillmore in SF. I'm told that

Trader Joe's has interesting wines at good prices.

We're in wine country -- enjoy yourself!

H.

-----Original Message-----

From: louise_gd@...

Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:07:22 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

This does seem to be the case, and it's been great hearing about the

availability of gluten-free beers!

How about wine? Are wines off of our gluten-free list, too? Any

recommendations?

 

Louise Audell

art  +  design

louiseaudell.com

(415) 863-1533

----- Original Message ----

From: " flatcat9@... " <flatcat9@...>

Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:59:43 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

Gluten status and alcohol status are independent.

Alcohol-free beer can contain gluten. Gluten-free beer can contain

alcohol.

Off-hand, I don't know of any beer that is both alcohol-free and

gluten-free, but I haven't investigated it.

I think it's only recently that any GF beer has been available in the

U.S.

H.

-----Original Message-----

From: louise_gd (DOT) com

Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

Hi All:

I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ? Or

does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how

does this work...anyone know?

Please advise,

Louise

 

Louise Audell

art  +  design

louiseaudell. com

(415) 863-1533

----- Original Message ----

From: des1713 <desiree942aol (DOT) com>

Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

stock today

> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

way

> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

than

> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

it tastes

> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

local

> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>

> --

> Joe

> http://sanbeiji. com/

>

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of those

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Heh -great story about the sorghum.

I also was a big microbrew enthusiast before my diagnosis, and would

literally base my travel around brewpub touring. I kept a log. I even had my

own homebrew pale ale recipe that I'd always do over the new year break. I'm

hoping to recreate that tradition next year as my favorite brew supply shop

(morebeer.com in Concord) has started stocking sorghum extract! :D

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> From: <flatcat9@...>

> Reply- " " < >

> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:37:03 -0500

> " " < >

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> Thank you for your very informative, clear reply.

>

> I drank a bottle of Redbridge tonight. It's been at least three years

> since I've had beer, so my taste memory may be off. I was very much a

> beer snob back in the day. The pre-CD day. I live in a part of the

> country where many artisan beers are made. I used to be able to go

> into small breweries and sample the current production.

>

> Redbridge struck me as being a very good beer with real substance. I

> wish Anheuser-Busch would bring out varsoriants of Redbridge, but I'm

> happy to have anything at all.

>

> In Italy, I tried to get their GF beer, but I was too busy drinking

> excellent wine.

>

> My reaction to the sorghum-based beer is a little colored by vivid

> childhood memories of watching sorghum cane being ground into sap. A

> tethered mule circled a big iron? vat, grinding down the cane. Nearby,

> in another vat, sap cooked down to syrup. Big, iridescent flies were

> everywhere, but no one seemed concerned by that. The smell was --

> strange. " Cane sorghum " syrup was a staple in most households in that

> time and place.

>

> Still, I love Redbridge. I think no mules were harmed in the bottling

> of this beer.

>

> H.

>

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: joe@...

>

> Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:49 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> All of the gluten-free beers are alcohol-containing products.

> I don't know

> of any non-alcoholic varieties yet. Redbridge's ABV is 4.8%, and

> Bard's Tale

> ABV is 4.3%.

>

> Most beer is mad The malt extract is basically a sugary syrup. When

> yeast is

> added to any sugar substance - grape juice for wine, apple juice for

> hard

> cider, and malt extract for beer - the the sugars are eaten by the

> yeast and

> the by-product is alcohol.

>

> Normal beer contains gluten because it is made from barley malt

> extract.

> However, there are other gluten-free grains that make suitable malt

> extracts

> for the purposes of brewing. Extract from sorghum grain is quite

> popular,

> and some brewers add rice extract too.

>

> Hops is not withheld or removed from these brews. Hops is used mainly

> just

> for flavoring and it also acts as a natural preservative. All beers

> contain

> some form of hops, including Bard's Tale and Redbridge. However, the

> flavor

> of hops in the Redbridge is much more pronounced than in the Bard's

> Tale.

>

> --

> Joe

> http://sanbeiji.com/

>

> " After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the

> inexpressible is

> music. "

> --Aldous Huxley

>

>> From: Louise Audell <louise_gd@...>

>> Reply- " "

> < >

>> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

>> " " < >

>> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>>

>> Hi All:

>>

>> I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ?

> Or does it

>> still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how does

> this

>> work...anyone know?

>>

>> Please advise,

>> Louise

>>

>> Louise Audell

>> art + design

>> louiseaudell.com

>> (415) 863-1533

>>

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----

>> From: des1713 <desiree942@...>

>>

>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

>> Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

>>

>> real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>>

>>

>>> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

>>

>> stock today

>>

>>> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

>>

>> way

>>

>>> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

>>

>> than

>>

>>> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

>>

>> it tastes

>>

>>> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

>>

>> local

>>

>>> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>>

>>>

>>

>>> --

>>

>>> Joe

>>

>>> http://sanbeiji. com/

>>

>>>

>>

>>> " The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

>>

>> of those

>>

>>> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

>>

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>>> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

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Almost all wines are GF, but on very rare occasions some wines are stored in

casks that formerly contained a gluten product, or they literally used wheat

flour to line the barrels. I'm pretty confident about California wines - I

stick to buying locally and have never had a problem. It was an entirely

acceptable consolation to switch from being a beer snob to a wine snob after

my diagnosis. ;-)

I have heard that some wine coolers use barley malt, so double-check on

those.

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--Bertholdt Brecht.

> From: <flatcat9@...>

> Reply- " " < >

> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:43:10 -0500

> " " < >

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> As far as I know, wines never contain gluten. I can't imagine how they

> could. Does anyone know of wines that aren't GF? As for

> recommendations, just drink what tastes good to you and your budget.

> My favorite wine store is Plumpjacks on Fillmore in SF. I'm told that

> Trader Joe's has interesting wines at good prices.

>

> We're in wine country -- enjoy yourself!

>

> H.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: louise_gd@...

>

> Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:07:22 -0800 (PST)

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

>

>

> This does seem to be the case, and it's been great hearing about the

> availability of gluten-free beers!

>

> How about wine? Are wines off of our gluten-free list, too? Any

> recommendations?

>  

> Louise Audell

> art  +  design

> louiseaudell.com

> (415) 863-1533

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: " flatcat9@... " <flatcat9@...>

>

> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:59:43 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

>

> Gluten status and alcohol status are independent.

>

> Alcohol-free beer can contain gluten. Gluten-free beer can contain

> alcohol.

>

> Off-hand, I don't know of any beer that is both alcohol-free and

> gluten-free, but I haven't investigated it.

>

> I think it's only recently that any GF beer has been available in the

> U.S.

>

> H.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: louise_gd (DOT) com

>

> Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> Hi All:

>

> I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ? Or

> does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how

> does this work...anyone know?

>

> Please advise,

> Louise

>  

> Louise Audell

> art  +  design

> louiseaudell. com

> (415) 863-1533

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: des1713 <desiree942aol (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

> real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

>

>>

>> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

> stock today

>> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

> way

>> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

> than

>> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

> it tastes

>> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

> local

>> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>>

>> --

>> Joe

>> http://sanbeiji. com/

>>

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> of those

>> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

> little. "

>> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

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Amazing about the use of wheat flour and casks. I can't imagine a

reputable vineyard doing that, but one never knows. At one time, some

low-end Italian wine distributors were found to be diluting red wine

with anything handy, including beef blood.

Do you know anything more specific about which kinds of wineries might

be non-GF?

Wine coolers -- yeah, they're not wine, anyway. They just use wine as

an ingredient. They're not serious.

H.

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Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 7:01 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

Almost all wines are GF, but on very rare occasions some

wines are stored in

casks that formerly contained a gluten product, or they literally used

wheat

flour to line the barrels. I'm pretty confident about California wines

- I

stick to buying locally and have never had a problem. It was an

entirely

acceptable consolation to switch from being a beer snob to a wine snob

after

my diagnosis. ;-)

I have heard that some wine coolers use barley malt, so double-check on

those.

--

Joe

http://sanbeiji.com/

" It is simplicity that is difficult to make. "

--Bertholdt Brecht.

> From: <flatcat9@...>

> Reply- " "

< >

> Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:43:10 -0500

> " " < >

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> As far as I know, wines never contain gluten. I can't imagine how

they

> could. Does anyone know of wines that aren't GF? As for

> recommendations, just drink what tastes good to you and your budget.

> My favorite wine store is Plumpjacks on Fillmore in SF. I'm told that

> Trader Joe's has interesting wines at good prices.

>

> We're in wine country -- enjoy yourself!

>

> H.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: louise_gd@...

>

> Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:07:22 -0800 (PST)

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

>

>

> This does seem to be the case, and it's been great hearing about the

> availability of gluten-free beers!

>

> How about wine? Are wines off of our gluten-free list, too? Any

> recommendations?

>  

> Louise Audell

> art  +  design

> louiseaudell.com

> (415) 863-1533

>

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: " flatcat9@... " <flatcat9@...>

>

> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:59:43 AM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

>

> Gluten status and alcohol status are independent.

>

> Alcohol-free beer can contain gluten. Gluten-free beer can contain

> alcohol.

>

> Off-hand, I don't know of any beer that is both alcohol-free and

> gluten-free, but I haven't investigated it.

>

> I think it's only recently that any GF beer has been available in the

> U.S.

>

> H.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: louise_gd (DOT) com

>

> Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> Hi All:

>

> I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ?

Or

> does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how

> does this work...anyone know?

>

> Please advise,

> Louise

>  

> Louise Audell

> art  +  design

> louiseaudell. com

> (415) 863-1533

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> From: des1713 <desiree942aol (DOT) com>

>

> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

> Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

> real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

>

>

>>

>> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

> stock today

>> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

> way

>> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

> than

>> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

> it tastes

>> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

> local

>> microbrewery. I was impressed!

>>

>> --

>> Joe

>> http://sanbeiji. com/

>>

>> " The test of our progress is not whether we add to the abundance

> of those

>> who have much. It is whether we provide enough to those who have

> little. "

>> -- lin Delano Roosevelt

>>

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I only heard this in a conversation with another celiac, and she

mentioned something about being careful of European wine and vinegar.

Sorry - I have nothing definitive, so I could be wrong about the wheat

flour lining stuff. I just did a scan on Google and no good matches

came up there. The closest thing to a decent citation I could find is

here: http://gfkitchen.server101.com/GFAlcohol.htm#Wine

-Joe

On 1/27/07, flatcat9@... <flatcat9@...> wrote:

> Amazing about the use of wheat flour and casks. I can't imagine a

> reputable vineyard doing that, but one never knows. At one time, some

> low-end Italian wine distributors were found to be diluting red wine

> with anything handy, including beef blood.

>

> Do you know anything more specific about which kinds of wineries might

> be non-GF?

>

> Wine coolers -- yeah, they're not wine, anyway. They just use wine as

> an ingredient. They're not serious.

> H.

>

> -----Original Message-----

> From: joe@...

>

> Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 7:01 PM

> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

>

> Almost all wines are GF, but on very rare occasions some

> wines are stored in

> casks that formerly contained a gluten product, or they literally used

> wheat

> flour to line the barrels. I'm pretty confident about California wines

> - I

> stick to buying locally and have never had a problem. It was an

> entirely

> acceptable consolation to switch from being a beer snob to a wine snob

> after

> my diagnosis. ;-)

>

> I have heard that some wine coolers use barley malt, so double-check on

> those.

>

> --

> Joe

> http://sanbeiji.com/

>

> " It is simplicity that is difficult to make. "

> --Bertholdt Brecht.

>

> > From: <flatcat9@...>

> > Reply- " "

> < >

> > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:43:10 -0500

> > " " < >

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

> >

> > As far as I know, wines never contain gluten. I can't imagine how

> they

> > could. Does anyone know of wines that aren't GF? As for

> > recommendations, just drink what tastes good to you and your budget.

> > My favorite wine store is Plumpjacks on Fillmore in SF. I'm told that

> > Trader Joe's has interesting wines at good prices.

> >

> > We're in wine country -- enjoy yourself!

> >

> > H.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: louise_gd@...

> >

> > Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:07:22 -0800 (PST)

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

> >

> >

> >

> > This does seem to be the case, and it's been great hearing about the

> > availability of gluten-free beers!

> >

> > How about wine? Are wines off of our gluten-free list, too? Any

> > recommendations?

> >

> > Louise Audell

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> > (415) 863-1533

> >

> >

> > ----- Original Message ----

> > From: " flatcat9@... " <flatcat9@...>

> >

> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 11:59:43 AM

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

> >

> >

> > Gluten status and alcohol status are independent.

> >

> > Alcohol-free beer can contain gluten. Gluten-free beer can contain

> > alcohol.

> >

> > Off-hand, I don't know of any beer that is both alcohol-free and

> > gluten-free, but I haven't investigated it.

> >

> > I think it's only recently that any GF beer has been available in the

> > U.S.

> >

> > H.

> >

> > -----Original Message-----

> > From: louise_gd (DOT) com

> >

> > Sent: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 11:09:40 -0800 (PST)

> > Subject: Re: [ ] Re: Redbridge

> >

> > Hi All:

> >

> > I have a silly question...but, is gluten-free beer " non-alcholic " ?

> Or

> > does it still contain the alcohol? Are they removing the " hops " ...how

> > does this work...anyone know?

> >

> > Please advise,

> > Louise

> >

> > Louise Audell

> > art + design

> > louiseaudell. com

> > (415) 863-1533

> >

> > ----- Original Message ----

> > From: des1713 <desiree942aol (DOT) com>

> >

> > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 11:58:23 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Re: Redbridge

> >

> > I got some at WF Mill Valley and it was VERY GOOD -- tasted like

> > real beer to me. They have BArds at Bev Mo in SF on Bayshore

> >

> >

> >>

> >> I found some Redbrige beer, the new one by Anheuser-Busch, in

> > stock today

> >> over a the local Whole Foods in San Ramon. This is excellent beer -

> > way

> >> better than Ramapo Valley Honey Beer and slightly more tasty to me

> > than

> >> Bard's Tale, which itself is pretty good. And by excellent, I mean

> > it tastes

> >> as good a a top-quality craft brew that I'd expect to find at a

> > local

> >> microbrewery. I was impressed!

> >>

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I read on another list that some wineries “seal”

the barrels with a wheat paste. Some use wax, some use really good new

barrels. I have no clue which is which. Or how to find out, but if a wine

causes me pain, I think I’ll jus stay away from that winery.

Connie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of flatcat9@...

Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007

6:43 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re:

Redbridge

As far as I know, wines never contain gluten. I can't imagine how they

could. Does anyone know of wines that aren't GF? As for

recommendations, just drink what tastes good to you and your budget.

My favorite wine store is Plumpjacks on Fillmore in SF. I'm told that

Trader Joe's has interesting wines at good prices.

We're in wine country -- enjoy yourself!

H.

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Either egg whites or gelatin are used in the fining process. After the mad cow disease scare there was discussion by the European wine industry about using wheat gluten as a substitute. I have no idea whether any of the producers did end up making this switch. I believe most continue to use egg whites however I'm wondering if that will go the way of gelatin once the bird flu becomes more prevalent...

On 1/28/07, Connie Hampton <connie@...> wrote:

I read on another list that some wineries "seal"

the barrels with a wheat paste. Some use wax, some use really good new

barrels. I have no clue which is which. Or how to find out, but if a wine

causes me pain, I think I'll jus stay away from that winery.

Connie

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On Behalf Of flatcat9@...

Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007

6:43 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Re:

Redbridge

As far as I know, wines never contain gluten. I can't imagine how they

could. Does anyone know of wines that aren't GF? As for

recommendations, just drink what tastes good to you and your budget.

My favorite wine store is Plumpjacks on Fillmore in SF. I'm told that

Trader Joe's has interesting wines at good prices.

We're in wine country -- enjoy yourself!

H.

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