Re: Re: Are you satisfied?

[Guest guest]

Have you tried calling the 800# for Safeway? They have a complete list of GF items in their stores. They'll send it to you for free. Additionally, I highly recommend signing up for the Clan Newsletters as well as the lists of GF items from groceries to drugs. Each newsletter has a 'mini' list of the latest GF products that are easy to find at any grocery store.

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Skooter,

What items in particular are you missing? Perhaps

we can help you

Grain things (of any sort) really are “fillers”

in a nutritious diet. The nutrient rich foods are naturally gluten free –

animal and vegetable proteins and fruits and vegetables (including the

high carb ones). Grains in general are high in carbs, low in proteins or

vitamins and minerals, but cheap and store well. Grains are a direct

translation of (originally human) energy into wealth – storable energy.

If you look at the history of civilization you can see what that has

brought. Try reading “Guns, Germs and Steel”.

We as a civilization have become dependent

on this cheap, storable “food”, but many cultures did not (although

even these are now being seduced by the multinational “food”

producers).

No, it is not “fair” that high

end grocers don’t stock the GF substitutes, but the profit margin in

groceries is very, very narrow and their waste is high.

Many of us have healthy diets with no

recourse to GF substitutes and use them only as snacks and special occasion

items.

Connie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of skooterlicious

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 11:00

PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Are

you satisfied?

Yes, I can see that as a problem. Unfortunately

snack-foods are the

largest group of items I've found that are certified gluten-free.

It's all well and good, but people can't base a healthy diet on

cookies, crackers and chips

I just really want to find and develop local resources to cater to our

market. I see no reason why I or anyone should have to mail order

their food or drive 50 miles to find a shopping experience that suits

their needs. The stores I've mentioned are high-end markets selling

lots of organics and cater to specialty diets and items, so I see no

reason why gluten-free items cannot be better represented and easily

located. It's just seems they need to see a head count of people

willing to buy product before they take the risk to stock it.

skooter

>

> There's no question that part of this whole thing may include

tweaking the

> way you eat. People who like snack-type foods are definitely at a

disadvantage;

[Guest guest]

I agree with you about the whole pain in the buttness (I just made

that up) of trying to feed myself. I'm tired of driving 40 minutes to

WF and have them be out of key things I went there for.

I just went through this with them with the Redbridge beer. According

to them, they can't keep it on the shelves. Welllllll, then why don't

we put MORE on the shelf??? When I happened to be there when they

stocked, he put three six packs up there. That's all he had. I know

there are more than three celiacs who want a beer. Frustrating.

I've had much more satisfaction getting some gf cookbooks and doing it

myself. I'm still on the quest for a good bread/bagel, but what I'm

making at home is better than anything yet I've overpaid for.

On 7/31/07, skooterlicious <skooterlicious@...> wrote:

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> Yes, I can see that as a problem. Unfortunately snack-foods are the

> largest group of items I've found that are certified gluten-free.

> It's all well and good, but people can't base a healthy diet on

> cookies, crackers and chips

>

> I just really want to find and develop local resources to cater to our

> market. I see no reason why I or anyone should have to mail order

> their food or drive 50 miles to find a shopping experience that suits

> their needs. The stores I've mentioned are high-end markets selling

> lots of organics and cater to specialty diets and items, so I see no

> reason why gluten-free items cannot be better represented and easily

> located. It's just seems they need to see a head count of people

> willing to buy product before they take the risk to stock it.

>

> skooter

>

>

> >

>

> > There's no question that part of this whole thing may include

> tweaking the

> > way you eat. People who like snack-type foods are definitely at a

> disadvantage;

>

>

[Guest guest]

Connie, I agree with you that there is SO much we can eat. And it's

better for us anyway. But sometimes cooking up everything ourselves is

a chore, especially around jobs and kids and life, and it shouldn't be

too much to ask to walk in and get a tasty convenience item.

kimberly

On 8/1/07, Connie Hampton <connie@...> wrote:

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> Skooter,

>

> What items in particular are you missing? Perhaps we can help you

>

>

>

> Grain things (of any sort) really are " fillers " in a nutritious diet. The

> nutrient rich foods are naturally gluten free – animal and vegetable

> proteins and fruits and vegetables (including the high carb ones). Grains

> in general are high in carbs, low in proteins or vitamins and minerals, but

> cheap and store well. Grains are a direct translation of (originally human)

> energy into wealth – storable energy. If you look at the history of

> civilization you can see what that has brought. Try reading " Guns, Germs

> and Steel " .

>

>

>

> We as a civilization have become dependent on this cheap, storable " food " ,

> but many cultures did not (although even these are now being seduced by the

> multinational " food " producers).

>

>

>

> No, it is not " fair " that high end grocers don't stock the GF substitutes,

> but the profit margin in groceries is very, very narrow and their waste is

> high.

>

>

>

> Many of us have healthy diets with no recourse to GF substitutes and use

> them only as snacks and special occasion items.

>

>

>

>

> Connie

>

>

>

> ________________________________

>

>

> From: [mailto: ]

> On Behalf Of skooterlicious

> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 11:00 PM

>

> Subject: [ ] Re: Are you satisfied?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Yes, I can see that as a problem. Unfortunately snack-foods are the

> largest group of items I've found that are certified gluten-free.

> It's all well and good, but people can't base a healthy diet on

> cookies, crackers and chips

>

> I just really want to find and develop local resources to cater to our

> market. I see no reason why I or anyone should have to mail order

> their food or drive 50 miles to find a shopping experience that suits

> their needs. The stores I've mentioned are high-end markets selling

> lots of organics and cater to specialty diets and items, so I see no

> reason why gluten-free items cannot be better represented and easily

> located. It's just seems they need to see a head count of people

> willing to buy product before they take the risk to stock it.

>

> skooter

>

>

> >

>

> > There's no question that part of this whole thing may include

> tweaking the

> > way you eat. People who like snack-type foods are definitely at a

> disadvantage;

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've noticed that all those lists I've asked to have printed out, from

WF, Trader Joe's, Nob Hill, have page after page of *possible* gf

foods, but what they actually have maybe fills half a page if I'm

lucky (except for WF). So I guess I've decided it's easier to just

pick around and see what I find, or ask the manager if I'm looking for

something specific. :/

On 8/1/07, melbatavia@... <melbatavia@...> wrote:

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>

>

>

>

>

> Have you tried calling the 800# for Safeway? They have a complete list of GF

> items in their stores. They'll send it to you for free. Additionally, I

> highly recommend signing up for the Clan Newsletters as well as the

> lists of GF items from groceries to drugs. Each newsletter has a 'mini' list

> of the latest GF products that are easy to find at any grocery store.

>

> Good luck!

>

>

> ________________________________

> Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.

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I have to completely echo everything said! I feel strongly we should be structuring our diets on (preferably local and organic when available/affordable) vegetables, fruits, eggs, dairy, beans, whole grains (quinoa, brown rice, etc) and meat... most of which are naturally gluten-free and all of which are available at even mainstream supermarkets these days. The gluten-free specialty foods tend to be highly processed, sugar-laden and otherwise unhealthy. So while I understand the desire and the novelty of having a choice between different storebought items, I can't say that my needs aren't met by what's available in the Bay Area or where I live now (upstate NY). When i first went gluten-free I was one of those people who bought ANYTHING I COULD FIND *just* because it was gluten-free. I was in " scarcity mode " , thinking I couldn't pass up a gluten-free cookie or loaf of bread because what if I couldn't find it again? After a while I gained a bunch of weight from this mindset and realized it was because of all the GF junk I was eating. So I stopped. And besides what I listed above, here's what I buy that's processed:

*Tinkyada brown rice noodles (available in almost every healthfood store, and similar noodles under a different label at Trader Joe's)*Puffed millet, puffed rice, Nature's Path corn flakes or Perky's Nutty Rice cereal... all except Nutty Rice are available at Berkeley Bowl and every health food store I frequent.

*Amy's frozen GF macaroni and cheese for when I have no energy to cook. Again, readily available.*Whole grain GF crackers ('s Gone Crackers are my favorite). I've found these at multiple stores in the Bay Area, though I'm about to buy a case online to save $$.

*Readymade hummus, when I'm lazy.*Jennie's macaroons when I'm having a sugar craving. I used to buy canisters of these at Berkeley Bowl.I also just bought some kosher turkey bacon.That is more or less IT. Everything else I make from scratch. I bake my own bread, which is far superior to anything storebought. And I structure my meals around naturally GF foods - Largely vegetables and beans and small amounts of kosher meat when I can find it. The Bay Area is also brimming with ethnic markets where you can find GF foods for much cheaper than at a health food store (rice noodles at an Asian market, sorghum flour at an Indian market, etc).

So, I guess I don't really relate to the feeling that the stores that are available don't meet a celiac's needs. If your need is to have GF versions of all the usual junk food and boxed meals and processed ready-to-microwave meals and pastries, I can understand the frustration. But otherwise, it seems to me the Bay Area is one of the easier places in the country to find GF groceries. There are so many GF specialty foods available at Berkeley Bowl, Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Rainbow Grocery... and all the South Bay and Peninsula stores that and other readers have mentioned. I found La Tortilla Company's GF teff wraps/tortillas on the shelf at even mainstream grocery stores in the Bay if I remember right, for instance. And if that's not enough, you can save money by buying in bulk online through Amazon.com or one of the many online groceries.I miss all the kick-ass farmers' markets in the Bay Area. I swear I ate mostly from those markets, with the only addition being grains and meat that I had to buy elsewhere!

I applaud efforts to start a co-op, if nothing else then a casual thing where people can share cases of popular GF foods. I think that would help out a lot of people in the area, I know I had the idea of starting one when I lived there. Go for it!

The other thing I would recommend is urging groceries to find a way to either create a GF section OR to create some kind of labelling for their shelves that lets people know which items are GF. Some Trader Joe's stores do that (the ones in Tucson, for instance)... but I never saw that in the East Bay.

Isaiah-- Gluten-Free By The Bayhttp://glutenfreebay.blogspot.com

[Guest guest]

I do see your point, Skeeter. And,

as a chef, you already know that none of the gluten free flours make very good

bread with the “holding power” of regular wheat breads – they

tend more toward 100% rye – heavy, tough and “lumpy”.

It really is only the very freshest of GF breads that begin to approach what we

were raised to expect in bread. And then it is only the “whitest”

and nutrition-less of the GF breads that can get there. And exception is Grindstone

Bakery bread which can be purchased at Berkeley Bowl among others – this is

like a pumpernickel.

I’d like to suggest that you give up

loaf bread all together for at least 6 months and try the many varieties of

flat breads, injera, dosas, tortillas, some of which are available in the

grocery stores, the rest are a piece of (gluten free pan-) cake to make.

The archives of this list are full of

suggestions.

Isaiah wrote this back in January:

I shop at:

-Berkeley Bowl

- They have the cheapest organic produce and they have some GF products and

baking supplies, too (Namaste, Pamela's, Cherrybrook, etc). I buy bulk beans

and rice there since those containers are used only for beans or rice so the

risk of CC is low - but I stay away from the bulk GF flours because there are

just too many opportunities for CC there.

-Trader Joe's in Emeryville

-Piedmont Grocery (very expensive but they have some nice stuff so if I'm in

the neighborhood I'll pick up a few things - They have I Can Eat That pizza

crusts, Food For Life Bread, Glutino, Bob's Red Mill, Namaste, Pamela's,

Mariposa Bakery products and others)

-Whole Foods on Telegraph near Ashby

-The Grand Lake

(Oakland) and

Downtown Berkeley farmers' markets. You can buy gluten-free tamales at Grand Lake

which are super yummy! Some of them are dairy-free, too.

-Two fruit and veggie markets on 10th

Street in Chinatown

between and Webster. Cheap produce and Asian groceries.

-In a pinch, Longs Drugs on Shattuck

Ave in Berkeley and

the huge Longs on 51st Street

in Oakland have

a number of gluten-free grocery products, including Bob's Red Mill (51st St), Mrs

Leepers and Tinkyada (Shattuck).

I never set foot in Safeway or Albertsons. If I'm desperate, Andronicos has

some stuff - They are just very pricey.

Isaiah

Connie

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of skooterlicious

Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007

4:04 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: Are

you satisfied?

Thanks for the great response Isaiah, and everyone, I

really do

appreciate it.

Definitely not, I am not looking for prepackaged, processed or junk

foods. I just don't eat them at all. I'm a former chef and have

always cooked nearly all of my food - I eat very well. Maybe in my

frustration I've come off sounding as though nothing is available, as

that's far from my intent. I suppose that's my " mourning period "

voicing itself.

On a more realistic note, I just can't see why with all of these great

products, the large number of people that have this disorder, and the

buying power of these specialty stores, why a consumer is forced to

drive long distances wasting resources, shopping at dozens of stores

or having to mail order food items, or need to pay $9 for a loaf of

rock hard bread that's barely edible and questionably nutritious. And

who has time in a busy life to hunt everything down AND make

everything from scratch? I certainly don't and I suspect others don't

either. Is it so freakin much to expect to be able to pop into my

local Andronicos and find more than one lump of frozen gluten free

bread? Choices and options without added stress and frustration is

just as important to diet as eating correctly. I just want to find

some freakin english muffins, is that so wrong?

And I definitely like the idea about forming coops or some such type

of consumer organization. As mentioned, with thin profit margins, I

seriously don't think stores are going to respond and open more shelf

space until they can have some demonstrated assurance that there will

be someone there to buy it. If I drive across town, or into another

county, to find a few items to give me reasonable variety, what

motivation is there for the store down the street to stock anything

for me? None. I think some tighter, more organized groups can help

bridge the gap.

skooter

>

> If your need is to have GF versions

> of all the usual junk food and boxed meals and processed

ready-to-microwave

> meals and pastries, I can understand the frustration. But otherwise, it

> seems to me the Bay Area is one of the easier places in the country

to find

> GF groceries. There are so many GF specialty foods available ....

[Guest guest]

I think it would be wonderful if there were more gluten free options at local grocers. I attended a local support group a couple of months ago, and was very surprised to learn that people generally consider the bay area to be one of the least celiac friendly areas in the country. Given the huge variety of foods available in the area, this goes against my intuition, but I've even heard it claimed that it's easier to find gluten free food in the midwest.

I'm self employed, so I've been able to take the time to cook a variety of foods from scratch, and that's made the transition away from wheat much easier. But I whole heartedly agree that no matter how much you like to cook, sometimes you really just want to kick up your feet, tear off a wrapper, and pop a pre-made meal into the microwave.

Even more than gluten free specialty foods, I would like to see clearer labeling from major manufacturers about the gluten content of their foods. But that's well beyond the scope of this thread, so I think it's time to call it a night.

On 8/1/07, skooterlicious <skooterlicious@...> wrote:

Thanks for the great response Isaiah, and everyone, I really do

appreciate it.

Definitely not, I am not looking for prepackaged, processed or junk

foods. I just don't eat them at all. I'm a former chef and have

always cooked nearly all of my food - I eat very well. Maybe in my

frustration I've come off sounding as though nothing is available, as

that's far from my intent. I suppose that's my " mourning period "

voicing itself.

On a more realistic note, I just can't see why with all of these great

products, the large number of people that have this disorder, and the

buying power of these specialty stores, why a consumer is forced to

drive long distances wasting resources, shopping at dozens of stores

or having to mail order food items, or need to pay $9 for a loaf of

rock hard bread that's barely edible and questionably nutritious. And

who has time in a busy life to hunt everything down AND make

everything from scratch? I certainly don't and I suspect others don't

either. Is it so freakin much to expect to be able to pop into my

local Andronicos and find more than one lump of frozen gluten free

bread? Choices and options without added stress and frustration is

just as important to diet as eating correctly. I just want to find

some freakin english muffins, is that so wrong?

And I definitely like the idea about forming coops or some such type

of consumer organization. As mentioned, with thin profit margins, I

seriously don't think stores are going to respond and open more shelf

space until they can have some demonstrated assurance that there will

be someone there to buy it. If I drive across town, or into another

county, to find a few items to give me reasonable variety, what

motivation is there for the store down the street to stock anything

for me? None. I think some tighter, more organized groups can help

bridge the gap.

skooter

>

> If your need is to have GF versions

> of all the usual junk food and boxed meals and processed

ready-to-microwave

> meals and pastries, I can understand the frustration. But otherwise, it

> seems to me the Bay Area is one of the easier places in the country

to find

> GF groceries. There are so many GF specialty foods available ....

[Guest guest]

Yes, the situation gets better every year, and with every celiac who

asks that foods be stocked.

And the brown rice tortillas have a ways to go. They taste ok, but you

can't fold your filling in nice and tight. There's no give to them, so

it all falls out.

> I'm not sure what I buy that's been " re-formulated " to be GF besides the

> brown rice tortillas. (Aha! Redbridge!)

> But I haven't eaten processed food in over 2 yrs, due to celiac-related

> complications.

>

> Prior to that, I ate all sorts of gf products. And if u think it's bad NOW,

> u should've seen the meager selection 5 yrs ago!!

>

> To answer the question, yes I am satisfied.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Now HERE'S something I'd love to get involved in. It seems so simple

to put a label on, especially for those tricky hidden glutens we're

not expecting.

> Even more than gluten free specialty foods, I would like to see clearer

> labeling from major manufacturers about the gluten content of their foods.

> But that's well beyond the scope of this thread, so I think it's time to

> call it a night.

>

>

>

>

> On 8/1/07, skooterlicious <skooterlicious@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks for the great response Isaiah, and everyone, I really do

> > appreciate it.

> >

> > Definitely not, I am not looking for prepackaged, processed or junk

> > foods. I just don't eat them at all. I'm a former chef and have

> > always cooked nearly all of my food - I eat very well. Maybe in my

> > frustration I've come off sounding as though nothing is available, as

> > that's far from my intent. I suppose that's my " mourning period "

> > voicing itself.

> >

> > On a more realistic note, I just can't see why with all of these great

> > products, the large number of people that have this disorder, and the

> > buying power of these specialty stores, why a consumer is forced to

> > drive long distances wasting resources, shopping at dozens of stores

> > or having to mail order food items, or need to pay $9 for a loaf of

> > rock hard bread that's barely edible and questionably nutritious. And

> > who has time in a busy life to hunt everything down AND make

> > everything from scratch? I certainly don't and I suspect others don't

> > either. Is it so freakin much to expect to be able to pop into my

> > local Andronicos and find more than one lump of frozen gluten free

> > bread? Choices and options without added stress and frustration is

> > just as important to diet as eating correctly. I just want to find

> > some freakin english muffins, is that so wrong?

> >

> > And I definitely like the idea about forming coops or some such type

> > of consumer organization. As mentioned, with thin profit margins, I

> > seriously don't think stores are going to respond and open more shelf

> > space until they can have some demonstrated assurance that there will

> > be someone there to buy it. If I drive across town, or into another

> > county, to find a few items to give me reasonable variety, what

> > motivation is there for the store down the street to stock anything

> > for me? None. I think some tighter, more organized groups can help

> > bridge the gap.

> >

> > skooter

> >

> >

> > >

> > > If your need is to have GF versions

> > > of all the usual junk food and boxed meals and processed

> > ready-to-microwave

> > > meals and pastries, I can understand the frustration. But otherwise, it

> > > seems to me the Bay Area is one of the easier places in the country

> > to find

> > > GF groceries. There are so many GF specialty foods available ....

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello all, Been on vacation and missed the role call. But my name is Christian and I've been a member of the group for about a year now. I'm 30 and a Landscape Architect born and raised in the Santa Cruz area currently living in s Valley. I occasionally chime in but mostly just read everyones respective entries. I have to say all in all it could be worse. I was diagnosed about a year and a half ago and sense then things have definitely improved. I love my beer and we now have three that are actually palatable. (Redbridge is my favorite) I can go to my local grocery store and by most things I need, including beer. The only thing I need to go to Whole Foods for is there bread. I can't tolerate the Food for Life breads that are more commonly available. In the complex closest to my house, I have the s Valley market, a good Sushi restaurant where I've figured out what's safe and a new Cambodian Restaurant, Jia Tellas?

(I think that's the name) that is planning on removing all gluten from their sauces. The owner is very open and receptive to my suggestions. They carry gluten free beer and the former Chief of Police, who has Celiac Disease, is a regular customer. It is likely wishful thinking, but I've been following Alba Therapeutics development of a drug for Celiac Disease. Things look to be going well in product development and I hold out hope that in the next five years or so, we'll be able to take a pill and eat what we want. All that being said, I agree there is power in numbers. The more organized we are, the more widely available these products will be. I think the success of Redbridge is very telling. A large corporation like Anheiser Busch went out on a limb to formulate a beer specifically for us. From everything I've seen and heard, it seems to be selling very well. This can only encourage other companies to give it a try. That's about all I've got, but good topic, keep

it up. Christian Pratt <kimberlymp1@...> wrote: Yes, the situation gets better every year, and with every celiac whoasks that foods be stocked.And the brown rice tortillas have a ways to go. They taste ok, but youcan't fold your filling in nice and tight. There's no give to them, soit all falls out.> I'm not sure what I buy that's been "re-formulated" to be GF besides the> brown rice tortillas. (Aha! Redbridge!)> But I

haven't eaten processed food in over 2 yrs, due to celiac-related> complications.>> Prior to that, I ate all sorts of gf products. And if u think it's bad NOW,> u should've seen the meager selection 5 yrs ago!!>> To answer the question, yes I am satisfied.>>

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The front of some of Amy's boxes reads No Gluten Ingredient, which is a bit different from Gluten-Free. I recall that within the past year some people felt that Amy's lack of a gluten-free dedicated facility was causing them problems. I eat the No Gluten Ingredients products with no apparent problems, but not everyone wants to take that risk.

Amy's makes a wide range of meals to suit different types of users.

H.

In a message dated 8/3/07 12:53:53 PM, seamaiden399@... writes:

There's always Amy's frozen meals! They're always labeled clearly on

the front re: gluten. Whenever I'm feeling lazy I pop one of those in

the microwave and am never disappointed.

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THANK DOE THE SOFTENING BROWN RICE TORTILLA TRICK...IT WORKS. LS Rosie----- Original Message ----From: HiDee HoMan <hideehoman@...> Sent: Friday, August 3, 2007 4:22:37 AMSubject: [ ] Re: Are you satisfied?

There's a trick to the brown rice tortillas to make

them more usable.

Wet & microwave.

I hold the more pebbly side (well, *usually* there is

one) under running water just for a second, moving it

around to make sure all of it gets hit.

That'll be the 'down side' in the microwave.

The other side I barely get wet, kind of 'painting' it

w/ fingers that I've held under the running water.

On a paper towel, I microwave for 20sec. (But it took

45sec in one friends micro)

They come out extremely pliable, and do tightly wrap

my delicious smoked salmon, avocado, red pepper, red

onion wrap, which also often has hummus spread on the

tort, like a condiment. Mmmmmm MMM!!

I'm new here and surfing on a phone, and unfortunely

the site doesn't come out looking very good, tho a

great many other sites do.

I'll add a full entry to the Roll Call at some point,

but for now here's a brief look.

I'm tom, gf for almost 4 yrs, wheat-free for a couple

yrs prior.

Moving back to the South Bay very soon, where I'd

spent most of my adult life, after 1.5yrs away.

I'm also currently off dairy, yeast, soy, corn,

sugar(even most fruit) ... . . . LOL seeing it in

writing is worse than living it!!

Probably missed a couple. Been off most of it for

>2yrs.

Finally got off soy in early June, and my brain just

"woke up", to a magnitude I never would've even dared

dream.

Strangely, this soy elimination test, was NOT

definitive in 3 days, or 5 or 7 or 9.

None of my other tests took so long to be sure, and

I'd also tested soy 3x before this.

It wasn't until days 10-12 that I became sure I was

FAR better off soy.

I had never heard of such a thing.

(Oops!! Did I claim this would be 'brief'?? Hehehehe

my bad!)

HI EVERYONE!! <tom waves>

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HI Tom, We are off all of the same, plus more. It is really tuff! We finally went to an allergist named Dr. Marinkovitch a couple of weeks ago after hearing numbers of good reports about his practice. The sad part is that Dr. Marinkovitch became very ill and will probably never return to practice said the nurse, but the nurse walked us through the results of our blood test, which showed we have allergies to mold. So besides the GF, DF, SF, etc we had already had in effect, we were hit with this! It is really hard on us, I had to hire help, eat foods within 24 hours or freeze. It was recommended we shop every day and possibly not use organic produce (I have a very hard time with this one). We gave away my son's turtle and crayfish and continue to work hard to become healthy. Anyhow, what prompted you to eliminate all of these foods? IF you do not

mind me asking? HiDee HoMan <hideehoman@...> wrote: There's a trick to the brown rice tortillas to makethem more usable.Wet & microwave.I hold the more pebbly side (well, *usually* there isone) under running water just for a second, moving itaround to make sure all of it gets hit.That'll be the 'down side' in the microwave.The other side I barely get wet, kind of 'painting' itw/ fingers that I've held under the

running water.On a paper towel, I microwave for 20sec. (But it took45sec in one friends micro)They come out extremely pliable, and do tightly wrapmy delicious smoked salmon, avocado, red pepper, redonion wrap, which also often has hummus spread on thetort, like a condiment. Mmmmmm MMM!!I'm new here and surfing on a phone, and unfortunelythe site doesn't come out looking very good, tho agreat many other sites do.I'll add a full entry to the Roll Call at some point,but for now here's a brief look.I'm tom, gf for almost 4 yrs, wheat-free for a coupleyrs prior.Moving back to the South Bay very soon, where I'dspent most of my adult life, after 1.5yrs away.I'm also currently off dairy, yeast, soy, corn,sugar(even most fruit) ... . . . LOL seeing it inwriting is worse than living it!!Probably missed a couple. Been off most of it for>2yrs.Finally got off soy in early June,

and my brain just"woke up", to a magnitude I never would've even dareddream. :)Strangely, this soy elimination test, was NOTdefinitive in 3 days, or 5 or 7 or 9.None of my other tests took so long to be sure, andI'd also tested soy 3x before this.It wasn't until days 10-12 that I became sure I wasFAR better off soy.I had never heard of such a thing.(Oops!! Did I claim this would be 'brief'?? Hehehehemy bad!)HI EVERYONE!! <tom waves>__________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. http://tv./

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Do you think you should get a second opinion before taking such radical steps?

These aren't requirements I've ever heard mentioned here in just this way. I'd hoping others in the group, with a wider range of experience than mine, will contribute their knowledge.

Why do you need to hire help?

Eating foods within 24 hours? Is this for any particular foods -- like meats -- or food in general? Much of our food, other than the very most perishable items, is in the supply chain for quite a long time.

If you're considering shopping every day, perhaps you'd want to find out when various foods are delivered to your grocery store. For example, I know that fishermen bring fish to my market on Tuesdays, it's cut up that night, and it goes up for sale on Wednesdays. So, I never buy fish there on Monday or Tuesday. (I'm lucky enough to live within sight of fishing boats!)

Treatment for food allergies is a field that can sometimes involve debatable policies. I'd make sure, really sure, that the information the nurse is giving you is absolutely first-rate before jumping in head first, making a huge commitment of energy and budget.

I congratulate you for your enthusiasm for making your family healthier. I just hope you don't go down any blind alleys along the way, wasting that commendable enthusiasm.

Best wishes.

H.

In a message dated 8/4/07 10:55:20 AM, hiddenwillows@... writes:

HI Tom,

 

We are off all of the same, plus more.  It is really tuff!  We finally went to an allergist named Dr. Marinkovitch a couple of weeks ago after hearing numbers of good reports about his practice.  The sad part is that Dr. Marinkovitch became very ill and will probably never return to practice said the nurse, but the nurse walked us through the results of our blood test, which showed we have allergies to mold.  So besides the GF, DF, SF, etc we had already had in effect, we were hit with this!  It is really hard on us, I had to hire help, eat foods within 24 hours or freeze.  It was recommended we shop every day and possibly not use organic produce (I have a very hard time with this one).  We gave away my son's turtle and crayfish and continue to work hard to become healthy. 

 

Anyhow, what prompted you to eliminate all of these foods?  IF you do not mind me asking?

 

 

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On 8/3/07, HiDee HoMan <hideehoman@...> wrote:

> They come out extremely pliable, and do tightly wrap

> my delicious smoked salmon, avocado, red pepper, red

> onion wrap, which also often has hummus spread on the

> tort, like a condiment. Mmmmmm MMM!!

Before going gluten-free, my all-time favorite food was the carne

asada burrito, loaded with guacamole, cheese, and pico de gallo. Thank

you for posting those instructions - I am hopeful I can get this

working again. I'm going to give this another whirl!

> I'm also currently off dairy, yeast, soy, corn,

> sugar(even most fruit) ... . . . LOL seeing it in

> writing is worse than living it!!

> Probably missed a couple. Been off most of it for

> >2yrs.

> Finally got off soy in early June, and my brain just

> " woke up " , to a magnitude I never would've even dared

> dream.

I've been avoiding soy almost completely the past few months, and do

notice major improvements. Small amounts don't seem to bug me - just

gave up drinking my daily soy milk cappuccinos at Peet's every morning

and have been sticking with plain old espresso, and that alone seems

to have made a giant difference. Same with refined sugars - I avoid

and feel far better for it. Fruits are no problem here - I just try to

avoid OD-ing on sweets such as cookies, cake, or Coca-Cola. Don't miss

it one bit.

Cheers,

Joe

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I have heard very very good things about Dr. Marinkovitch and his practice, and this is why I went with them. I believe what the nurse has the right information as she has been there for years and besides all of the information I have read about this. My son has been diagnosed with Tourette's syndrome and everything I have read about this syndrome shows that this is where the problem is. These children seem to have an overload of yeast in the body and once that yeast is not fed so many foods that keep it thriving, it stops growing. They told me that by removing these foods, his problem should resolve and then in another 4 to 6 months we could add these foods back in one at a time. The reason for me hiring help is the following: Single mom working approx. 60 hours per week have a 2 year old that keeps me busy Everything,

(incl. salad dressing etc.) my son and family eat has to be prepared at this time I want to spend time having fun with my kids and not constantly cooking myself To tell you the truth, in regard to opinions by medical Dr.s, I would rather not. The only thing they suggested was to give him medicine after medicine which caused so many problems. When we took out the gluten, his teacher was amazed at his huge behavior change, but that has not stopped the tics. It is my goal to make my son healthy and what this means to me is becoming a bit radical at this point. Thanks for taking the time to give your input! I really appreciate it. Any food has to be used within 24 hours or it starts to produce molds and any right now would not be good when I am trying to help him get

healthy.flatcat9@... wrote: Do you think you should get a second opinion before taking such radical steps?These aren't requirements I've ever heard mentioned here in just this way. I'd hoping others in the group, with a wider range of experience than mine, will contribute their knowledge.Why do you need to hire help? Eating foods within 24 hours? Is this for any particular foods -- like meats -- or food in

general? Much of our food, other than the very most perishable items, is in the supply chain for quite a long time. If you're considering shopping every day, perhaps you'd want to find out when various foods are delivered to your grocery store. For example, I know that fishermen bring fish to my market on Tuesdays, it's cut up that night, and it goes up for sale on Wednesdays. So, I never buy fish there on Monday or Tuesday. (I'm lucky enough to live within sight of fishing boats!) Treatment for food allergies is a field that can sometimes involve debatable policies. I'd make sure, really sure, that the information the nurse is giving you is absolutely first-rate before jumping in head first, making a huge commitment of energy and budget.I congratulate you for your enthusiasm for making your family healthier. I just hope you don't go down any blind alleys along the way, wasting that commendable enthusiasm.Best

wishes.H.In a message dated 8/4/07 10:55:20 AM, hiddenwillows writes: HI Tom, We are off all of the same, plus more. It is really tuff! We finally went to an allergist named Dr. Marinkovitch a couple of weeks ago after hearing numbers of good reports about his practice. The sad part is that Dr. Marinkovitch became very ill and will probably never return to practice said the nurse, but the nurse walked us through the results of our blood test, which showed we have allergies to mold. So besides the GF, DF, SF, etc we had already had in effect, we were hit with this! It is really hard on us, I had to hire help, eat foods within 24 hours or freeze. It was recommended we shop every day and

possibly not use organic produce (I have a very hard time with this one). We gave away my son's turtle and crayfish and continue to work hard to become healthy. Anyhow, what prompted you to eliminate all of these foods? IF you do not mind me asking? **************************************Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour