RE: Re:Are Gluten Free Oats Really Safe?

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Very interesting to find a video about CD on YouTube. I had

never thought to check YouTube for videos about CD! There are certainly

more than I would ever have guessed; now all I need it time to watch them.

There is a very interesting article on oats on Celiac.com (see

below for link and excerpt) that says that some varieties of oats appear to

cause more of a reaction than others, but that all create more of a reaction

than rice. I think the type of testing (in vitro) involves taking a

culture of intestinal tissue (in this case from someone with CD), keeping it

alive, and seeing how it reacts when exposed to various proteins. I wish

they had been more specific about how much activity the oats created compared

to wheat.

I always recommend caution in introducing oats; first making

sure you are healthy and recovered from the effects of the gluten exposure

(find out what healthy feels like), establish your GF diet, then introduce oats

carefully, making sure not to eat any other new foods at the same time and

carefully noting any changes; then take them out again, noting any

changes, before deciding to add them permanently to your diet. Like

says in the article, everyone needs to decide for themselves what works for

them.

Pam Newbury

http://www.celiac.com/articles/21520/1/Effects-of-Various-Kinds-of-Oats-on-Celiac-Disease/Page1.html

A team of Italian and Australian doctors conduced in vitro tests

on three different kinds of oats. They wanted to see if certain kinds of oats

showed any kind of toxicity in people with celiac disease. These tests showed

that the avenins

of the Italian variety Astra and the Australian variety Mortlook showed a much

higher activity than those of the Australian Lampton variety, while Rice of the

Roma variety showed no activity. gliadin which is found in wheat and rye showed

the expectedly high levels of activity.

From:

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Behalf Of Victor Dolcourt

Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:43 PM

Subject: [ ] Re:Are Gluten Free Oats Really Safe?

Mark brings up a very interesting question that was covered

in a YouTube video from the UCSD medical center.

The GE in the first section of the video brought up the fact

that Oats are one step more closely related Wheat/Rye/Barley that other

grains that are also free from the offending prolamines/peptides (we need to

get more precise than " gluten " here). Accordingly, the presenter said

that probably 1 celiac in 100 could not tolerate oats. Mark may be that 1% of

0.8%. (Congratulations, Mark.)

The term " gluten free " is also probably a

misnomer. I believe that we have to consider any manufactured food as having

the possibility of having contamination from the offending peptide (33mer if

you want to be precise). But the Codex sets a upper limit which is considered

by most experts to be safe for celiacs. All of this is pretty subjective. In

fact, much of medicine is subjective, but it works pretty well. It all gets

down to a matter of personal choice. For some people McCann's is going to work.

For others it is oats that are ordered from specialty grocers, and for a few of

us - no oats at all.

Vic-Sunnyvle

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[Guest guest]

I think this is the one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2LvQmoF1Y

From:

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Behalf Of Mark Morley

Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:14 AM

Subject: [ ] Re:Are Gluten Free Oats Really Safe?

Hi

Vic,

Would

you possibly have a link to the YouTube video from the UCSD medical center.

Thanks,

Mark