Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Well that's good to know... I live in Berkeley and had been thinking of trying this, but I couldn't get my arms around the idea that they could avoid cross contamination when presumably they are throwing other (regular) pizzas in the same oven, and potenitally even dusting flour around the whole place when making dough (if they makde dough on site). Does anyone know what practices they use? Did you tell them you both got sick? They might not even be aware of the problem. On Feb 18, 2008 11:14 AM, I.T. <isaiah.benjamin@...> wrote: Maya,I am sad to say that when a bunch of us from this list got togetherfor a gluten-free dinner at Pizza Rustica, myself and my friend bothgot very sick afterwards.I.B.-- Gluten-Free Bay http://www.glutenfreebay.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 Hi All, Just wanted to let you know that we provide Pizza Rustica with the pizza crusts they are offering. (The crusts are the same that we offer in our bakeshop.) I just put a call in to Rustica that this issue popped up, spoke with the owner and found out this ... - they do NOT recommend the pizza for folks who are severely allergic because the restaurant uses high gluten flour in their own dough and therefore gluten is " in the air " . For those who are less sensitive, they offer the crusts and take all the precautions they can given the shop they have. For those folks ... - the pizza is put baked on a clean metal pan and the slicer is cleaned before slicing - the pizza is never put on a surface with flour - the pizza crust is made offsite in our dedicated gluten-free facility. - customers can speak with a manager upon placing an order to alert the kitchen of their dietary needs. Hope this helps and be well, Patti Mariposa Baking 510.595.0955 > > > Maya, > > > > I am sad to say that when a bunch of us from this list got together > > for a gluten-free dinner at Pizza Rustica, myself and my friend both > > got very sick afterwards. > > > > I.B. > > > > -- > > Gluten-Free Bay > > http://www.glutenfreebay.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 I thought it was odd that a regular pizza place would serve GF…doesn’t it take something like 30 hours for “gluten dust” to settle, Pam – did you tell me that? From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of pfurey Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Pizza Rustica Hi All, Just wanted to let you know that we provide Pizza Rustica with the pizza crusts they are offering. (The crusts are the same that we offer in our bakeshop.) I just put a call in to Rustica that this issue popped up, spoke with the owner and found out this ... - they do NOT recommend the pizza for folks who are severely allergic because the restaurant uses high gluten flour in their own dough and therefore gluten is " in the air " . For those who are less sensitive, they offer the crusts and take all the precautions they can given the shop they have. For those folks ... - the pizza is put baked on a clean metal pan and the slicer is cleaned before slicing - the pizza is never put on a surface with flour - the pizza crust is made offsite in our dedicated gluten-free facility. - customers can speak with a manager upon placing an order to alert the kitchen of their dietary needs. Hope this helps and be well, Patti Mariposa Baking 510.595.0955 > > Well that's good to know... I live in Berkeley and had been thinking of > trying this, but I couldn't get my arms around the idea that they could > avoid cross contamination when presumably they are throwing other (regular) > pizzas in the same oven, and potenitally even dusting flour around the whole > place when making dough (if they makde dough on site). Does anyone know what > practices they use? > > Did you tell them you both got sick? They might not even be aware of the > problem. > > On Feb 18, 2008 11:14 AM, I.T. <isaiah.benjamin@...> wrote: > > > Maya, > > > > I am sad to say that when a bunch of us from this list got together > > for a gluten-free dinner at Pizza Rustica, myself and my friend both > > got very sick afterwards. > > > > I.B. > > > > -- > > Gluten-Free Bay > > http://www.glutenfreebay.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 It takes 36 hours for flour to settle out of the air; when it settles, it will contaminate whatever it settles on. It could be that just being in the restaurant soon after they have prepared the regular pizza dough could result in breathing in enough flour to cause a reaction. Some people have reactions to the smell of burned gluten (a strong possibility in a pizza place). Also, the flour could be settling on plates, pans, etc. I have never been there, but if the kitchen is open to the restaurant this would increase the likelihood that the air in the restaurant contains significant gluten. I agree that it is wonderful for restaurants to accommodate celiacs despite the challenges. I think a lot depends on what actually happens in the kitchen. If the pizza toppings are sitting in open bins in the same area where the pizza dough is being prepared (especially if it is done so in a manner that causes the flour to fly and become airborne; i.e., mixers, pizza tossing, flopping the dough in big pans of flour), then I think the opportunities for contamination are increased. If the topping bins are stored away or covered when not in use, contamination is less likely. It would be interesting to know if anyone has had a reaction from pizza that has been prepared there and taken out to eat at home versus pizza eaten at the restaurant; if so, it would seem the contamination would be from the kitchen rather than breathed gluten. Either way, if there is contamination enough for several celiacs to have reactions, celiacs who eat there regularly might want to investigate their practices. Take a tour of the kitchen and ask questions about how things are done. Another avenue to consider is if the contamination is occasional (accidental contact; wrong pan used; spilled flour in the GF area; poorly-cleaned tools) or chronic (something that is always or often occurring, such as airborne gluten settling on food or other surfaces). I really hate to discourage any restaurant from serving GF foods (especially pizza!), but on the other hand, silent damage isn’t a happy picture either. This is a really tough call for pizza-loving celiacs; as always, this is an individual decision, not a one-answer-fits-all. Pam From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Wallace Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:23 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Re: Pizza Rustica I thought it was odd that a regular pizza place would serve GF…doesn’t it take something like 30 hours for “gluten dust” to settle, Pam – did you tell me that? From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of pfurey Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 4:54 PM Subject: [ ] Re: Pizza Rustica Hi All, Just wanted to let you know that we provide Pizza Rustica with the pizza crusts they are offering. (The crusts are the same that we offer in our bakeshop.) I just put a call in to Rustica that this issue popped up, spoke with the owner and found out this ... - they do NOT recommend the pizza for folks who are severely allergic because the restaurant uses high gluten flour in their own dough and therefore gluten is " in the air " . For those who are less sensitive, they offer the crusts and take all the precautions they can given the shop they have. For those folks ... - the pizza is put baked on a clean metal pan and the slicer is cleaned before slicing - the pizza is never put on a surface with flour - the pizza crust is made offsite in our dedicated gluten-free facility. - customers can speak with a manager upon placing an order to alert the kitchen of their dietary needs. Hope this helps and be well, Patti Mariposa Baking 510.595.0955 > > > Maya, > > > > I am sad to say that when a bunch of us from this list got together > > for a gluten-free dinner at Pizza Rustica, myself and my friend both > > got very sick afterwards. > > > > I.B. > > > > -- > > Gluten-Free Bay > > http://www.glutenfreebay.com > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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